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Trump campaign's Russia ties: Who's involved

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/trump-russia/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_russiaties-1239pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.6bbfbd34b3c0

Here’s what we know so far about Team Trump’s ties to Russian interests

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Who is ‘Source D’? The man said to be behind the Trump-Russia dossier’s most salacious claim.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/who-is-source-d-the-man-said-to-be-behind-the-trump-russia-dossiers-most-salacious-claim/2017/03/29/379846a8-0f53-11e7-9d5a-a83e627dc120_story.html?utm_term=.1da4127bc502



FBI probing whether Trump aides helped Russian intel in early 2016


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-probing-whether-trump-aides-helped-russian-intel-in-early-2016/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab8a&linkId=36077589

"CBS News has learned that U.S. investigators are looking into whether Trump campaign representatives had a role in helping Russian intelligence as it carried out cyberattacks on the Democratic National Committee and other political targets in March 2016.

This new information suggests that the FBI is going back further than originally reported to determine the extent of possible coordination. Sources say investigators are probing whether an individual or individuals connected to the campaign intentionally or unwittingly helped the Russians breach Democratic Party targets..."

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PkrBum

PkrBum

Do you remember when Obama was held accountable?

Ya... me either.

Telstar

Telstar

PkrBum wrote:Do you remember when Obama was held accountable?

Ya... me either.



The concerns of steroid abusers are so yesterday. Laughing

del.capslock

del.capslock

PkrBum wrote:Do you remember when Obama was held accountable?

Ya... me either.


From The American Conservative magazine:

"So yes, Obama really did run a scandal-free administration."

Again.

Do you have some sort of mental impairment or learning disability? If so, please let us know so we can make allowances and account for your apparent imbecility.

Really, PkrBoy, are you incapable of writing real content? Just sit on the sidelines like a girly-man cheerleader hurling invective at the actual players?

Man up, sissy boy.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/btraven/

PkrBum

PkrBum

It's worrisome really... that useful idiots can just erase recent events when they run contrary to messaging.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/judge-rejects-obamas-executive-privilege-claim-over-fast-and-furious-records-217970

https://www.google.com/amp/twitchy.com/sd-3133/2017/02/14/judicial-watch-newly-released-docs-offer-further-proof-obama-admin-lied-about-benghazi/amp/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Department_of_Justice_investigations_of_reporters

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jan/10/jake-tapper/cnns-tapper-obama-has-used-espionage-act-more-all-/

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/obama-has-sentenced-whistleblowers-to-31-times-the-jail-time-of-all-prior-u-s-presidents-combined.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2016/01/20/irs-wipes-another-hard-drive-defying-court-order-but-you-must-keep-tax-records/#706f66475b26

https://www.aclu.org/video/aclu-ccr-lawsuit-american-boy-killed-us-drone-strike

del.capslock

del.capslock

PkrBum wrote:It's worrisome really... that useful idiots can just erase recent events when they run contrary to messaging.

http://www.   blah...   blah....   blah...   .com


And yet Obama finished two terms with a high approval rating and Trump, only 70 days into his first term, is at what 36, 38%?

Every administration has a bunch of crap like but none of that stuff rose to the level of administration-damaging scandal the way Watergate or even Iran/Contra did. Even Clinton after Monica had higher approval ratings than Trump.

Twitchy.com--I'd be ashamed to admit I ever heard of that site much less post it on the internet. That sort of thing might account for your apparent diminished intellectual capacity. Have you looked into applying for disability?

Pathetic.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/btraven/

PkrBum

PkrBum

del.capslock wrote:
PkrBum wrote:It's worrisome really... that useful idiots can just erase recent events when they run contrary to messaging.

http://www.   blah...   blah....   blah...   .com


And yet Obama finished two terms with a high approval rating and Trump, only 70 days into his first term, is at what 36, 38%?

Every administration has a bunch of crap like but none of that stuff rose to the level of administration-damaging scandal the way Watergate or even Iran/Contra did. Even Clinton after Monica had higher approval ratings than Trump.

Twitchy.com--I'd be ashamed to admit I ever heard of that site much less post it on the internet. That sort of thing might account for your apparent diminished intellectual capacity. Have you looked into applying for disability?

Pathetic.

That article summarized and linked to the direct documents that were acquired through foia suits.

Here's another record Obama broke. So until you use ONE set of standards... I'll keep pointing it out.

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/wireStory/obamas-final-year-us-spent-36-million-records-46112564

The Obama administration in its final year in office spent a record $36.2 million on legal costs defending its refusal to turn over federal records under the Freedom of Information Act, according to an Associated Press analysis of new U.S. data that also showed poor performance in other categories measuring transparency in government.

For a second consecutive year, the Obama administration set a record for times federal employees told citizens, journalists and others that despite searching they couldn't find a single page of files that were requested.

And it set records for outright denial of access to files, refusing to quickly consider requests described as especially newsworthy, and forcing people to pay for records who had asked the government to waive search and copy fees.

