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So, if Trump refuses to do his job anymore, will anybody ever notice?

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bigdog



The cry baby in chief says he can't work and be investigated at the same time. Bill Clinton could talk to the leader of Russia on the phone, eat a pizza, and have Monica Lewinsky do him a favor all at the same time, or so rumor has it.

I hope Trump does nothing else for the rest of his term in office. He'll be doing us all a big favor. He can leave the immigrants on the border alone, stop enticing the Iranians to war, stop enforcing the tariffs, all that would be just fine. So Nancy should just keep on investigating until January of 2021.
Until then, Donald says it's just too hard to actually be both president and investigated. Poor baby

Richard Nixon signed some bills into law on the same day he resigned.

Donald Trump ain't no Richard Nixon and he sure ain't no Bill Clinton.

Telstar

Telstar

bigdog wrote:The cry baby in chief says he can't work and be investigated at the same time. Bill Clinton could talk to the leader of Russia on the phone, eat a pizza, and have Monica Lewinsky do him a favor all at the same time, or so rumor has it.

I hope Trump does nothing else for the rest of his term in office. He'll be doing us all a big favor. He can leave the immigrants on the border alone, stop enticing the Iranians to war, stop enforcing the tariffs, all that would be just fine. So Nancy should just keep on investigating until January of 2021.
Until then, Donald says it's just too hard to actually be both president and investigated. Poor baby

Richard Nixon signed some bills into law on the same day he resigned.

Donald Trump ain't no Richard Nixon and he sure ain't no Bill Clinton.






Who needs him. Vlad Putin is in charge of the USA now and has been since 2016. Thank you republican comrades.

zsomething



I can't imagine anything more embarrassing than having to admit you voted for this guy and continue to support him. It would be hard to pick a person more pathetically unsuited for the job of president. He's making Republican voters look like silly dipshits who are motivated primarily by racism and can't be trusted to make important decisions.

Guest


Guest

Oops... there was another "investigation" of the trump campaign that was conducted by brennan.

This one apparently came directly from Obama. Stay tuned comrades... this won't end well.

Watergate was minor league compared to this.

gatorfan



zsomething wrote:I can't imagine anything more embarrassing than having to admit you voted for this guy and continue to support him.   It would be hard to pick a person more pathetically unsuited for the job of president.  He's making Republican voters look like silly dipshits who are motivated primarily by racism and can't be trusted to make important decisions.

Seems like you are completely forgetting the Electoral College. You remember those folks who were fully expected (by repeated polling numbers) to back HRC in the majority but flipped for whatever their reasons and put the Trumpet in office.

Blame them too. Actually even more so since the "popular" vote apparently doesn't mean squat anymore.

Of course HRC should accept blame too but THAT will never happen, she was a pitiful candidate.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Tell me again about the outcome of Watergate.

There are at least 29 investigations into Trump and his closest allies—that we know of

There are currently at least 10 federal criminal investigations underway that touch upon the dealings of Donald J. Trump and his top allies. Ten! And that's just the ones we know of!

The New York Times put together a comprehensive list of federal, state, and congressional investigations linked to Donald Trump and it is certainly ... illuminating ... to see it all in one place. By the Times' reckoning, there are 29 such investigations underway at present. Of those, 10 are for possible federal crimes, eight others are state or local (most in Trump's home state of New York), and 11 are congressional works in progress.

Nearly all fall into three distinct groups. There are multiple investigations into the grift machine surrounding Trump, centered mostly around Trump's inaugural committee and the gobs of still-unaccounted for money that sloshed through it, but also on potential improprieties in who has been granted security clearances and on the administration's very curious attempts to boost Saudi Arabian efforts to acquire nuclear technology.

There are numerous investigations as to whether the current president has been a lifelong tax dodge, bank and insurance fraudster, money launderer, and committed other financial crimes. Numerous. Trump's status as a still-unindicted Individual 1 in a hush money scheme during his own presidential campaign may not be the capper of that lot, but is the most developed; Trump lawyer Michael Cohen and his prosecutors now appear to agree that Trump himself ordered that a criminal action take place.

