the Great and Mighty trump has spoken

ConservaLady wrote:This thread and others like it are like a crying room for loser lefty liberals.

Are you all going to have a group hug next?   (you can leave me out of that, please!  lol)

knothead wrote: DEPLORABLE!

ConservaLady wrote:

knothead wrote: DEPLORABLE!

That word right there is a big part of why Hillary Clinton lost the election.  While Donald Trump was out telling Americans how GREAT we all are,

and reserving his scorn for illegal alien criminals from other countries

who do not vote.  Ms Clinton was running around shooting her mouth off publicly looking down her nose at and disparaging half of the US population.

How stupid is that?

2seaoat wrote:Trump Derangement Syndrome. So juvenile!


mudda and fadda created the monster.......and now he says Chinnnnnna like the proud New Yorker he is.  Its funny the folks who support Trump sound more like Gomer Pyle......gollllllllllly......than Yogi Berra (Half the lies they tell about me aren't true.)

 Nope, if he gets us out of Korea he is my hero, but until then he is a certified buffoon which is not a syndrome, but his permanent state.  I could see my Southern Baptist Alabama grandparents meeting trump, and as he walked away from their meeting my grandfather would probably say.......that boy is missing an oar in the water........

With fools, there is no companionship. Rather than to live with men who are selfish, vain, quarrelsome, and obstinate, let a man walk alone. Buddha

ConservaLady wrote:This thread and others like it are like a crying room for loser lefty liberals.

Are you all going to have a group hug next?   (you can leave me out of that, please!  lol)

zsomething wrote:

ConservaLady wrote:

knothead wrote: DEPLORABLE!

That word right there is a big part of why Hillary Clinton lost the election.  While Donald Trump was out telling Americans how GREAT we all are,

Including the bigots!  Some of whom are very fine people, to hear him tell it.

and reserving his scorn for illegal alien criminals from other countries

You defend xenophobia so well.  Must be Jesus who taught you, huh?

Conservative-Jesus, I mean, not the actual historical one, who was a huge liberal socialist, no relation whatsoever.

who do not vote.  Ms Clinton was running around shooting her mouth off publicly looking down her nose at and disparaging half of the US population.

In her defense, she was only disparaging the shitty half.  


 

How stupid is that?

May not be smart politically --- Trump's pretty much proven that there's something to be gained by pandering to the worst instincts of America's worst people -- but, morally, it's pretty good.   I don't have to be ashamed of my vote, because I didn't vote for someone who was courting David Duke and Richard Spencer, etc.

Win or lose, I'm very happy these people are NOT on my side.









Proud of that?  It's what you're in bed with.  You're part of it.

Call it "stupid" all you like, but I'm very happy that's not something my candidate encouraged.   They say Trump's a builder.  Well, look at what he built.  You helped him.

Yeah.  I think "deplorable" fits.  Walk around in it, it's yours.

zsomething wrote:

Proud of that?  It's what you're in bed with.  You're part of it.

If you think Trump is a white supremacist, you should talk to a real one


If President Trump is really the white supremacist his critics insist he is, he must be a huge disappointment to his bigoted brethren.

For more than a year, we have heard the president’s critics insist he is this worst type of racist. Or that at the very least, white supremacists support him. But if these vile folks really do back the current occupant of the White House, it is not because Trump shares their worldview.

How do I know this? I interviewed Richard Spencer, who is undoubtedly the poster boy for white supremacy. Spencer is such a toxic figure that when he showed up to speak at a university in Florida the governor declared a state emergency. Spencer is routinely portrayed as a right-wing neo-Nazi and confirms this narrative by insisting he is a Trump supporter.

Yet when I interviewed him recently for my new movie “Death of a Nation,” Spencer turned out to be anything but right-wing and his views were markedly different from those of Trump.

Here’s an excerpt from that interview:

    Me: What do you think of the American founding?

    Spencer: I’ve been critical of the American founding throughout my career.

    Me: “All men are created equal.”  True or false?

    Spencer: False, obviously.

    Me: The idea that we have a right to life, true or false?

    Spencer: I don’t think we have rights to really anything.

    I asked Spencer about the two main prongs of Reaganite conservatism.

    Me: One prong is American influence is good for the word and that American power should project American values, agree or disagree?

    Spencer: If American values are we need to destroy other cultures and bring them into one big capitalist market or something, I don’t think we should be promoting American values in that sense.

    Me: The second prong of Reaganism was free market economics, promoting a global free market in which people trade with each other. Would you like to see the world be a global capitalist order?

    Spencer: Absolutely not. This notion that we need to destroy our own industries, that our people are just one more competitor in a global marketplace. “Good luck, sink or swim, pal.” The notion that that should be the guiding philosophy of our citizens is disgusting, actually. I totally reject that.

    I asked Spencer about his advocacy of a concept called the white ethno-state.

    Me: What I take you to be saying is that the white ethno-state would have a powerful state at the center of it.

    Spencer: No question.

    Me: But this notion of limited government…As you know, the founders saw the government as the enemy of our rights.

    Spencer: No individual has a right outside of a collective community. You have rights, not eternally or given by God, or by nature.

    Me: Who gives them to us?

    Spencer: Ultimately the state gives those right to you. The state is the source of rights, not the individual.