The government acknowledged when challenged that it had been wrong to initially refuse to turn over all or parts of records in more than one-third of such cases, the highest rate in at least six years.

del.capslock

del.capslock

PkrBum wrote:

The Obama administration in its final year in office spent a record $36.2 million on legal costs defending its refusal to turn over federal records under the Freedom of Information Act, according to an Associated Press analysis of new U.S. data that also showed poor performance in other categories measuring transparency in government.

For a second consecutive year, the Obama administration set a record for times federal employees told citizens, journalists and others that despite searching they couldn't find a single page of files that were requested.

And it set records for outright denial of access to files, refusing to quickly consider requests described as especially newsworthy, and forcing people to pay for records who had asked the government to waive search and copy fees.

The government acknowledged when challenged that it had been wrong to initially refuse to turn over all or parts of records in more than one-third of such cases, the highest rate in at least six years.



So what's your point? How do you explain this outrage? How do you explain the fact that no one cares? How did this happen? Why is life unfair?

You might consider the fact that Obama's no longer the President and you're starting to sound like a sniveling little bitch.

Wah-hee-wah-hee, it's not fair! Boo-hoo-hoo!

Of course it's not fair, life's unfair.

Man up, sissy boy.

You conservatives are all crybabies at heart.

Pathetic.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/btraven/

PkrBum

PkrBum

What's pathetic is the leftists thinking that they'll get any satisfaction with their protestations...

and then wailing and wondering why. Lol... a total lack of contextual, situational, and self awareness.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:... a total lack of contextual, situational, and self awareness.

Far out ...

... that's is an astoundingly apt description of practically every post you've ever made to this forum.

del.capslock

del.capslock

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:... a total lack of contextual, situational, and self awareness.

Far out ...

... that's is an astoundingly apt description of practically every post you've ever made to this forum.


YEAH! What he said!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/btraven/

PkrBum

PkrBum

Ya... cause one is your messiah... and the other is the boogeyman. Break out the coloring books.

Telstar

Telstar

PkrBum wrote:Ya... cause one is your messiah... and the other is the boogeyman. Break out the coloring books.




Need any more reasons to stop abusing steroids?

Trump campaign's Russia ties: Who's involved Trump_19

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Add Blackwater troops for hire founder Erik Prince to 45's long list of connections with Russia.

And now the Trump-Russia connections include notorious Blackwater founder Erik Prince.

The United Arab Emirates arranged a secret meeting in January between Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a Russian close to President Vladi­mir Putin as part of an apparent effort to establish a back-channel line of communication between Moscow and President-elect Donald Trump, according to U.S., European and Arab officials. [...]
Though Prince had no formal role with the Trump campaign or transition team, he presented himself as an unofficial envoy for Trump to high-ranking Emiratis involved in setting up his meeting with the Putin confidant, according to the officials, who did not identify the Russian.
The talks took place in the Seychelles islands about a week before the inauguration, were held over two days, and apparently were meant to explore whether the two sides could come to an arrangement over Iran and Syria. But while in January Prince was giving the impression of being Trump's "unofficial envoy", now that the meeting's come to light his spokesman is angrily revising that notion.



http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/3/1649878/-Blackwater-founder-Erik-Prince-met-Russian-officials-in-January-as-unofficial-envoy-for-Trump#view-story

RealLindaL



Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:... a total lack of contextual, situational, and self awareness.

Far out ...

... that's is an astoundingly apt description of practically every post you've ever made to this forum.

cheers cheers cheers cheers

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

othershoe1030 wrote:Add Blackwater troops for hire founder Erik Prince to 45's long list of connections with Russia.

And now the Trump-Russia connections include notorious Blackwater founder Erik Prince.

The United Arab Emirates arranged a secret meeting in January between Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a Russian close to President Vladi­mir Putin as part of an apparent effort to establish a back-channel line of communication between Moscow and President-elect Donald Trump, according to U.S., European and Arab officials. [...]
Though Prince had no formal role with the Trump campaign or transition team, he presented himself as an unofficial envoy for Trump to high-ranking Emiratis involved in setting up his meeting with the Putin confidant, according to the officials, who did not identify the Russian.
The talks took place in the Seychelles islands about a week before the inauguration, were held over two days, and apparently were meant to explore whether the two sides could come to an arrangement over Iran and Syria. But while in January Prince was giving the impression of being Trump's "unofficial envoy", now that the meeting's come to light his spokesman is angrily revising that notion.



http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/3/1649878/-Blackwater-founder-Erik-Prince-met-Russian-officials-in-January-as-unofficial-envoy-for-Trump#view-story

Erik Prince...Betsy DeVos's brother.

RealLindaL



othershoe1030 wrote:But while in January Prince was giving the impression of being Trump's "unofficial envoy", now that the meeting's come to light his spokesman is angrily revising that notion.

....which, of course, should surprise absolutely no one.  

One has to wonder -- listening, for instance, to encouraging words about the Senate Intelligence Committee's proceeding with interviews on the Russia matter  -- whether or not anyone, under oath or otherwise, feels the least compelled any more to tell the truth.  Top down, lies seem to have become the new normal.  And who among us, including the investigative committees and even the FBI, will ever be able to sort it all out -- truth from fiction, wheat from chaff, reality from alternative facts?  

