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AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE: Seven key Nazis and their links to Putin & Trump

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Joanimaroni
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Floridatexan

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"The past bloody weekend in Charlottesville shows that Donald Trump’s “alt-right” supporters are — wait for it — actual Nazis. Anyone marching among Swastikas no longer gets a pass for worn-out platitudes about southern heritage. President Trump’s defense of their rally shows that he is taking their side. The Nazi side.

Really, no one should be too surprised — he’s been telling us who he is for a very long time. Like in the 1990 Vanity Fair profile revealing that he kept by his bedside — and read — a book of Hitler’s speeches called My New Order. (See, he does read).

But there’s something deeper here, something worth getting surprised about — and like so many things with Donald Trump, that deeper thing is Russia: several of the key figures who organized, appeared at, or promoted the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” Rally have strong ties to Moscow.

Business Insider first turned me onto this last December with a story called: A model for civilization': Putin's Russia has emerged as 'a beacon for nationalists' and the American alt-right . I took their reporting and expanded it with my own research connecting the dots between Trump and the neo-Nazis that Business Insider profiled. I’m now adding relevant details about those behind the Charlottesville Unite the Right Rally..."


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/18/1689526/-AFTER-CHARLOTTESVILLE-Seven-key-Nazis-and-their-links-to-Putin-amp-Trump

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni


The ginned up hatred, created by the Democrats, is nothing more than a political power play to paint all white people as Nazis. The motive is to match the news media description of Trump as a Nazi, hoping votes will flow back to the liberal party. The party of hate and lies. People falling for their propaganda are tools.

PkrBum

PkrBum

I think at the base of this narrative is the desire to wash communism of it's failures and homicide. Mao, Lenin, and Stalin killed way more people through it's ideology. I don't think the difference between it and fascism is historically significant. It's authoritarian dictatorship with some grand collectivist design. The result being pain and suffering for the powerless masses. It's lunacy to shift that blame to political opponents in our country... a political trick for leftist consumption. Why the leftists/liberals fall for this shit is the issue... who would really want socialism given its history? Nobody with a clear head... that's for sure.

zsomething



Joanimaroni wrote:
The ginned up hatred, created by the Democrats, is nothing more than a political power play to paint all white people as Nazis. The motive is to match the news media description of Trump as a Nazi, hoping votes will flow back to the liberal party. The party of hate and lies. People falling for their propaganda are tools.

Who's trying to paint all white people as Nazis? I'm only trying to paint Nazis as Nazis.

I am a white person. A majority of the people who were protesting against the white supremacists are white. Most of Antifa are white. None of those people are Nazis. (Well, PkrBoy thinks Antifa are Nazis, but PkrBoy's so stupid it's likely he also thinks his bodily waste is a plaything, so I wouldn't regard anything he says too much).

Honestly, nobody's demonizing white people. If you think somebody's trying to make you feel guilty or something, maybe you're sympathizing with the wrong white folks, because nobody's getting faulted here but the dudes carrying torches and screaming "Jews will not replace us!" and "Blood and soil!" and waving swastika flags. And I don't think anybody owes those guys any apologies for calling 'em Nazis. I mean, if you seig-heil things, that's not exactly a case of mistaken identity.

Really, if you're getting "somebody's trying to portray all white people as Nazis" out of this, you may wanna cut back on the substances. You might even start seeing tennis shoes where there aren't any...

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

zsomething wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
The ginned up hatred, created by the Democrats, is nothing more than a political power play to paint all white people as Nazis. The motive is to match the news media description of Trump as a Nazi, hoping votes will flow back to the liberal party. The party of hate and lies. People falling for their propaganda are tools.

Who's trying to paint all white people as Nazis?  I'm only trying to paint Nazis as Nazis.

I am a white person.  A majority of the people who were protesting against the white supremacists are white.  Most of Antifa are white.  None of those people are Nazis.  (Well, PkrBoy thinks Antifa are Nazis, but PkrBoy's so stupid it's likely he also thinks his bodily waste is a plaything, so I wouldn't regard anything he says too much).

