gatorfan wrote:zsomething wrote:Yep, inflation's bad. Too bad Trump did such a lousy fucking job handling the pandemic and destroyed America's trade partnerships or we probably wouldn't have all this trouble.
LOL. "Whataboutism" at its finest. But when you can't carry the Placeholder Presidents water anymore.....I keep forgetting NOTHING is ever a liberals fault, even when it is. Bunch of meat puppets.
No "whataboutism" involved. "Whataboutism" is introducing a side issue. I'm not introducing a side issue -- Trump's mishandling of the pandemic is literally the main thing that created the situation. He was too childish to understand the problem to begin with so he (literally) hoped it would "just go away," and when he saw that wasn't happening he was too vain to admit he'd screwed anything up so he just tried to babble his way out with bullshit. Which seems to be all Republicans do now that they've gotten a good look at how fuck-ass stuuuuupid and controllable their base actually is.
He wrecked the economy by not only not taking preventative measures early, he actually worked against those measures, to the point where his cult are hesitant to take a vaccine during a pandemic.
And it's pretty hard to deny anymore that Trump destroyed our trade relationships, which are slow to rebuild because he taught our former partners that they could work around us. They formed new partnerships and, once established, those are hard to just turn back on. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2021/05/20/trumps-tariffs-were-much-more-damaging-than-thought/?sh=1a7b70fb65bd and https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/06/trump-trade-deficit-426805 We're no longer on the strong footing we were before Trump's pulsating ego decided he was real-real-smart at everything and fucked around, so we're having to pay more and having a harder time getting enough supply to meet demand. That's because other countries are sending their stuff to the new markets they formed when Trump made us a less attractive partner. Biden's trying to change that, but trade relationships are hard things to re-jigger when they've been re-established.
Fact is, Biden hasn't been in office long enough for any of his economic policies to be making any kind of huge impact for good or ill. Even the good job market numbers are an inevitable part of getting more control over the pandemic than it is over economic policies. So, what exactly do you want to fault Biden for, Mr. Calling-Me-A-Meat-Puppet? You gonna fault him for taking stronger action to cure the pandemic? Because getting a handle on the pandemic is the main cause for the inflation. With jobs re-opening, due to COVID cases going down due to vaccination efforts (despite Trump cultists trying to sabotage those, AND the economy), people have more money to spend and demand is going up... but the supply's going down because we haven't produced as much and our imports cost more because Trump fucked that up. Gas prices went up -- which affects everything else -- because demand for that went up now that we're not in as much of a lockdown. Basic economics.
O' course, he could've just let the pandemic run rampant. That would keep inflation down... but it'd also keep job numbers and wages increases low, too, so you're gonna get one bad thing or another. I'd rather pay a little more for chicken for a few months than rack up another million or so dead, myself, but that's just me.
Now, I guess you could fault Biden some for importing more oil than we export, instead of exporting it like Trump was doing for a while, but if you know anything about oil production and basic strategy then you know there's a reason for that. Trump was trying to increase domestic production, because Trump (A) doesn't have any vision beyond making money regardless of the effect it has on the country, and (B) didn't mind leaving America helpless against Russia, because he wanted Putin to "like him." Making America an oil exporter was a foolish move, because we simply do not have that kind of natural resources in any sustainable way.
The United States has about enough oil to keep us running for five years if we didn't import any. And then... we're fucked. The Saudis have around a century of it. If we ended up in a war, and our foreign supplies were cut off, we'd have around 5 years... and that's already not a great situation, so it'd be really pretty dumb to be using that up and selling it off just for some short-term profit. Russia was excited to see us doing it, because they've beat people that way before. That's what stopped Hitler -- he got held off at Stalingrad and couldn't get to the Russian oil fields and his war machine simply dried up. Trump was playing right into that.
So, what would you rather have -- slightly cheaper gas prices now, or keep a stronger defense and have more bargaining power on the world stage?
I'm fine with having a "liberal" -- if that's what you really want to call Biden -- be responsible for anything he's actually responsible for. Fer instance, I think the border situation is lousy and that's something the Biden administration could and should be doing a better job on. But if you want to be honest about causality for the inflation, then that, honestly, is far, far more due to Trump's fucking up than anything Biden's done. What Biden's done is restart the economy... and, because supply didn't keep up with demand because it was slower to restart, we're going to have inflation for a while. It'll catch up and then you'll have to find something else to bitch about (knowing you I'm sure you will, big ol' bitchy-ass bitch that you are! ) but "whataboutism"? Nah, not even close.