And then, of course, there’s Russia, its actions to boost Trump in his presidential election, and Trump's robust and ongoing efforts to keep federal investigators from delving too deeply into his campaign and administration's own solicitations and responses.

Now that Robert Mueller has submitted his final report, each of the cases taken up by the special counsel's office has been parceled out to other offices; this appears to include still-secret investigations we don't yet know about. The majority of the work involving Trump himself, however, has now landed at Congress' feet. Mueller was explicit in his determination that he lacked the authority to bring indictments against a sitting president, regardless of evidence.

But he laid out considerable evidence that suggested Trump's actions would be considered criminal if he was not subject to such a policy, along with repeated invocations of impeachment as the only remaining remedy.

As Congress takes up each of the issues that Mueller could not, it may come to that. Trump, his newly installed attorney general, and the rest of his team are now blocking all substantive attempts by Congress to gain access to even the full contents of Mueller's report, much less testimony and material evidence from the key players.

Lest we begin to normalize this, too, it should be again noted that 10 federal criminal investigations of a sitting president is a lot, and the sheer volume of scandals surrounding not just Trump, but past and current administration members from Ryan Zinke to Betsy DeVos to Steve Mnuchin to take-your-pick is unprecedented, in modern times. Few of the resulting probes will be going away when Trump leaves office, meaning we'll be dealing with the aftermath of Team Trump's grifting, incompetence, and corruption for years.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/18/1857406/-There-are-at-least-29-investigations-into-Trump-and-his-closest-allies-that-we-know-of?detail=emaildkre#comment_73906366

zsomething



gatorfan wrote:
zsomething wrote:I can't imagine anything more embarrassing than having to admit you voted for this guy and continue to support him.   It would be hard to pick a person more pathetically unsuited for the job of president.  He's making Republican voters look like silly dipshits who are motivated primarily by racism and can't be trusted to make important decisions.

Seems like you are completely forgetting the Electoral College. You remember those folks who were fully expected (by repeated polling numbers) to back HRC in the majority but flipped for whatever their reasons and put the Trumpet in office.

Blame them too. Actually even more so since the "popular" vote apparently doesn't mean squat anymore.

Of course HRC should accept blame too but THAT will never happen, she was a pitiful candidate.

Like HRC or not, nobody's a more pitiful candidate than Donald Trump. Nobody. I get it if somebody didn't like HRC. I don't get it if somebody did not see that Trump was a complete narcissist looneytoon FRAUD con-man who can't be trusted with any kind of responsibility. Honestly, anybody who trusted that jackass with anything shouldn't be making any decisions. I'm starting to understand why most of the conservatives I know have kids who are drug addicts, in jail for various crimes, have multiple divorces, etc. -- they're absolute idiots at decision making.

As for the electoral college, that thing needs to go. I know it's supposed to help smaller states like mine, but it doesn't... it just holds the people here who have any sense hostage to the idiots who outnumber us. A lot of Democrats in Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, etc. don't even bother to go and vote because they know our votes aren't going to count. And I'm sure the same thing happens to Republicans in states like California, New York, etc. So, ditching the electoral college actually would help out everyone, and likely increase voter turn-out in states that would otherwise feel "hopeless" to one party or other.

And, if we'd ditched it, we wouldn't have had Trump, and we wouldn't have had Dubya, and the United States would be far better off now.

Telstar

Telstar

zsomething wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
zsomething wrote:I can't imagine anything more embarrassing than having to admit you voted for this guy and continue to support him.   It would be hard to pick a person more pathetically unsuited for the job of president.  He's making Republican voters look like silly dipshits who are motivated primarily by racism and can't be trusted to make important decisions.

Seems like you are completely forgetting the Electoral College. You remember those folks who were fully expected (by repeated polling numbers) to back HRC in the majority but flipped for whatever their reasons and put the Trumpet in office.

Blame them too. Actually even more so since the "popular" vote apparently doesn't mean squat anymore.

Of course HRC should accept blame too but THAT will never happen, she was a pitiful candidate.

