Why wasn't this posted here? Single payer insurance defeated in Senate. Not one liberal voted for it.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/07/27/gamesmanship-republican-senator-to-introduce-amendment-to-force-dems-to-vote-on-single-payer-n2360523

Be careful for what you wish.....America is ready. Oh, and by the way....the Republicans could not pass a health care bill if they had ten more members.....you see.....they simply do not know what they are doing.

Did you see the cost of it and the approximations? 32 trillion over ten years. That's 3.2 trillion a year. Hell, the budget for the entire nation is just under 4 trillion. That isn't feasible unless we want to live in a third world crap hole like Cuba or Venezuela and we all know how bad that is now.

Those numbers are bogus. They are absurd. Americans live in the wealthiest nation in the world, and are currently providing health care based on premiums paid, or government subsidy. The idea that there would be no premium with medicare for all is not even well thought out.

Bernie used to argue on the Thom Hartman radio show that just with the public option where a bare bone non profit government policy competing with the insurance companies would drop rates significantly, and yes....if a person bought a policy from the public option not for profit company, they would pay premiums. It is absurd to believe that people in other countries who have government provided health care have no premiums beyond general revenue collected by government. Silly sophomoric argument.

NPAatall wrote:Did you see the cost of it and the approximations? 32 trillion over ten years. That's 3.2 trillion a year. Hell, the budget for the entire nation is just under 4 trillion. That isn't feasible unless we want to live in a third world crap hole like Cuba or Venezuela and we all know how bad that is now.  

You're a goddamn liar! The article actually says "Estimates suggest...", not to mention that Townhall is a right-wing extremist site that no reasonably intelligent person would cite. You're apparently not included in that group. You'd be in the "so dumb they couldn't find their own ass in a phone booth" group.

The worst thing is you're too stupid to realize it, you think everyone else is as "developmentally challenged" as you. Whatever it is you do for a living, I hope it doesn't involve anything more complicated than a shovel, otherwise your co-worker's lives would be in danger.

Skinny Obamacare repeal just failed, by the way at 01:01:49am 07.28.2017,  so screw you, you hillbilly asshat.

And they have so many more benefits in countries like France and Norway.

2seaoat wrote:Bernie used to argue on the Thom Hartman radio show that just with the public option where a bare bone non profit government policy competing with the insurance companies would drop rates significantly, and yes....if a person bought a policy from the public option not for profit company, they would pay premiums.  It is absurd to believe that people in other countries who have government provided health care have no premiums beyond general revenue collected by government.   Silly sophomoric argument.

Yeah and President Obama said, "if you want your doctor, you can keep your doctor and that the average person's insurance would not go up." We saw how that went. It was pure fantasy.

This is a few years old... but it's a broad measure of the european model. Universal coverage is redistributive and rationed by nature. Single payer healthcare isn't a magic elixir... it's a blank service... and it's scope won't end until it controls individual habits and societal norms. Yet dems accuse pubs of wanting in bedrooms... lol.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168851015001700

PkrBum wrote:This is a few years old... but it's a broad measure of the european model. Universal coverage is redistributive and rationed by nature. Single payer healthcare isn't a magic elixir... it's a blank service... and it's scope won't end until it controls individual habits and societal norms. Yet dems accuse pubs of wanting in bedrooms... lol.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168851015001700

How come y'all never mention that the ACA was modeled after Romney's plan in Massachusetts?

Your pathetic complaint about it being "redistributive" is utter bullshit. ALL taxes are redistributive, just as ALL laws regulate individual habits and social norms. DUH!

If you had to think... and I know that difficulty for you... would I support romnycare?

Don't care whose idea it is, we want good, affordable healthcare

If the GOP could come up with THAT for all Americans, they'd be heroes.
BUT

It literally never occurred to Republicans to come up with an actual BETTER healthcare bill.

7 years. Literally never occurred to them.
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