Without guns, how would crazy people murder innocent victims?

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Grandma-Beating-Pipe-Harlem-Arrest-Death-184261421.html

The mentally disturbed grandson in the living room with a lead pipe.(clue)

Ghandi wrote:http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Grandma-Beating-Pipe-Harlem-Arrest-Death-184261421.html

The mentally disturbed grandson in the living room with a lead pipe.(clue)

Rocks, logs, drowning, burning, pipes, whips, chains, knives, axes, ropes etc, etc, etc.

Guangshan County, Henan, China



On 14 December 2012 between 7 and 8 a.m. local time, a 36-year-old villager identified as Min Yongjun stabbed 24 people, including 23 children and an elderly woman, in a knife attack at Chenpeng Village Primary School Wenshu Township, Guangshan County, Henan province, China. The children targeted by the knifeman are thought likely to be between six and eleven years of age. The attack occurred as the children were arriving for classes probably at 8:00 or maybe even 9:00.

The incident has followed other school attacks in China since 2010 by mentally disturbed men involved in personal disputes or unhappy with the rapid changes occurring in Chinese society. Security guards had been posted at schools across China, with all schools to have a security guard by 2013.

Due to strict gun control laws in China, knives are usually the weapon of choice in violent crimes. The attack on the children occurred at the entrance of the school. Min first targeted the elderly woman, aged 85, who lived next to the school. He went to her house at around 7 a.m., stole one of her knives and attacked her head. The woman's daughter said an argument had occurred. At around 7:40 a.m., Min pursued the children with the knife he had stolen from the elderly woman's house and slashed them, many on their heads. Xinhua reported that some of the children had had fingers or ears cut off in the knife attack.

Slicef18 wrote:

Ghandi wrote:http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Grandma-Beating-Pipe-Harlem-Arrest-Death-184261421.html

The mentally disturbed grandson in the living room with a lead pipe.(clue)

Rocks, logs, drowning, burning, pipes, whips, chains, knives, axes, ropes etc, etc, etc.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Can't we expedite the process and use an AK47 or mini14...a weapon more suitable for killing large amounts of folk at a quicker pace...?

That other stuff is way too up close and personal, plus it's sorta time consuming. I want something where I can be more detached and make it feel like a video game.

bghlaw0371 wrote: Guangshan County, Henan, China



On 14 December 2012 between 7 and 8 a.m. local time, a 36-year-old villager identified as Min Yongjun stabbed 24 people, including 23 children and an elderly woman, in a knife attack at Chenpeng Village Primary School Wenshu Township, Guangshan County, Henan province, China. The children targeted by the knifeman are thought likely to be between six and eleven years of age. The attack occurred as the children were arriving for classes probably at 8:00 or maybe even 9:00.

The incident has followed other school attacks in China since 2010 by mentally disturbed men involved in personal disputes or unhappy with the rapid changes occurring in Chinese society. Security guards had been posted at schools across China, with all schools to have a security guard by 2013.

Due to strict gun control laws in China, knives are usually the weapon of choice in violent crimes. The attack on the children occurred at the entrance of the school. Min first targeted the elderly woman, aged 85, who lived next to the school. He went to her house at around 7 a.m., stole one of her knives and attacked her head. The woman's daughter said an argument had occurred. At around 7:40 a.m., Min pursued the children with the knife he had stolen from the elderly woman's house and slashed them, many on their heads. Xinhua reported that some of the children had had fingers or ears cut off in the knife attack.

That reads like something that won't pass the snopes test, bghlaw0371.
Where did you get it from?

W_T_M wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:

Ghandi wrote:http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Grandma-Beating-Pipe-Harlem-Arrest-Death-184261421.html

The mentally disturbed grandson in the living room with a lead pipe.(clue)

Rocks, logs, drowning, burning, pipes, whips, chains, knives, axes, ropes etc, etc, etc.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Can't we expedite the process and use an AK47 or mini14...a weapon more suitable for killing large amounts of folk at a quicker pace...?