Honestly, nobody's demonizing white people.  If you think somebody's trying to make you feel guilty or something, maybe you're sympathizing with the wrong white folks, because nobody's getting faulted here but the dudes carrying torches and screaming "Jews will not replace us!" and "Blood and soil!" and waving swastika flags.  And I don't think anybody owes those guys any apologies for calling 'em Nazis.  I mean, if you seig-heil things, that's not exactly a case of mistaken identity.

Really, if you're getting "somebody's trying to portray all white people as Nazis" out of this, you may wanna cut back on the substances.   You might even start seeing tennis shoes where there aren't any...



Substance abuse, bodily waste....grow up.




The reference was to republican Trump supporters. During Obama's 8 years we were referred to as racists....now we are Nazis. But you knew that when you commented.

zsomething



PkrBum wrote:I think at the base of this narrative is the desire to wash communism of it's failures and homicide. Mao, Lenin, and Stalin killed way more people through it's ideology. I don't think the difference between it and fascism is historically significant. It's authoritarian dictatorship with some grand collectivist design. The result being pain and suffering for the powerless masses. It's lunacy to shift that blame to political opponents in our country... a political trick for leftist consumption. Why the leftists/liberals fall for this shit is the issue... who would really want socialism given its history? Nobody with a clear head... that's for sure.

Who's defending Communism?   Fuck communism.  It's a failed system that gets horrible, nightmarish results.  Who's denying any of that?  Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, all horrible creators of mass death.  I know lots of Democrats and I don't know a single one who wants Communism.

You also seem to equate Democrats with Socialists.  Now, I know a few Dems who lean toward socialism, but socialism and Communism aren't the same thing by a long shot.  And most I know aren't wanting any extreme version of socialism.  But, in any case, not all Dems are socialist, either.  That's why Bernie didn't win.  I'm not big on socialism.  Really, I'm mostly a centrist.  I'm fine with smaller government (as long as it's effective), I'm good with the death penalty (in fact, I'd like to expand it to cover rapists and child abusers), I'm in favor of gun control but I have firearms and will buy more.   I think Bernie had nice ideas but was full of shit about how they could be implemented.

You seem to think everybody who's not on your side is Josef Stalin.  And this is only one of the many areas where you're just as dumb-as-hammered-shit, and why you get the bad reaction you get.   It's part of the reason I gave up on trying to be nice to you even though you swear you're a good-natured guy and we both have great cats and all that.   Even though you're tiresomely stupid and having you around is like putting up with a loud child at the table while adults are talking, I tried to play along with you for a while to be polite.  Then you wore me out with all this "comrade" shit, making it clear you wanted things to be at an adversarial level.  I'm an accommodating bastard -- you make clear to me how you want to be treated, and I'll damn sure treat you that way.   The Nazi-apologist junk was the last straw, I have zero tolerance for that shit, so I just gave up on treating you with any respect.  You're determined to be a asshole, so, fine, I'll help you.  And, it's better that way -- I get less disappointed and I don't have to bust my ass trying to find good in someone who, honestly, doesn't have much.

But, yeah, Republicans aren't disliked because everyone else is a "Communist."   People don't like you for a lot of reasons.  Here's just a few:

- when white supremacists show up with swastika flags and machine guns, running over people, you give them a pass and complain instead about the people resisting them.   And THEN you get mad if people think you're racist.  What else are people supposed to think, given your behavior?  Spotting Nazis as the bad guys is not difficult!  Just fucking once I'd like to see ya'll say, "Yeah, it's wrong to terrorize non-white races that way, and we're going to stand with you to put an end to it."  But you don't.    For some reason, us hating Nazis makes you defensive.  Like Joani up there, saying "they want to paint all white people as Nazis."  Why would you even think some ridiculous horseshit like that unless you're sympathizing, somehow, with the white supremacists more than you do the people they're victimizing?  That's just weird to me.  I don't think every Republican is a racist, I know for a fact that many aren't... but some of ya'll, man, you make it really difficult to cut you slack when you get so defensive about a bunch of fucking goose-steppers and say the people resisting them are the real bad guys.  Nazis terrorized a town with torches, automatic weapons, Hitler-era slogans, and they murdered a woman and hospitalized a bunch of others...  and all I've heard from right-wingers since is "Antifa!"   And you don't realize how weird that is, that you see that situation and that's the enemy you picked.   I'm sorry if ya'll feel I'm being ungenerous with your feelings, but really, in this case, fuck you and your feelings.

