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It turns out Russia used the NRA to funnel money to the Trump Campaign!

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ConservaLady
Deus X
EmeraldGhost
polecat
Telstar
zsomething
Wordslinger
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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

And what this means, is if you still have an NRA membership, you're a traitor to the United States of America. Keep your guns, but dump the National Russia Association!!!

From your cold dead hands, comrade? I certainly hope so.

zsomething



The NRA used to be a good thing, but -- like a lot of churches -- right-wing politics metastasized it into something little better than a radicalized terrorist organization.

And now it's collaborating with the enemies of democracy, flat-out. And they don't care, because it's helping them reach their ends... they don't care if they have to get in bed with a totalitarian, murderous regime like Putin's to do it.

What's funny is, they're helping America and empowering Russia... and do ya think Russia has the 2nd amendment? Nope!

The NRA is short-sighted, stupid, and counterproductive. They're too dumb and crazy to get out of their own way.

If you haven't seen this yet, it's definitely worth the view. These people are NUTS.



I was really amused to see Trent Lott in there. I have a cousin who basically owns Trent Lott. Got him to take a bribe and get armed robbery -- with prison sentence -- wiped off his druggie kid's record. Conservatives, gotta love 'em, such moral people.

Telstar

Telstar

zsomething wrote:The NRA used to be a good thing, but -- like a lot of churches -- right-wing politics metastasized it into something little better than a radicalized terrorist organization.

And now it's collaborating with the enemies of democracy, flat-out.  And they don't care, because it's helping them reach their ends... they don't care if they have to get in bed with a totalitarian, murderous regime like Putin's to do it.

What's funny is, they're helping America and empowering Russia... and do ya think Russia has the 2nd amendment?  Nope!

The NRA is short-sighted, stupid, and counterproductive.  They're too dumb and crazy to get out of their own way.

If you haven't seen this yet, it's definitely worth the view.  These people are NUTS.



I was really amused to see Trent Lott in there.  I have a cousin who basically owns Trent Lott.  Got him to take a bribe and get armed robbery -- with prison sentence -- wiped off his druggie kid's record.   Conservatives, gotta love 'em, such moral people.






Can't wait to see the one where he bamboozles snotty Sarah Palin.

polecat

polecat

Wait, hold on, this is getting lost in the fire:
The NRA was LITERALLY colluding with a Russian spy and within 24 HOURS, there’s a law that saves them from having to disclose their dark money donors to the IRS.
That’s a thing that happened. - Cameron Kasky

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

zsomething wrote:

And now it's collaborating with the enemies of democracy, flat-out.  And they don't care, because it's helping them reach their ends...


Liberal/progressive organizations do the same ... politics makes for strange bedfellows, as they say. Always has.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

EmeraldGhost wrote:
zsomething wrote:

And now it's collaborating with the enemies of democracy, flat-out.  And they don't care, because it's helping them reach their ends...


Liberal/progressive organizations do the same ... politics makes for strange bedfellows, as they say.  Always has.

But in this very special case we have a flag-waving, we're the
All American From sea to shining sea gun safety and training outfit, transitioning to a completely political, pro-Russian act of electoral treason.

Fuck the NRA and any traitorous American who maintains membership! I will volunteer to remove the guns from any of these traitor's cold dead hands, and sing God Bless America while doing so.

Deus X

Deus X

EmeraldGhost wrote:
Liberal/progressive organizations do the same ... politics makes for strange bedfellows, as they say.  Always has.

Frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass so much.

Post some examples--from SERIOUS sources, not some bullshit extremist leftie crap.

ConservaLady

ConservaLady

Wordslinger wrote:And what this means, is if you still have an NRA membership, you're a traitor to the United States of America.  Keep your guns, but dump the National Russia Association!!!  

From your cold dead hands, comrade?  I certainly hope so.

You can't just say things without an proof and expect people to believe them. Unless you're talking to liberals of course!

I am a proud member of the NRA. Every member of my family and most of our friends are too. So I really don't care where the NRA gets money from so long as they are using it to protect our gun rights from liberals who would take them away.

It turns out Russia used the NRA to funnel money to the Trump Campaign! 201601-gun-bible-abbott-360x360




zsomething



ConservaLady wrote:

You can't just say things without an proof and expect people to believe them.  Unless you're talking to liberals of course!

Says the person who keeps quoting from the Bible. Smile


I am a proud member of the NRA.  Every member of my family and most of our friends are too.

KKK, too, most likely!



So I really don't care where the NRA gets money from so long as they are using it to protect our gun rights from liberals who would take them away.