Like HRC or not, nobody's a more pitiful candidate than Donald Trump.  Nobody.  I get it if somebody didn't like HRC.  I don't get it if somebody did not see that Trump was a complete narcissist looneytoon FRAUD con-man who can't be trusted with any kind of responsibility.  Honestly, anybody who trusted that jackass with anything shouldn't be making any decisions.   I'm starting to understand why most of the conservatives I know have kids who are drug addicts, in jail for various crimes, have multiple divorces, etc.  -- they're absolute idiots at decision making.  

As for the electoral college, that thing needs to go.  I know it's supposed to help smaller states like mine, but it doesn't... it just holds the people here who have any sense hostage to the idiots who outnumber us.   A lot of Democrats in Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, etc. don't even bother to go and vote because they know our votes aren't going to count.   And I'm sure the same thing happens to Republicans in states like California, New York, etc.   So, ditching the electoral college actually would help out everyone, and likely increase voter turn-out in states that would otherwise feel "hopeless" to one party or other.

And, if we'd ditched it, we wouldn't have had Trump, and we wouldn't have had Dubya, and the United States would be far better off now.  







So, if Trump refuses to do his job anymore, will anybody ever notice? Downlo12

gatorfan



zsomething wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
zsomething wrote:I can't imagine anything more embarrassing than having to admit you voted for this guy and continue to support him.   It would be hard to pick a person more pathetically unsuited for the job of president.  He's making Republican voters look like silly dipshits who are motivated primarily by racism and can't be trusted to make important decisions.

Seems like you are completely forgetting the Electoral College. You remember those folks who were fully expected (by repeated polling numbers) to back HRC in the majority but flipped for whatever their reasons and put the Trumpet in office.

Blame them too. Actually even more so since the "popular" vote apparently doesn't mean squat anymore.

Of course HRC should accept blame too but THAT will never happen, she was a pitiful candidate.

Like HRC or not, nobody's a more pitiful candidate than Donald Trump.  Nobody.  I get it if somebody didn't like HRC.  I don't get it if somebody did not see that Trump was a complete narcissist looneytoon FRAUD con-man who can't be trusted with any kind of responsibility.  Honestly, anybody who trusted that jackass with anything shouldn't be making any decisions.   I'm starting to understand why most of the conservatives I know have kids who are drug addicts, in jail for various crimes, have multiple divorces, etc.  -- they're absolute idiots at decision making.  

As for the electoral college, that thing needs to go.  I know it's supposed to help smaller states like mine, but it doesn't... it just holds the people here who have any sense hostage to the idiots who outnumber us.   A lot of Democrats in Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, etc. don't even bother to go and vote because they know our votes aren't going to count.   And I'm sure the same thing happens to Republicans in states like California, New York, etc.   So, ditching the electoral college actually would help out everyone, and likely increase voter turn-out in states that would otherwise feel "hopeless" to one party or other.

And, if we'd ditched it, we wouldn't have had Trump, and we wouldn't have had Dubya, and the United States would be far better off now.  

And that's one of the major problems with this country, voter apathy. It's more common than not, even Independents like me sometimes feel it doesn't make sense to vote but I do anyway. That gives me the right to complain......

zsomething



gatorfan wrote:

And that's one of the major problems with this country, voter apathy. It's more common than not, even Independents like me sometimes feel it doesn't make sense to vote but I do anyway. That gives me the right to complain......

Yep, I vote no matter what, because I'm stubborn and I at least want conservatives to see the state turn deeper purple, even if it keeps going red. But I think getting rid of the electoral college would decrease voter apathy on all sides. Besides, my state votes so ass-ignorantly all the time, I don't mind giving up whatever "advantage" the electoral college would give us. Most people in my state are anything but informed voters.

bigdog



[quote="PkrBum"]Oops... there was another "investigation" of the trump campaign that was conducted by brennan.

This one apparently came directly from Obama. Stay tuned comrades... this won't end well.

Watergate was minor league compared to this.


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Watergate was nothing compared to the criminal actions of this president.
The investigation of the Russian interference in our election was a duly executed investigation that only involved Donald Trump's family because that's where the facts led. It was not aimed at Trump in the beginning.