That other stuff is way too up close and personal, plus it's sorta time consuming. I want something where I can be more detached and make it feel like a video game.

wtm,

Can I ask a favor of you?
Please don't reply to any of my posts or threads.
In return I won't reply to any of yours.
Nothing personal.

Thanks in advance.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/8059161.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/world/asia/man-stabs-22-children-in-china.html?_r=3&

http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-man-slashes-22-children-near-china-school-20121214,0,6383015.story

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/china-deploys-security-guards-in-schools-to-avoid-bloodbath-repeat_100421452.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121218/as-china-school-stabbing/

W_T_M wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:

Ghandi wrote:http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Grandma-Beating-Pipe-Harlem-Arrest-Death-184261421.html

The mentally disturbed grandson in the living room with a lead pipe.(clue)

Rocks, logs, drowning, burning, pipes, whips, chains, knives, axes, ropes etc, etc, etc.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Can't we expedite the process and use an AK47 or mini14...a weapon more suitable for killing large amounts of folk at a quicker pace...?

That other stuff is way too up close and personal, plus it's sorta time consuming. I want something where I can be more detached and make it feel like a video game.

One hit to a person's head with a pipe is pretty sufficient. It takes a just as much time as a bullet hitting you there as well. Same result though.

bghlaw0371 wrote:http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/8059161.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/world/asia/man-stabs-22-children-in-china.html?_r=3&

http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-man-slashes-22-children-near-china-school-20121214,0,6383015.story

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/china-deploys-security-guards-in-schools-to-avoid-bloodbath-repeat_100421452.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121218/as-china-school-stabbing/

Bob, I didn't actually witness the event. I'd say don't believe it.

Just let it go.



昨天早上,河南光山县文殊乡一名男子持刀在该乡陈棚村完全小学门口砍伤学生22人,民众1人,警方在村干部的协助下,迅速将犯罪嫌疑人闵应军控制。据最新的消息,犯罪嫌疑人闵应军今年36岁,是文殊乡当地人。据初步调查,犯罪嫌疑人闵应军患有精神病,间歇性发作。 这两天,世界并不平静,发生了两场惨绝人寰的针对儿童的杀戮惨案:中国36岁男子闵应军持刀砍伤河南光山县文殊乡陈棚村完全小学22名学生和美国20岁男子亚当持枪杀死康州纽敦县桑迪胡克小学28人,让我们为这些孩子

Gunz wrote:

So far....446 school-aged children have been shot in Chicago in 2012.

Joanimaroni wrote:

Gunz wrote:

So far....446 school-aged children have been shot in Chicago in 2012.

Bob is going to need a link.

http://crimeinchicago.blogspot.com/2012/12/connecticut-doesnt-have-shit-on-chicago.html



NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOT IN CHICAGO IN 2011
2,217

NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOT IN CHICAGO AS OF Dec. 11, 2012

2,597



446 School Age Children Shot in Chicago so Far This Year
THE LIST OF SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN SHOT IN 2012




18 year old- 110

17 year old- 99

16 year old- 89

15 year old- 62

14 year old- 39

13 year old- 21

12 year old- 10

11 year old- 2

10 year old- 3

9 year old- 1

7 year old- 3

6 year old- 2

5 year old- 1

4 year old- 1

3 year old- 1

1 year old- 2

UPDATE: For those asking for a "source", obtaining the source or proof you require will take some work on your part, but I'll point you in the right direction. First on the right hand side of this blog you will find two links, one is "A MURDER" the other is "A SHOOTING". You can click on them and find the ones involving children and if you don't trust CIC you can Google each heading for proof.
UPDATE: 3 more school age children shot in Chicago over the past day. Total school age children shot in Chicago now stands at 449
The two girls, 16, shot in Pilsen

Joanimaroni wrote:http://crimeinchicago.blogspot.com/2012/12/connecticut-doesnt-have-shit-on-chicago.html



NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOT IN CHICAGO IN 2011
2,217

NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOT IN CHICAGO AS OF Dec. 11, 2012