I know. Trump makes that much obvious. You don't care who meddles in your democracy, as long as it benefits your ignorant garbage-person side. You (or at least the character you're playing, which you've already given away as bullshit -- you didn't catch your slip-up, didja? Wink But I'll keep playing along 'cuz you're such a fun chew-toy! And, really, I think you're doing more damage to the conservative side by being such a total piece-of-shit while you pretend to represent it) have no principles, no morals, no nothing. You're just dumb as a sheep, eager to be led. You're the kind who filled Germany back in the 30's and 40's, turning a blind eye to the horrors committed in your name.

Yeah, I know your kind. I scrape better than you off my shoe every day.

Anyway, I've got guns, too. Bet I'm better with mine than you are. Maybe someday we can find out. Smile

The NRA's making a mint off of America's idiot scum. I'm not surprised you're one of 'em. I like guns fine, but fuck the NRA and anybody still stupid enough to pay 'em dues.

Here's how stupid you (or at least the people you're representing with this corny character you're playing) are. Enjoy!







Floridatexan

Floridatexan

ConservaLady wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:And what this means, is if you still have an NRA membership, you're a traitor to the United States of America.  Keep your guns, but dump the National Russia Association!!!  

From your cold dead hands, comrade?  I certainly hope so.

You can't just say things without an proof and expect people to believe them.  Unless you're talking to liberals of course!

I am a proud member of the NRA.  Every member of my family and most of our friends are too.   So I really don't care where the NRA gets money from so long as they are using it to protect our gun rights from liberals who would take them away.

It turns out Russia used the NRA to funnel money to the Trump Campaign! 201601-gun-bible-abbott-360x360





So, if you can't convert me, are you gonna shoot me? Do you fail to recognize the logical fallacy of celebrating both religion and guns in the same breath?

It turns out Russia used the NRA to funnel money to the Trump Campaign! NpkZ1qUK_400x400

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

ConservaLady wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:And what this means, is if you still have an NRA membership, you're a traitor to the United States of America.  Keep your guns, but dump the National Russia Association!!!  

From your cold dead hands, comrade?  I certainly hope so.

You can't just say things without an proof and expect people to believe them.  Unless you're talking to liberals of course!

I am a proud member of the NRA.  Every member of my family and most of our friends are too.   So I really don't care where the NRA gets money from so long as they are using it to protect our gun rights from liberals who would take them away.

It turns out Russia used the NRA to funnel money to the Trump Campaign! 201601-gun-bible-abbott-360x360





Yes, I fully understand your point of view: your right to bear arms does indeed supersede all the other freedoms present in our constitution. What's it like being a proud American traitor? I want to know more about my enemies!

Guest


Guest

The right to bear arms is a fundamental legal right in this country. The vast majority of gun crime takes place in a known location by a known demographic already prohibited by LAW to be near a gun.

What's your solution?



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polecat

polecat

Trump is willing to shut down the govt to fight the MS-13 gang.
Trump is willing to do nothing to keep the MS-13 gang from easily getting guns.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:The right to bear arms is a fundamental legal right in this country. The vast majority of gun crime takes place in a known location by a known democratic already prohibited by LAW to be near a gun.

What's your solution?

Try to focus. The issue isn't the right to bear arms. The issue is treasonous acts in collusion with Russian agents to funnel illegal campaign funds to our traitor-in-chief. By doing so, the NRA has become a traitorous organization with the objective of overthrowing our democracy. If you choose to remain a member, then you are an enemy of the United States. It's good for us to know our enemies!

2seaoat



The Supreme Court has said guns may in fact be regulated, and this false paradigm of NO GUNS vs I can have any gun in America without regulation debate is simply false. NOBODY is arguing no guns. Some are arguing regulations of certain guns and ammunition. So exactly who are these fantasy gun nappers who are going to come and take your guns. Nobody is taking my guns, nor has anyone suggested the same. My solution is simple. Chip all guns with at least three RF signals, have a chipped FOID card, and require transport permits to move any gun in a vehicle in America. The permits would be a phone app which scans the weapons, and gives transport route, and within one minute much like ordering an uber, the honest citizen could move a weapon by vehicle, all other folks would be breaking the law. Most shootings in America have nothing to do with the protection of a person's homestead, but are from weapons transported in a vehicle. You want to go hunting, you need a hunting permit which you can get online, and a transport permit would take less time.

Deus X

Deus X

2seaoat wrote:  My solution is simple.  Chip all guns with at least three RF signals, have a chipped FOID card, and require transport permits to move any gun in a vehicle in America.  The permits would be a phone app which scans the weapons, and gives transport route, and within one minute much like ordering an uber, the honest citizen could move a weapon by vehicle, all other folks would be breaking the law.  

"My solution is simple": HA! Your solution is nuts! Chip all guns? There's more guns in this country than people and you propose to fit them all out with RF chips, then make everyone who wants to move a gun to get a smart-phone app linked to the chips? Yeah, right, that'll be happening.

And what are the cops supposed to to do? Stop every car they suspect might be carrying a gun?

