markle wrote something in a post on the politics forum.

He wrote this...

"Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers. Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States, and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom. Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. and 457 percent higher in Norway. The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher."

So that got me to googling with the search string "u.s. vs other countries health care".

I immediately got web pages which say the U.S. ranks way down the list in a comparison to other countries in health care results. And I discovered that New Zealand has the lowest per-capita health care cost of all the modern countries (1/3 that of the U.S.). So I then searched and found this page.
It makes for interesting reading for all us cunts and fags...

http://www.enz.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26248

Thanks for the link Bob, I had not seen that one in my research on moving to NZ. Looking for a place to retire and NZ has been discussed many times.

alecto wrote:Thanks for the link Bob, I had not seen that one in my research on moving to NZ. Looking for a place to retire and NZ has been discussed many times.

Hope you go soon like yesterday and don't look back cause nobody will be missing you.

Dreamsglore wrote:
Hope you go soon like yesterday and don't look back cause nobody will be missing you.

What was that word that got you so wound up again, Hmmm help me out here.

alecto wrote:

Dreamsglore wrote:
Hope you go soon like yesterday and don't look back cause nobody will be missing you.

What was that word that got you so wound up again, Hmmm help me out here.

I wasn't wound up about cause I consider the source-other people were.

Bob wrote "It makes for interesting reading for all us cunts and fags..." Now that was funny! I almost spit out my coffee.

ButtMan wrote:He wrote this...

"Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers. Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States, and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom. Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. and 457 percent higher in Norway. The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher."

So that got me to googling with the search string "u.s. vs other countries health care".

I immediately got web pages which say the U.S. ranks way down the list in a comparison to other countries in health care results. And I discovered that New Zealand has the lowest per-capita health care cost of all the modern countries (1/3 that of the U.S.). So I then searched and found this page.
It makes for interesting reading for all us cunts and fags...

http://www.enz.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26248

I believe that the reason the Republicans in the Congress are so vehemently against Obamacare is obvious. These Congressmen/women are selling out the country by taking the bribes that they call PAC money and Campaign Contributions from the Corporate Monsters of the Health Industry so they can pay for the TV ads they have to have in order to convince people to vote for them. Its a vicious circle.
I'm sure Democrats also accept this kind of money but it no where near as much.

ButtMan wrote:He wrote this...

"Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers. Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States, and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom. Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. and 457 percent higher in Norway. The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher."

So that got me to googling with the search string "u.s. vs other countries health care".

I immediately got web pages which say the U.S. ranks way down the list in a comparison to other countries in health care results. And I discovered that New Zealand has the lowest per-capita health care cost of all the modern countries (1/3 that of the U.S.). So I then searched and found this page.
It makes for interesting reading for all us cunts and fags...

http://www.enz.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26248

Why do you have to use obscenities? Does that make you feel good or something?



Why would you want to further publicize your mistakes?

I posted FACTS and you posted...a link to a FORUM with personal STORIES. Amusing if nothing else.

Keep up the good work.

Markle wrote:

ButtMan wrote:He wrote this...

"Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers. Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States, and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom. Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. and 457 percent higher in Norway. The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher."

So that got me to googling with the search string "u.s. vs other countries health care".

I immediately got web pages which say the U.S. ranks way down the list in a comparison to other countries in health care results. And I discovered that New Zealand has the lowest per-capita health care cost of all the modern countries (1/3 that of the U.S.). So I then searched and found this page.
It makes for interesting reading for all us cunts and fags...

http://www.enz.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26248

Why do you have to use obscenities? Does that make you feel good or something?



Why would you want to further publicize your mistakes?

I posted FACTS and you posted...a link to a FORUM with personal STORIES. Amusing if nothing else.

Keep up the good work.

Bob is right, Markle, why do you find so important to resist?

othershoe1030 wrote:Well Markle here's some stats from the CIA fact book. I don't think it would be considered a blog or anything but real data. In this case it is about life expectancy in various countries. The US ranks #50
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

Not what my source states. Mine only includes members of the United Nations. Their information is more easily available but, regardless....