2,597



446 School Age Children Shot in Chicago so Far This Year
THE LIST OF SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN SHOT IN 2012




18 year old- 110

17 year old- 99

16 year old- 89

15 year old- 62

14 year old- 39

13 year old- 21

12 year old- 10

11 year old- 2

10 year old- 3

9 year old- 1

7 year old- 3

6 year old- 2

5 year old- 1

4 year old- 1

3 year old- 1

1 year old- 2

UPDATE: For those asking for a "source", obtaining the source or proof you require will take some work on your part, but I'll point you in the right direction. First on the right hand side of this blog you will find two links, one is "A MURDER" the other is "A SHOOTING". You can click on them and find the ones involving children and if you don't trust CIC you can Google each heading for proof.
UPDATE: 3 more school age children shot in Chicago over the past day. Total school age children shot in Chicago now stands at 449
The two girls, 16, shot in Pilsen

As a parent and a gun owner, I would not allow my children to be raised in chicago. Would you?

No way and I do not own a gun.

Joanimaroni wrote:No way and I do not own a gun.

You should own a gun. Even if you never use it.
Better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Think of it like AAA when you lock your keys in your car.
Just a safety precaution.

You got that right. I would move to New York.
New York — 515
Chicago — 431
Detroit — 344
Philadelphia — 324
Los Angeles — 297
New Orleans — 200
Houston — 198
Baltimore — 196
Dallas — 133
Memphis — 117
Phoenix — 116
St. Louis — 113
Washington D.C. — 108
Kansas City, Mo. — 108
Oakland, Calif. — 104

hallmarkgrad wrote:You got that right. I would move to New York.
New York — 515
Chicago — 431
Detroit — 344
Philadelphia — 324
Los Angeles — 297
New Orleans — 200
Houston — 198
Baltimore — 196
Dallas — 133
Memphis — 117
Phoenix — 116
St. Louis — 113
Washington D.C. — 108
Kansas City, Mo. — 108
Oakland, Calif. — 104

Once half a homey outlaws guns, these cities will be much safer. Right?

Ghandi wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:No way and I do not own a gun.

You should own a gun. Even if you never use it.
Better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Think of it like AAA when you lock your keys in your car.
Just a safety precaution.

I had a critter come through the doggie-door one night....he climbed into the dog's food bin....scared the hell out of me. I called the neighbor and he was at my house with a gun 1 minute later...

I do want a BB gun.. Something like this....

Most Dangerous Cities: United States cities with the highest per capita murder rate:

City:

Murder Rate per 100,000:

New Orleans

25.1

Richmond, Virginia

20.1

Birmingham, Alabama

16.3

Memphis, Tennessee

15.9

Miami, Florida

14.7

Baltimore, Maryland

14.2

Detroit

12.5

…



By comparison:



New York City

9.3

Atlanta

8.6

National Average:

7.4







- Source: Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Reports: Crime in the United States, 1997.

the 6 most dangerou

Ghandi wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:No way and I do not own a gun.

You should own a gun. Even if you never use it.
Better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Think of it like AAA when you lock your keys in your car.
Just a safety precaution.

Thats awful advice ghandi. Anyone who buys a gun should practice with it often. The ones who buy one and throw it in the bedside table drawer "just in case" are the ones that have it taken away from them and killed with it.

bghlaw0371 wrote:http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/8059161.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/world/asia/man-stabs-22-children-in-china.html?_r=3&

http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-man-slashes-22-children-near-china-school-20121214,0,6383015.story

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/china-deploys-security-guards-in-schools-to-avoid-bloodbath-repeat_100421452.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121218/as-china-school-stabbing/

well I'll be damned!

Gunz wrote:

Again I say, every president has killed children at some time in their term. Perhaps the worst was Truman who ordered "fat man" and "little boy".

Slicef18 wrote:

Gunz wrote:

Again I say, every president has killed children at some time in their term. Perhaps the worst was Truman who ordered "fat man" and "little boy".

yes, but every president didnt try to ban guns. Hence the hipocracy in the poster