You can't blame the FBI for not stopping its investigation when it began to involve a candidate for POTUS. That made it even more essential.
And again, nobody cares how it started anymore, just like nobody cares about Hillary's e-mails anymore. Those talking points are so old and so boring. I really wish Republicans could be more creative.

Guest


Guest

bigdog wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Oops... there was another "investigation" of the trump campaign that was conducted by brennan.

This one apparently came directly from Obama. Stay tuned comrades... this won't end well.

Watergate was minor league compared to this.


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Watergate was nothing compared to the criminal actions of this president.
The investigation of the Russian interference in our election was a duly executed investigation that only involved Donald Trump's family because that's where the facts led. It was not aimed at Trump in the beginning.

You can't blame the FBI for not stopping its investigation when it began to involve a candidate for POTUS. That made it even more essential.
And again, nobody cares how it started anymore, just like nobody cares about Hillary's e-mails anymore. Those talking points are so old and so boring. I really wish Republicans could be more creative.

Ok... either hold those accountable that contrived the investigation or trump should be free to use the same tactics.

Right?

bigdog



Are you saying there was something wrong with their tactics? They were operating under a FISA warrant.

And Trump is already ordering the intelligence agencies to cooperate with Barr on his new game pretending something was wrong with the beginning of the Mueller investigation.

It's a game.
And how about that dragging half of his staff out in front of the cameras to say how stable he was at yesterday's meeting. Talk about an insecurity complex!
That is so embarrassing in front of the rest of the world.

Telstar

Telstar

bigdog wrote:Are you saying there was something wrong with their tactics? They were operating under a FISA warrant.

And Trump is already ordering the intelligence agencies to cooperate with Barr on his new game pretending something was wrong with the beginning of the Mueller investigation.

It's a game.
And how about that dragging half of his staff out in front of the cameras to say how stable he was at yesterday's meeting. Talk about an insecurity complex!
That is so embarrassing in front of the rest of the world.




It's not just him any more it their whole party. They must be branded as traitors and forced to wander in the wilderness for 20 years or more. How did the founding fathers deal with traitors who sold out our country for the foreign coin. The only good traitor is a dead traitor. By their actions they have betrayed liberty so GIVE THEM DEATH! Twisted Evil

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:Oops... there was another "investigation" of the trump campaign that was conducted by brennan.

This one apparently came directly from Obama. Stay tuned comrades... this won't end well.

Watergate was minor league compared to this.


Are you getting this info straight from Q, or is this conjecture?

Also, precisely when did pizzagate become more important than the deficit?

Asking for a friend.

Thanks.

Telstar

Telstar

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Oops... there was another "investigation" of the trump campaign that was conducted by brennan.

This one apparently came directly from Obama. Stay tuned comrades... this won't end well.

Watergate was minor league compared to this.


Are you getting this info straight from Q, or is this conjecture?

Also, precisely when did pizzagate become more important than the deficit?

Asking for a friend.

Thanks.





Q! the Santa Claus of the right wing conspiracy nuts.  lol!



zsomething



It's funny watching desperate fuckwit human-garbage "libertarians" trying to pretend that investigating a possible crime is the real crime. Very Happy

Benghazi turned out to be nothin' and was investigated as much as Trump, and they all cheered for that and still think it's something. Mueller found evidence of obstruction of justice and now these fake-ass hypocrites are acting like Trump was being "picked on" and that it's somehow a scandalous conspiracy to even investigate the Russian meddling into the election.

Seriously, what an idiot. Smile

zsomething



Sure, this isn't totalitarian or anything. Of course, it'll please Trump's idiot cult, because they don't give a good goddamn about actual government integrity, they just like to say they do.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/24/1860097/-Trump-gives-William-Barr-unchallenged-authority-to-declassify-any-document-from-any-agency

In a move that represents a massive threat to the institutional and operational integrity of America’s intelligence agencies, Donald Trump has granted Attorney General William Barr sweeping powers to conduct investigations into those agencies and release intelligence documents. This includes forcing agencies to release documents that have been judged to represent a threat to national security.

