2017 NFL football

Hallmarkgard wrote:My son and his work people are going to the Bears game tonight.  The owner of the company picks up the tab...400 dollar tickets...Damn  

My team Won Sunday, but I am very Unhappy with how they are playing. The crowd was screaming WE want Moore, not we want more.
I want Matt Moore too. I've seen enough of Jay Cutler for this lifetime.

Now the despicable Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is threatening to bench any players that he feels are disrespecting the flag. It doesn't matter that their motive has nothing to do with disrespect for the flag, He's power mad and intends to inflict his beliefs on them or they don't play.He needs to paint his face black and ride around in his Caddy one day, just to see how many minutes it is before he's stopped by some Dallas cop. He doesn't have a clue what his team members have faced when they were growing up.
As a lifelong Cowboy hater and also a Jerry Jones hater, I'm not in the least surprised by his repulsive behavior. He's always been a creepy crawly thing.

I want Matt Moore too. I've seen enough of Jay Cutler for this lifetime.

Now you are going to see what Jay is all about.....three great games......two bad games......three great games. End of season he will be in the top 12 QBs in the league and hard to let go of.........

Well, he had a decent second half today and they managed to pull out a game over the Atlanta Falcons. I have to admit, I honestly thought there was no way they could win against the Falcons in Atlanta. They were 13 1/2 point underdogs. It was more Jay Ajaii's running that got the win, but Cutler was not horrible the second half. Not horrible just isn't a good recommendation for an NFL QB though. I'd still rather have had Matt Moore play.

Okay, so Cutler had my dolphins behind again in the third quarter but he still had a good QB rating for the game. All I can figure is he gets credit for all those short passes to the outside where the receiver is tackled immediately. That happened several times in the first half. Then, about mid third quarter the jets were looking unbeatable with a two TD lead and Miami looked asleep. Cutler gets sacked and damages a couple of ribs, so Adam Gase is forced to play Matt Moore. As soon as Moore entered the game both the offence and the defense looked like world beaters.They scored 17 points, the jets couldn't even get a field goal, and Miami came up with the win. It was like two entirely different games. Even the crowd seemed like a whole different group of people as soon as Moore hit the field.
But 3 weeks from now, when woeful Jay Cutler's ribs feel better, the coach will put him back in because the two are buddies. It's sickening to think of. At least I can enjoy the next 3 weeks knowing Miami's best QB is in the game. And I expect them to win. I never expected any wins from Cutler.

QB controversies were the rule with Cutler. He always won in the end because he is actually better than 2/3s of the QBs in a normal season.

The bears won easily as Cam is not the same Cam. The bears are rated top five defense in the NFL and that wins games. The young rookie qb with no receivers seems to be hooking up with the backs and tight ends to make up the difference with no receivers worth a damn.

Miami's offensive line hasn't been the greatest in several years now, and Cutler just seems too slow on his feet to create his own passing lanes. Any QB in Miami has to be able to scramble because he isn't going to get much protection. High QB ratings are fine but points on the board are what count. Guess I'll have to be patient and see how the season goes. I expect exciting games the next two weeks with Matt Moore throwing the ball though. He doesn't waste time getting the ball out to his receivers. No, Cam isn't the same QB he was a couple of seasons ago, you're right about that. There are several teams that are really flopping this year that no one would have expected. The Patriots aren't as scary as they used to be either.

It was very strange coverage of Monday Night Football.  I have been watching football games for fifty plus years, and I never heard such an effort to single out a player and praise that player for his belief in Jesus Christ our savior.  Football is under attack from the far right as basically having black thugs playing who show no respect to the military.  Jon Gruden who is an excellent broadcaster with great knowledge of the game, repeatedly talked about the QBs religious beliefs.   I just seemed so forced and manipulative.  The old god, family, and football of the SEC has given Pro Football a pass, but to pander to that element on national tv was offensive to me.  I believe in Christ, but when this is manipulated to try to capture some audience back into the broadcasts, it is the pinnacle of hypocrisy.  I just do not get it.  The NFL is running scared that the racism which has become the backbone of the Trump administration is in full attack mode on the NFL and a little god and Jesus will stop the declining viewership.   Nope.  Monday night coverage was awful and obvious.  Stop it.

Good grief... it was in regards to the death of his grandmother the night before. They discussed the fact his dad is a minister and the entire family is religious. Quit making it out to be something else.

I stand by my comments. It was inappropriate.

I didn't see it but I imagine I would agree with you seaoat. Number one, Christianity is not the only religion practiced in this country. And of all the things that do not belong on a football field, prayers and fingers pointed to the sky are at the top of my list. First of all, if God really cares about those guys on the football field on Sunday more than he does about the people in Puerto Rico, his sights have gone way off. Also, it's a sport where young men risk the safety of their BRAINS, of all things, for fame and money and love of the game. From recent statistics, none of them get out of the game without some form of permanent damage. And for the love of God, literally, anyone who prays for their team to win a game ought to be sent into the Peace Corps for a couple of years to learn what is really important in life.
And this comes from somebody that hasn't missed a Dolphins game in 40 years, either on radio or TV, and who watched them play the Eagles the same Sunday afternoon that they buried my dad. So I am a serious fan.
But I also know what is important in life and it truly is not football.