The OECD said U.S. life expectancy of 78.2 years ranked 28th - just behind Chile's and well below the average of 79.5 years among member nations.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065548/U-S-ranks-28th-life-expectancy-pay-MOST-health-care.html#ixzz1zXFapN4I

I'll bet you want to blame...HEALTH CARE. Let me help you. Wasn't it the famous broadcaster Paul Harvey who said "and now...the REST of the story"?

In the US a live birth is any infant which takes a breath, has a heart beat or moves. Forty percent of infant deaths take place within the first 24 hours of life. Many of the countries, which rank above us, use a different definition of "live birth". They don't consider a live birth unless it SURVIVES the first 24 hours. Others above us have a minimum weight or length for a "live birth". If the infant was below those criteria, and the infant dies a week later, well, it was not a live birth.

Same again with race, we don't know why blacks have far more premature births than whites but they do and thus a higher mortality rate.

A homogeneous nation is comprised of citizens that vast majority of whom are of one nationality and race. Your post compares the U.S. which is the most mixed race, mixed nationality country in the world with homogeneous nations.

Today the average lifespan in the U.S. is 78.2 years.

For example, Japan has the highest life expectancy at 82.7 years. They have a vastly different diet and life style. The majority of the Hawaiian population is Asian. What is the Life Expectancy in Hawaii, 81.7 years. What is the life expectancy of Norway and Sweden? 80.2 and 80.9 respectively. The vast majority of the population of Minnesota are of Scandinavian decent. Life expectancy of Minnesota? 80.5 years.

Thanks!

merkle,

My mother had a hospice nurse who had worked about 15 years as a nurse in Canada before moving to America and working as an American nurse for about ten years.
I asked her "which health care system do you think is better, Canada or America?"
She said "Canada".

I totally dismiss her opinion out of hand. That's because all she did is live in both countries and work in the health care systems of both countries. But the real expertise comes from googling for links. Googlers are the experts I rely on the most.

ButtMan wrote:merkle,

My mother had a hospice nurse who had worked about 15 years as a nurse in Canada before moving to America and working as an American nurse for about ten years.
I asked her "which health care system do you think is better, Canada or America?"
She said "Canada".

I totally dismiss her opinion out of hand. That's because all she did is live in both countries and work in the health care systems of both countries. But the real expertise comes from googling for links. Googlers are the experts I rely on the most.

"My mommy said so!"

Awww...you just can't make these things up! And no, anecdotal evidence is worthless.

On the other hand. These are FACTS.


Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2011 report
Type: Research Studies
Date Published: December 12, 2011

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that waiting times for elective medical treatment have increased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 Canadian provinces report a total waiting time of 19.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of elective treatment. At 104 percent longer than it was in 1993, this is the longest total wait time recorded since the Fraser Institute began measuring wait times in Canada.

Wait times between 2010 and 2011 increased in both the segment between referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist (rising to 9.5 weeks from 8.9 weeks in 2010), and the segment between a consultation with a specialist and receipt of treatment (rising to 9.5 weeks from 9.3 weeks in 2010). In fact, physicians themselves believe that Canadians wait nearly 3 weeks longer than what they consider is clinically “reasonable” for elective treatment after an appointment with a specialist. There is, however, a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. While Ontario reports the shortest total wait in 2011 (14.3 weeks); Prince Edward Island reports the longest at 43.9 weeks. The same is true of variations among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and plastic surgery (41.6 weeks), while those waiting for medical oncology begin treatment in 4.2 weeks.

It is estimated that, across all 10 provinces, in 2011 people are waiting for an estimated 941,321 procedures. This means that, assuming that each person waits for only one procedure, 2.8 percent of Canadians are waiting for treatment. Importantly, physicians report that only about 9.4 percent of their patients are on a waiting list because they requested a delay or postponement. The results of this year’s survey indicate that despite high levels of health expenditure and provincial wait time strategies, it is clear that patients in Canada are waiting too long to receive treatment

[In the United States that would equal 8.6 MILLION PATIENTS.]

Population of Canada 34.4 million

Population of U.S. 308 million

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/research-news/display.aspx?id=2147484001


PDF file of the entire study
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploadedFiles/fraser-ca/Content/research-news/research/publications/waiting-your-turn-2011.pdf

At least they drummed up a lot of business for Hospice.