Distressing is too mild a word.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

RealLindaL wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:But while in January Prince was giving the impression of being Trump's "unofficial envoy", now that the meeting's come to light his spokesman is angrily revising that notion.

....which, of course, should surprise absolutely no one.  

One has to wonder -- listening, for instance, to encouraging words about the Senate Intelligence Committee's proceeding with interviews on the Russia matter  -- whether or not anyone, under oath or otherwise, feels the least compelled any more to tell the truth.  Top down, lies seem to have become the new normal.  And who among us, including the investigative committees and even the FBI, will ever be able to sort it all out -- truth from fiction, wheat from chaff, reality from alternative facts?  

Distressing is too mild a word.

Nauseating? Abominable? Revolting?

PkrBum

PkrBum

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/susan-rice-asked-for-unmasking-for-national-security-source-says/

tick tick tick

Telstar

Telstar

PkrBum wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/susan-rice-asked-for-unmasking-for-national-security-source-says/

tick tick tick



Tick tick tick

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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

PkrBum wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/susan-rice-asked-for-unmasking-for-national-security-source-says/

tick tick tick

BOOM!

So what? another attempt at deflection. This tactic is so widespread that talk of shinny objects, smoke and mirrors is part of the daily comments on Anything having to do with the Trump/Russia investigation. Trump/Russia CONNECTIONS  have sprouted up like crabgrass with more being unearthed every day.

Have you seen the report about Carter Page confirming that he'd given information to two Russian spies in 2013?

With all these ties to the Russians it is amazing to me why 45 hasn't been put in an isolation cell already. Seriously, I mean can any of you imagine what the Republican reaction to a story even 1/100th as ugly as this would have been if Obama had been the president?

Here we have a WH who doesn't care about vetting their people. It cannot possibly be some sort of cosmic coincidence that there just happens to be people in the administration with ties of some sort to Russia. No one would believe that, would they? So did Putin pick them? Is this his payback for the election help?

On some occasions, the official added, it is necessary to know the identity of U.S. persons in order to understand the context and substance of the intelligence. There is nothing improper, unusual or political about such requests.

del.capslock

del.capslock

I'm starting to feel guilty about picking on poor PokeHerBum. He's obviously a mental defective with a very tenuous grasp of reality and it's starting to feel like kicking a three-legged dog or something.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/btraven/

Telstar

Telstar

del.capslock wrote:I'm starting to feel guilty about picking on poor PokeHerBum. He's obviously a mental defective with a very tenuous grasp of reality and it's starting to feel like kicking a three-legged dog or something.


He's a prick on wheels. Tried to have a couple of people banned from the forum but whined like a castrated snowflake when the paid spammer from Tallahassee was banned. Sometimes he's good for dopey forum fun like the time he started a poll to have the administrator replaced. The administrator just played along and laughed when dumbell Pkr demanded he step aside and allow the top vote getter replace him. Funny stuff.

PkrBum

PkrBum

othershoe1030 wrote:
PkrBum wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/susan-rice-asked-for-unmasking-for-national-security-source-says/

tick tick tick

BOOM!

So what? another attempt at deflection. This tactic is so widespread that talk of shinny objects, smoke and mirrors is part of the daily comments on Anything having to do with the Trump/Russia investigation. Trump/Russia CONNECTIONS  have sprouted up like crabgrass with more being unearthed every day.

Have you seen the report about Carter Page confirming that he'd given information to two Russian spies in 2013?

With all these ties to the Russians it is amazing to me why 45 hasn't been put in an isolation cell already. Seriously, I mean can any of you imagine what the Republican reaction to a story even 1/100th as ugly as this would have been if Obama had been the president?

Here we have a WH who doesn't care about vetting their people. It cannot possibly be some sort of cosmic coincidence that there just happens to be people in the administration with ties of some sort to Russia. No one would believe that, would they? So did Putin pick them? Is this his payback for the election help?

On some occasions, the official added, it is necessary to know the identity of U.S. persons in order to understand the context and substance of the intelligence. There is nothing improper, unusual or political about such requests.

Ok... the Russia/trump thing has credibly... but the political creation of the issue does not?

If there were definite proof of Russian infiltration don't you think it would've been used to invalidate the election? The intelligence agencies are there for that. What happened was a leak before the election of the talkingpoint... it's snowballed now that you've lost the election. The leak was a political tactic.

del.capslock

del.capslock

PkrBum wrote:


Ok... the Russia/trump thing has credibly... but the political creation of the issue does not?

If there were definite proof of Russian infiltration don't you think it would've been used to invalidate the election? The intelligence agencies are there for that. What happened was a leak before the election of the talkingpoint... it's snowballed now that you've lost the election. The leak was a political tactic.

So what? What difference does that make? We're here, it's now. The reason this criminal wrongdoing was exposed doesn't matter.

DUH!

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