I was shocked. It was outright pandering, and subtle it was not. The owners are scared to death. I am certain that we have not seen the end to this. I am sick of the militarization of our society, and I went to NFL games for thirty plus years without seeing these military demonstrations. Football has nothing to do with a particular religion, or the military. I am so tired of where this country is going.

Dolphins It appears that Cutler was not the problem. This happens all the time with Cutler. He makes teams better than they really are, but he gets blamed that they suck until he goes down with an injury. Then people realize....it is not Cutler who has the problem.

The Dolphin's coach went ballistic on the offensive team not knowing his offense. It appears that folks are not buying into it. When he was with the Bears, the offense did pretty good, but the defense was MIA. It will be interesting what will happen if they lose another game like the 40-0 asz kicking.

Gruden took some heat on talk radio and tonight has not done any of that religious stuff. I saw an article making fun of Gruden hanging out with the "blue shirts and khaki pants" insinuating NFL influence on his broadcast. People love football. He does a great job on specific plays and strategies, but really was way out of bounds carrying the water for the blue shirts last week who are trying to neutralize criticism from a very specific audience who has been offended by the protests..

Well, Miami just destroyed the rest of this season. They traded Jay Ajaii to the Eagles because the coach had a hissy fit and decided to punish his own team. Gase has to go-that is NOT how you coach an NFL team, by making your players hate your guts.
At least I know now that it's Gase who is the problem. I hope the owners realize it very soon and are willing to put out some big bucks for a seasoned, proven NFL coach instead of going for a rookie. It may be the end of the season before he's fired, but I feel sure it will happen. And now they will have to rebuild the whole team because Gase is ripping it apart.
Miami's owners are stupid though. They've had a chance at some great coaches before and weren't willing to pay for them. They could have had Peyton Manning the last year he won the super bowl too, but nobody would open their purse strings. It ain't easy being a Dolphins fan, but my only other choice is being a Saints fan, and they break people's hearts too.

The dolphins will be in the playoffs with Cutler.

Well, that would be nice. It will have to be all on the passing game though, I don't even know the names of their second string RB's.
If Cutler gets them to the playoffs, I will definitely congratulate you on your powers to predict.
For now I just hope you are right.

They still have two games against the Bills, and the panthers and tampa which are four games they could win. The Oakland game will be critical, and I do not know if Cutler is ready. However, with KC, and two games against New England remaining with the Broncos thrown in for more trouble, they are going to have to win at least one against those four teams. Nine wins gets them the wild card.

The Lions have a legitimate run for a playoff spot this year. They looked good against Green Bay.

2seaoat wrote:The Lions have a legitimate run for a playoff spot this year.  They looked good against Green Bay.

I really wish you hadn't said that... but their second half of the season is much easier than the first half. Even the four losses were close and against probable playoff teams. But I don't like to look too far ahead. Stafford is really on his game and the receivers are starting to really shine. Our run game is a bit of a concern... but that should loosen up if Stafford can keep making completions against the blitz.

I am just saying the Bears and Green Bay are not going to catch the lions. The vikings with their great defense probably will take the central, but a playoff spot is almost guaranteed with their soft schedule. I now actually get to watch a thanksgiving game which might actually mean something.

Well, the Dolphins lost again. They scored a few points this game but they were playing against the Raiders. I don't see them winning as much as 2 more games this year. I think they might beat Tampa Bay and that will be it.  They will lose badly to Carolina this week and won't be able to beat either New England, the Bills, or Denver. Best scenario I see is a 5-11 season. At any rate, 9-7 in the AFC lately hasn't been enough to get a team into the playoffs.
But, I can still hope you are right.

I doubt Gase will be fired over a 5-11 season. I'm already depressed about that

I will watch the Bears this afternoon, but after seeing the brain scans of the ex patriot hernandez, it is hard to get excited about a hard hit. I am now fully informed that my viewing the game I am supporting a sport that injures the brains of young players with a life time of pain and suffering including the family and friends of those players as they decline. The Bears funky qb McMahanon got a dui in Navarre about a decade ago so he was always self medicating, but his wife now has to write down where he will go during the day on his phone which he has to check constantly because he cannot remember.........the scan leaves no doubt in my mind that Costas is right.....the NFL and all of football is in trouble.

The Bears gave away another game, as it is becoming clear that they have a ranked defense, top 3 runner, and a rookie qb who is growing each week. However, when I saw all the military garb on the Bear sideline, it is enough for me to quit following the NFL. I do not like the safety issues facing football, but this pandering to the fascist state and the militarization of America......WTF......Enough Can we not just enjoy the joy of the game in a safe environment? No the fascist state has to squash dissent, change the message, and goose step with larger military presence, bigger flags, and more military. Just like the four police officers who surround coaches in the SEC which has now sadly spread across America as the coach from a small college in Iowa has policeman surrounding him.......when did Americans get so scared.