YOUR SOLUTION IS NUTS!

2seaoat



Who said every gun in America has to be chipped. Sorry, it is simple. You want to transport your gun, it has to be chipped, you have to have a chipped foid card, and you have to get your permit online just like a hunting license. You want a conceal and carry permit, you get your guns chipped. Licensed federal gun agents would chip the guns and sync the same. If twenty five years ago if somebody told you that you could use your phone to get your hunting license online, you would be told you are nuts.

So in summary, if you have a gun in a vehicle, it must be chipped, you must have a foid card, and you must have a transport permit. The only exceptions would be conceal and carry permit holders and law enforcement. Easy Peasy. Your gun at home which is not transported is grandfathered as long as it is not transported in a vehicle on the public roads. If you are going to transport for sale or to move to another location, you can get an exemption as to chipping if the gun is going to be located at home, but you still have to file online for an exemption permit which allows transport to your new home. Gun ownership at home......nothing changes, but if you transport a gun in a vehicle, there will be new federal regulations for transport of a firearm on public roads.

2seaoat



If you told somebody twenty five years ago that you could get a transport permit for a Park model RV oversize on a phone, you would be called nuts. Yet, I got my transport permit in Illinois by simply doing it online without hassle.....gave them my route, dimensions, weight, and model of my RV. My RV needed a license plate to be transported, yet nobody complains about transport permits as being NUTS, so the mechanics are simple to put in place the phone apps, but the politics will take time which has to start with just one state passing a transport permit requirement which would be challenged by the court. The courts would allow the transport permits. So let us start the process. I am not unrealistic about the politics, but putting folks in jail for not having a transport permit who are driving to a drive by shooting will create an immediate drop in firearm violence.......real deterrence requires logical laws.

2seaoat



The best part of the multi chipped gun with RF technology is that an officer coming up to a car will be able to pick up if there is a chipped gun in the car with a simple scanner on his belt, and will have probable cause if the driver cannot produce a permit.....search to follow. So the bad guys will have to remove a chipped gun's chips, which will bring enhanced charges...........If you want to lower gun deaths in America, stop the illegal transport of the same.

All guns being transported will require a proper gun storage unit and must be unloaded. Gun dealers will be making money and gangbangers who shoot people will be at risk for arrest......easy peasy.

Deus X

Deus X

Calm down, pop, I just wanted to see if you were awake.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


The Second Amendment is not an absolute right; neither is the First.

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:The right to bear arms is a fundamental legal right in this country. The vast majority of gun crime takes place in a known location by a known democratic already prohibited by LAW to be near a gun.

What's your solution?

Try to focus.  The issue isn't the right to bear arms.  The issue is treasonous acts in collusion with Russian agents to funnel illegal campaign funds to our traitor-in-chief.  By doing so, the NRA has become a traitorous organization with the objective of overthrowing our democracy.  If you choose to remain a member, then you are an enemy of the United States.  It's good for us to know our enemies!

You must not understand how the right to bear arms has been stripped from exterminated populations.

2seaoat



You must not understand how the right to bear arms has been stripped from exterminated populations.

Please give an example of this. I would suggest that any example you post, the restrictions to access of guns was the least important factor in extermination. Do you really think if the Jews had guns in their homes their fate would have drastically changed in the third Reich? However, I will keep an open mind if you can point to an example of what you have referenced.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:The right to bear arms is a fundamental legal right in this country. The vast majority of gun crime takes place in a known location by a known democratic already prohibited by LAW to be near a gun.

What's your solution?

Try to focus.  The issue isn't the right to bear arms.  The issue is treasonous acts in collusion with Russian agents to funnel illegal campaign funds to our traitor-in-chief.  By doing so, the NRA has become a traitorous organization with the objective of overthrowing our democracy.  If you choose to remain a member, then you are an enemy of the United States.  It's good for us to know our enemies!

You must not understand how the right to bear arms has been stripped from exterminated populations.

What in hell has that to do with the NRA willingly being used by Russia to funnel illegal campaign funds to the Trump campaign?

Deus X

Deus X

2seaoat wrote:Please give an example of this. I would suggest that any example you post, the restrictions to access of guns was the least important factor in extermination. Do you really think if the Jews had guns in their homes their fate would have drastically changed in the third Reich? However, I will keep an open mind if you can point to an example of what you have referenced.

Wordslinger wrote:What in hell has that to do with the NRA willingly being used by Russia to funnel illegal campaign funds to the Trump campaign?

Ya'll are wasting your time trying to debate with or educate either PkrBoy or ConservaLoony. They are, like most racists, none-too-bright and impervious to reason. They're controlled by their Lizard or Reptillian Brain as opposed to normal humans who use the Neocortex to learn things and make decisions.

It turns out Russia used the NRA to funnel money to the Trump Campaign! Reptillian-brain

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