- I don't really hate you for not understanding what it's like in this country for people who aren't just like you.  What I hate you for is knowing that even if you did understand it, you wouldn't care.  You basically want to be selfish assholes and have everyone view that as "okay."  It's not okay.  And nobody's doing you a favor by helping you get away with that.


- ya'll constantly talk about the Jesus shit whenever there's anything you don't like -- gays being with who they like or women making their own decisions or people wanting to learn science or whatever -- but when it comes to actually acting like Jesus... ya'll not only don't do it, you sneer at those who do.  "Social Justice Warriors."  You hate 'em.  If Jesus came back you'd call him a hippie faggot and cheer for Ann Coulter while she mocked him.  You're all about "freedom" until somebody uses it for something that makes you feel icky, and then it's back to full-on authoritarianism.  I don't believe in your religion, but I'm not the one who wrecked it -- you did.  


-  your policies do not work and its absolutely provable by looking at the states who elect the most conservatives... and you won't acknowledge it because you don't care.  You're brainwashed and you want to be brainwashed.  You don't want to make things better... you just want to "piss off the libtards."  And that's it.


- and, yeah, you think everybody who's not with you is a "Commie."  That simple-mindedness gets tiresome.  It never  occurs to you that there are a whole lot of reasons for not picking your side.    Honestly, every year there's less and less room in your party for anybody but   far-right idiots.   I'm not a Democrat because I love Democrats.  I don't.  I'm a Democrat because I only have two real choices, and one of 'em is a complete non-starter.  You guys ran Trump.  If you don't see how embarrassing that is, not just for your party, but this country, then you're never gonna get it.  The Democratic party isn't just "the left" at this point -- it's also the only option for centrists.  And that's why I'm in it.  I'm not a Democrat because I love them... I'm a Democrat because I don't want to be one of you.  That would embarrass the shit out of me, being in a party that had Sarah Palin or Donald Trump as viable candidates, that believe FOX News's bullshit was true.  You're a joke at this point.  You're self-parody.  You're a non-option for anyone who likes to think.

So, talk about "Communists" all you want.  All you're doing is displaying your gross misunderstanding of what's actually going on.  You're fighting an enemy that doesn't exist, and it's driving you to support things you really shouldn't support.

That's real dumb, but, you're committed.

PkrBum

PkrBum

I'm just fighting fire with fire. As long as leftists use the cop out "racist" "Nazi" bs... I'll do the same...

comrade.

Oh... and if you can't the the central govt authority growing... you're either an idiot or programmed.

What y'all are really upset about is the other party in control of it... somewhat.

Telstar

Telstar

PkrBum wrote:I'm just fighting fire with fire. As long as leftists use the cop out "racist" "Nazi" bs... I'll do the same...

comrade.




Go right ahead we expect that from nazi drug abusers from Michigan.

zsomething



PkrBum wrote:I'm just fighting fire with fire. As long as leftists use the cop out "racist" "Nazi" bs... I'll do the same...

comrade.

The difference is, I'm not calling all right-wingers racists or Nazis.  I didn't  equate you with them until you started siding with the white supremacists over their victims.   I'm trying to have discussions, not just "get at you."    You aren't "fighting fire with fire," because you were doing that "comrade" shit a LONG time before I stopping giving you the benefit of the doubt on racism.  You were doing "comrade" before I ever showed up at this place, and you started doing it to me before you knew anything about me other than I voted Democrat.  So don't try to sell me that hogwash.  You ain't fighting back  against jack f. s. -- you're instigating, and you have been before I ever got here.   That's why I got fed up with you.


Oh... and if you can't the the central govt authority growing... you're either an idiot or programmed.

What y'all are really upset about is the other party in control of it... somewhat.

That's not really a sentence but I'll try to decipher what you're saying.  Look at what's happening.  Yeah, both parties grow the central government authority... but the Republicans grow it one HELL of a lot bigger and faster than the Democrats do.  Right now you have about as close to a full-blown authoritarian regime in the White House as America's ever had.  Fuck, dude, the guy just countermanded the court system and let convicted Joe Arpaio go before he even served time!   That ain't overstepping bounds to you?  