Trump’s order allows Barr to review both processes and documents at 16 agencies, then to select documents and force their reveal. It’s an order that gives Barr the ability to create a carefully curated set of declassified documents containing only those that support the idea that the agencies began the Russia investigation out of political motives, while discarding any information that doesn’t fit that narrative. And it’s absolutely no coincidence that the announcement of Barr’s new position as starshy politruk comes immediately after Trump had declared that the Department of Justice and FBI had committed treason in opening the investigation.

As The New York Times reports, Trump has ordered the CIA and 15 other intelligence agencies to surrender to Barr’s review, and has granted Barr the unique authority to unilaterally declassify any document he chooses. Documents that could reveal sources still in place, or secret techniques, or technical abilities not yet revealed are all fair game for Barr’s new and unprecedented authority.

Barr has already demonstrated that he knows the game he is playing by using the word “spying” to describe lawfully authorized surveillance. And Barr has suggested in congressional testimony that agencies acted improperly, and that more “spying” occurred, even though he presented no evidence to support these claims. Barr has his own very special prosecutor, in the form of U.S. attorney John Durham, already engaged in a review of government actions. But now Barr has the authority to open the door for his operative at any agency, turning over every stone to find what Trump wants.

Imagine a Barr report in which the only things made available are declassified texts or emails making it appear that agency officials were prejudiced against Trump, with everything else remaining neatly classified. It won’t be imaginary for long.

The authority that Trump has given Barr is genuinely extraordinary. He has the unchecked ability to look into any area, at any agency, and to release what he wants—and only what he wants. That’s not an investigation or a “witch hunt”—it’s another step toward a purge.

The Times reports that Barr has already been asking about foreign assets that the CIA has in place in Russia. This is information that could cost the lives of those involved, and threatens the ability of the United States to gather intelligence. The agency keeps the identities of assets in place as its most closely held secret—and that’s where Barr has gone immediately after gaining this new authority.

The power Donald Trump has given to William Barr may seem like just another step in his “investigate the investigators” strategy: another layer on top of the already underway inspector general’s investigation, and the investigation already launched under Durham. It may even seem like just a distraction designed to take attention away from the temper tantrum in which Trump declared the nation’s business was on hold until all investigations into his actions ended.

But this is a genuinely extraordinary move, one that threatens to shatter the integrity and effectiveness of the entire intelligence community.

It’s also a move that cements Barr’s position. He’s not the nation’s top law enforcement officer. He’s the nation’s top political officer.

When another 9/11 happens because our intelligence forces have been hamstrung, never forget who did it, and who supported it.

Guest


Guest

If the intelligence apparatus acted appropriately and within both the constitution and the law there's nothing to see.

If they didn't however... fuck their fake integrity and partisan feeeeelings.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:... fuck their fake integrity and partisan feeeeelings.

This from our very own BENGHAZI!!!!1!!!1!! boy ....

.... bless his heart.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:... fuck their fake integrity and partisan feeeeelings.

This from our very own BENGHAZI!!!!1!!!1!! boy ....

.... bless his heart.

PeckerBum has always been a troll. He whined when Markle was banned. He whined when Chrissy was banned. He tried to have me banned when I called out Markle, who was dumb enough to post a link to his personal site.

He has advanced Austrian and Chicago School economics and the theories of Ludwig von Mises. He's a traitor to the US and a pox on our values.

Telstar

Telstar

Floridatexan wrote:
Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:... fuck their fake integrity and partisan feeeeelings.

This from our very own BENGHAZI!!!!1!!!1!! boy ....

.... bless his heart.

PeckerBum has always been a troll.  He whined when Markle was banned. He whined when Chrissy was banned.  He tried to have me banned when I called out Markle, who was dumb enough to post a link to his personal site.  

He has advanced Austrian and Chicago School economics and the theories of Ludwig von Mises.  He's a traitor to the US and a pox on our values.




He tried to have me banned too. Don't forget he created a poll to have BOF removed as administrator and replaced by some stooge. Still don't understand why he deletes his account every so often and comes back with the same stupid user name. Twisted Evil

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