    Me: Would it be fair to say you are not just against illegal immigration but immigration, period?

    Spencer: I’m against immigration coming in from the Third World that is ultimately going to change the ethnic and cultural constitution of the United States. I wouldn’t say I’m against immigration in itself. I would actually be happy to open the door to white South Africans among many who are truly suffering.

    Me: Would you be happy with an immigration policy that said, we want people from New Zealand, Australia, white guys from Europe and South Africa. We don’t want people from Barbados or Bombay.

    Spencer: Yes, and that was the immigration policy beginning in 1924 up until 1965. That period of time coincided with American greatness.

    Me: Now this seems very different than Trump. Trump was quoted in the paper saying, if there’s an Indian guy working in Silicon Valley and his visa runs out, and we have to send him home, that’s a loss. That’s something we should try to prevent. You disagree?

    Spencer: I do disagree with that. The H-1B Visa Program has been totally detrimental to white people. I want white people to become doctors, lawyers. I want white people to achieve their dreams.

See how distant Spencer’s politics are from Trump’s?

Trump is a patriot who cherishes the founders; Spencer isn’t and doesn’t.

Trump is a capitalist; Spencer prefers a strong state regulating markets on behalf of white interests.

Trump wants to keep illegals out so legal immigrants – white, black and brown – can thrive. Spencer wants more white immigrants, fewer – if any – black and brown ones.

In fact, Spencer’s racialized politics of the powerIn sum, Trump is generally conservative and Spencer is clearly not. ful centralized state is reminiscent of the ideology of Woodrow Wilson and the early twentieth-century progressives.

Yet the media continues to depict Spencer as a right-winger because it serves the ideological narrative of pinning the racist and fascist tail on the Republican elephant, when it belongs more clearly on the Democratic donkey.

Dinesh D’Souza is a best-selling author and filmmaker. D’Souza’s new book "Death of a Nation" will be out July 31 from St. Martin’s Press. His movie of the same title opens nationwide on Friday August 3. For more visit www.DineshDSouza.com.

ConservaLady wrote:

Just because a few communists might have vote for Hillary Clinton doesn't make every Democrat a communist.

zsomething wrote:
Which "she" follows up with a Dineseh D'Souza piece.

Obama Criminalizes Dissent, Goes After Dinesh D’Souza


In 2012, conservative author Dinesh D’Souza produced an anti-Obama documentary, 2016: Obama’s America. The film earned over $33 million at the box office and was the highest-grossing documentary since 1982. The outspoken Christian conservative and bestselling author also released a book that year, Obama's America: Unmaking the American Dream. Previously, in 2008, D’Souza gave Obama’s half-brother George $1,000 for a medical emergency when Obama would not respond to George’s pleas for help. George lives in a 6 by 10 foot hut in the slums of Kenya, and told D’Souza, "You're the only guy I know I can call." George then appeared in D’Souza’s documentary, expressing his disappointment that Obama had not responded to his request for help, “he’s supposed to help his family.”

It doesn’t appear to be a coincidence that the Obama administration is now targeting D’Souza for minor campaign finance violations. Last week he was criminally indicted. But what does this really mean? There is an old saying that a good prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich, and as a former prosecutor, I agree.

D’Souza helped raise $785,000 for a friend of his who was running for Congress, Wendy Long. After he and his wife maxed out contributing the legally allowed $5,000 to the campaign, federal authorities claim that he illegally reimbursed straw donors for another $20,000 secretly coming from him. He faces up to seven years in prison if convicted.

In contrast, when Democrat Senator John Edwards received numerous $2,000 donations from support staff and paralegals at large law firms, many all on the same day, nothing happened to him. Overlawyered reported,

Washington periodical The Hill digs deeper into the curiously uniform $2,000 contributions Sen. John Edwards' presidential campaign got from so many receptionists, paralegals and other low-level staffers at plaintiff's law firms. The $2,000 donors include many employees who had not given to candidates or even voted in the past, and others who are listed on the voting rolls as Republicans. Many spouses and relatives of the staffers likewise contributed the maximum. Some of the munificent staffers have recently gone through the kind of personal financial reverses -- bankruptcy filings, for example -- which would not seem to correlate in the natural order of things with having a large available checkbook for political donations. "In many instances, all the checks from a given firm arrived on the same day -- from partners, attorneys, and other support staff."

The reality is, thousands of people donate to political campaigns through straw donors. It’s just usually tolerated and ignored, or at most there is a wrist slap such as a paltry fine. I am a former attorney for the Maricopa County Elections Department. If authorities had the resources to dig through and investigate all of the donors to every race for office across the country, I suspect the vast majority of them would contain straw donors. If straw donors had been reported contributing $20,000 to a Congressional Democrat’s campaign, would this Democratic administration have brought charges? Of course not, it would have swept the incident under the rug or dismissed it on strained, bogus technical grounds. Sadly, lawyers and judges with an agenda are able to twist the law to achieve a desired outcome in our judicial system.

ConservaLady wrote:
D'Souza is a great American propagandist blah-blah-blah idiotic Trump-cult bullshit nonsense blah-blah-blah butthonk

zsomething wrote:

ConservaLady wrote:
D'Souza is a great American propagandist blah-blah-blah idiotic Trump-cult bullshit nonsense blah-blah-blah butthonk