cowh logic?.......

newswatcher wrote:

knothead wrote:

Ironsights wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:Reality strikes again. In the types of wars we are fighting now enemy lines are non-existent. The truth is that many women have for years actually been in combat and have died in combat zones so this ruling is just catching up with reality on the ground.

Tammy Duckworth, the double amputee was a Blackhawk helicopter pilot. I think most people would consider this job to be on the front line. The change, as I understand it was to acknowledge what was really going on and to allow women officers to progress up through the ranks, basically getting credit on paper for what they are already doing.

I understand i am diverging from the argument over someone using the cowh acronym still but back to this point. Actually it is something very different women have been getting credit for this and being let into the services such as pilots and being in combat zones, that is not what Obama's appointee changed. He said basically lets ignore the standards that we have set for our military Infantry and our Special Forces Teams and lower them so that a woman can enter them. If they don't want to lower them so women can enter them then they have to explain to the sec of def why not. (which by the way the Marine core is doing). The fact of the matter is unlike flying which is another issue entirely.

Whether you want to believe it or not there are still combat infantry zones. These ppl have to quickly with all of their gear get from point A to point B in order to save not only their own lives but the lives of their fellow soldiers, Marines, Airmen, Seaman, whatever the case may be. For many, many years we have looked at the question of allowing women in the infantry units but never, never have they been able to meet the same requirements as males. Not going to touch whether they do that in other fields or not because that is another hot button issue. But in infantry no amount of equipment could possibly compensate for the physical requirements that they have to be meet to save lives.

And lowering our standards for special forces is an even greater mistake that will get many more civilians killed as well.

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I could be wrong but after listening and reading the 'standards' for physical prowess have not been lowered. The change simply allows females who can cut it will be allowed to be in infantry for example but they must be able to meet the current standards.

To be lectured...by some in this group for referring to the cowh as the cowh is laughable...If the same civility and respect was given to this cowh as it was to President George W Bush by some then there would be an argument...never called the cowh mentally unstable...terrorist....war criminal...stupid...war monger...etc., and yet now cowh is disrespectful?...

W_T_M wrote:
He's a punk.

newswatcher wrote:

knothead wrote:

Ironsights wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:Reality strikes again. In the types of wars we are fighting now enemy lines are non-existent. The truth is that many women have for years actually been in combat and have died in combat zones so this ruling is just catching up with reality on the ground.

Tammy Duckworth, the double amputee was a Blackhawk helicopter pilot. I think most people would consider this job to be on the front line. The change, as I understand it was to acknowledge what was really going on and to allow women officers to progress up through the ranks, basically getting credit on paper for what they are already doing.

I understand i am diverging from the argument over someone using the cowh acronym still but back to this point. Actually it is something very different women have been getting credit for this and being let into the services such as pilots and being in combat zones, that is not what Obama's appointee changed. He said basically lets ignore the standards that we have set for our military Infantry and our Special Forces Teams and lower them so that a woman can enter them. If they don't want to lower them so women can enter them then they have to explain to the sec of def why not. (which by the way the Marine core is doing). The fact of the matter is unlike flying which is another issue entirely.

Whether you want to believe it or not there are still combat infantry zones. These ppl have to quickly with all of their gear get from point A to point B in order to save not only their own lives but the lives of their fellow soldiers, Marines, Airmen, Seaman, whatever the case may be. For many, many years we have looked at the question of allowing women in the infantry units but never, never have they been able to meet the same requirements as males. Not going to touch whether they do that in other fields or not because that is another hot button issue. But in infantry no amount of equipment could possibly compensate for the physical requirements that they have to be meet to save lives.

And lowering our standards for special forces is an even greater mistake that will get many more civilians killed as well.

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I could be wrong but after listening and reading the 'standards' for physical prowess have not been lowered. The change simply allows females who can cut it will be allowed to be in infantry for example but they must be able to meet the current standards.

To be lectured...by some in this group for referring to the cowh as the cowh is laughable...If the same civility and respect was given to this cowh as it was to President George W Bush by some then there would be an argument...never called the cowh mentally unstable...terrorist....war criminal...stupid...war monger...etc., and yet now cowh is disrespectful?...