Republicans talk about shrinking the government, but they talk about a whole lot of shit, because they know their base is trained in church to believe what they're told rather than follow logic or reality.  They know as long as they say that's what they're for, you'll accept it and not look at what they're actually doing.  Even this Obama-hatin' TEA Party site admits Republicans grow government more.   And here's another link.   And there are plenty more.  

Republicans say that Democrats spend more.  They LIE.  They say that Democrats expand government more.  They LIE.  Republicans say they're better for the economy.  Oh my GOD do they LIE! They lie and lie and lie and you believe them because you've been trained, and because you hate Dems (to the point of thinking we're all Commies) so you are gonna run into the arms of the people who are really pissing on you.  And you don't question it.  You get mad if anybody asks you to.

Don't try to talk to me about government authority growing when you're defending the party that does the lion's share of that, and don't call me a fucking "comrade" when (A) your party is colluding with Russians and (B) "comrade" means "friend" and I ain't ya damn friend, bitch.

PkrBum

PkrBum

Don't get your panties in a bunch... the only thing I've defended is free speech.

While I detest the pubs growing govt... it's silly to think dems don't... to whatever degree.

See: Obamacaid... the largest fascist collusion between govt and industry in our history. Also see ndaa.

Try to focus and scale down the emotions. Just look at results. Both parties advance statism.

PkrBum

PkrBum

“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts. The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.

“In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech. Non-violence is fundamental to that right. Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.” Nancy Pelosi... believe it or not. If SHE can think rationally (if just on this)... so can everyone. Violence can't be tolerated... period.

Telstar

Telstar

PkrBum wrote:“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts. The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.

“In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech. Non-violence is fundamental to that right. Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.”   Nancy Pelosi... believe it or not. If SHE can think rationally (if just on this)... so can everyone. Violence can't be tolerated... period.




NEVER AGAIN


Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Liberal party of hate and violence.

Telstar

Telstar

Joanimaroni wrote:Liberal party of hate and violence.






Conservative party of racism and nazism.

Guest


Guest

Floridatexan wrote:
"The past bloody weekend in Charlottesville shows that Donald Trump’s “alt-right” supporters are — wait for it — actual Nazis. Anyone marching among Swastikas no longer gets a pass for worn-out platitudes about southern heritage. President Trump’s defense of their rally shows that he is taking their side. The Nazi side.

Really, no one should be too surprised — he’s been telling us who he is for a very long time. Like in the 1990 Vanity Fair profile revealing that he kept by his bedside — and read — a book of Hitler’s speeches called My New Order. (See, he does read).

But there’s something deeper here, something worth getting surprised about — and like so many things with Donald Trump, that deeper thing is Russia: several of the key figures who organized, appeared at, or promoted the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” Rally have strong ties to Moscow.  

Business Insider first turned me onto this last December with a story called:   A model for civilization': Putin's Russia has emerged as 'a beacon for nationalists' and the American alt-right .  I took their reporting and expanded it with my own research connecting the dots between Trump and the neo-Nazis that Business Insider profiled. I’m now adding relevant details about those behind the Charlottesville Unite the Right Rally..."


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/18/1689526/-AFTER-CHARLOTTESVILLE-Seven-key-Nazis-and-their-links-to-Putin-amp-Trump


Antifa is a Dem construct. Antifa is pro socialist anti capitalist, like Dems. This is your group FT. You own it.


1) burn books and destroyed statues
2) violently limits free speech
3) smashed windows of businesses
4) euthanized babies that aren't ideal
5) uses mob tactics to intimidate opposition

Antifa - nazi - Democrats

One in the same. The Antifa flags are the same construct as nazi flags just changed around.

Deus X

Deus X

ALTLEFTCRIMINALS wrote: The Antifa flags are the same construct as nazi flags just changed around.

The same just changed around. This dipshit is so stupid he doesn't even understand the meaning of the word "same". What a dolt!

Hey, ALTLEFTPEDERAST: LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE!

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