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Russia Offered Bounties for Dead U.S. Troops in Afghanistan: Reports

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Floridatexan

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A Russian spy unit secretly offered bounties last year to Taliban-linked militants for the killing of U.S. coalition forces in Afghanistan, including American troops, the New York Times reported Friday. President Trump was briefed on the intelligence and the U.S. developed a range of possible responses to the significant Russian escalation, including diplomatic efforts and new sanctions, but the White House has not authorized any of them, according to U.S. intelligence officials who spoke with the Times. (The officials didn’t offer any explanation as to why.)

The intelligence officials believe that militants did collect some of the bounty money after completing successful operations against coalition forces, but it’s not yet clear if any of the deaths of the 20 American servicemembers who were killed in combat in Afghanistan last year are linked to the Russian operation. The Washington Post added in its own subsequent report that “it was not immediately clear whether the militants approached by Russia as part of the initiative had succeeded in killing Americans or allied forces.”

The National Security Council discussed the intelligence during an interagency meeting at the White House in March, but the Trump administration did not brief U.S. allies about it until this week.

Neither the Times nor Post reported anything about what President Trump’s views are on the matter, but he has notoriously dismissed the conclusions of the U.S. intelligence community regarding Russia in the past. According to the Post, the alleged Russian operation “has generated an intense debate within the Trump administration about how best to respond to a troubling new tactic” in light of Trump’s ongoing stance toward the country.


The Kremlin has purportedly begun backing the Taliban in recent years as part of its efforts to destabilize adversaries like the U.S., despite having declared the Islamist militant group a terrorist organization in 2003 — but it had been considered low-level support up to now. Per the Times:

Some officials have theorized that the Russians may be seeking revenge on NATO forces for a 2018 battle in Syria in which the American military killed several hundred pro-Syrian forces, including numerous Russian mercenaries, as they advanced on an American outpost. Officials have also suggested that the Russians may have been trying to derail peace talks to keep the United States bogged down in Afghanistan. But the motivation remains murky.

The officials briefed on the matter said the government had assessed the operation to be the handiwork of Unit 29155, an arm of Russia’s military intelligence agency, known widely as the G.R.U. The unit is linked to the March 2018 nerve agent poisoning in Salisbury, England, of Sergei Skripal, a former G.R.U. officer who had worked for British intelligence and then defected, and his daughter. Western intelligence officials say the unit, which has operated for more than a decade, has been charged by the Kremlin with carrying out a campaign to destabilize the West through subversion, sabotage and assassination.

G.R.U., of course, is the same Russian intelligence organization which, though two cyber-units, worked to interfere in the 2016 U.S. president election. Russia did so both to boost overall political discord in the U.S. as well as to help elect President Trump — who has since repeatedly taken a soft approach toward the Kremlin, and who seems to trust and genuinely admire Russia’s strongman leader, Vladimir Putin.

For more than a year, Trump and his administration have tried to officially and finally end the nearly 19-year U.S. war in Afghanistan, and in February the U.S. and the Taliban signed an agreement to withdraw U.S. forces from the country by April 2021. It was during this peace process that Russia allegedly offered to pay for the deaths of coalition forces.

Also on Friday, CNN reported that the administration is nearing a decision to reduce the number of U.S. troops in the Afghanistan from 8,600 to 4,500, despite a recent intensification of Taliban attacks on the U.S.-backed Afghan government, which announced on Monday that the previous week had been its deadliest of the war — with the Taliban carrying out 422 separate attacks across 32 provinces.

The Trump administration has already, ahead of schedule, reduced U.S. troop levels in accordance with its agreement with the Taliban (to 8,600 in July.) Removing another 4,000 troops would significantly reduce the U.S. military’s ability to conduct operations inside Afghanistan, and the rapid withdrawal has gone against the wishes of some U.S. military commanders — who have said that the Taliban is not keeping up its end of the agreement. Nonetheless, CNN reports that Trump is likely to support the new reduction, noting that “one U.S. official familiar with the discussions said they believe the President would agree to the 4,500 figure because it would mean there would be fewer troops than when President Barack Obama left office, allowing Trump to declare a victory on the campaign trail.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/russia-offered-militants-money-to-target-u-s-troops-report.html

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Wow, this is really going to send the people who were upset about Benghazi into a rage at Trump! Wink

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


New Lincoln Project Ad 'Bounty' Shows Whose Troops Trump Stands By and It's Not America's

"Kayleigh McEnany put out a press release earlier today saying that neither Donald Trump nor Mike Pence was briefed on the fact that Vladimir Putin offered to pay and did pay members of the Afghan militia a bounty to kill American troops. So take your pick, we either have a White House that lies to the American people and they’re lying through their teeth right now about what they know, or we have a White House which is so utterly incompetent that the most sizzling piece of intelligence to ever come down the pike gets lost in the shuffle.

At least the LIncoln Project is on top of it. I really like the ending..."





https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/27/1956463/-New-Lincoln-Project-Ad-Bounty-Shows-Whose-Troops-Trump-Stands-By-and-It-s-Not-America-s?utm_campaign=trending

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Trump and Pence are lying their asses off about being briefed on this Ransomgate. Meanwhile, Trump has been kissing up to Putin, calling him repeatedly, never mentioning anything about it, and trying to get Putin back in the G7.



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Trump retweets a "white power" video.

Trump claims he "didn't know" about something like Russia putting bounties on our troops, which amounts to a proxy war.

I wanna see anybody who still tries to defend this bastard. All that's left of his base is absolute human garbage.

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PkrBum

PkrBum

#FakeNews uncorroborated by our intelligence and denied by other actors. Don't y'all ever get tired of being lied to?

Report: Iran pays $1,000 for each U.S. soldier killed by the Taliban

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39014669/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/t/report-iran-pays-each-us-soldier-killed-taliban/

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https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1277753855900516352


Watching conservatives claiming, "Well, Russia says they didn't do it!" is getting really amusing. Laughing They're a desperate bunch of jokes.

They elected the worst, most treasonous piece of crap they possibly could have elected and now they're embarrassed about how lousy their judgement is and are trying to find any way out of having to admit it. But, everybody knows. Smile

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"These reports originated with the troops on the ground. So when you say you don't trust this, that they're lying, what you're saying is that the SEALs and Delta that are over there are lying."

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