To diehard Trumpions, their leader can do no wrong. How should the left fight back?

IMASOCK wrote:And your opinion is worth about as much as the trash I am putting into the McDonald's trash basket as I am exiting now.

othershoe1030 wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

zsomething wrote:Honestly, a lot of Republicans are just cultists at this point.  To understand 'em, you have to read Eric Hoffer.  

You really can't reach the hardcore ones.  They've been trained like dogs, using old cult tactics.   They're taught that only the news sources favorable to them are "real," so anything with negative news is "false" and are trying to trick them.  They're under attack from everything.   Things are only "fair" if they're heavily slanted in their favor.  No matter how much they're running things or tromping over anyone else's rights, they're the "oppressed" ones.

It's like trying to talk sense to a scientologist.  You're not going to get far with it because they've got everything invested in their belief and will only fight you if you say anything that goes against their programming.  Any attempt to wise them up will only make you be viewed as more of a mistrusted enemy.

They're never going to see the truth about Trump because they're too weak to admit they got duped.  They'll cling to their wrongness like grim death.  It sucks, but some people you just have to write off.

Says the guy who has a party at the bottom of the political spectrum watching
The last eight years of Obama get washed down the drain.

In your personal estimation the D's may be at the bottom of the political spectrum but Trump's current approval ratings are the lowest of any president in the last 70 years. That is not exactly stellar performance in anyone's book.

This administration is being run like a combination of the Keystone Cops and the pop-open doors from the old Laugh In show. Every time you turn around someone is coming up with another version of their alternate facts and everyone, including Fox News is noticing. Disorganized is too kind a term.

Wordslinger wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:And your opinion is worth about as much as the trash I am putting into the McDonald's trash basket as I am exiting now.

His opinion currently matches that of 60% of the electorate, dummy.

IMASOCK wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:And your opinion is worth about as much as the trash I am putting into the McDonald's trash basket as I am exiting now.

His opinion currently matches that of 60% of the electorate, dummy.

Seems like y'alls  polls are always wrong. Especially when it comes to voting. Ask Hillary.

IMASOCK wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

zsomething wrote:Honestly, a lot of Republicans are just cultists at this point.  To understand 'em, you have to read Eric Hoffer.  

You really can't reach the hardcore ones.  They've been trained like dogs, using old cult tactics.   They're taught that only the news sources favorable to them are "real," so anything with negative news is "false" and are trying to trick them.  They're under attack from everything.   Things are only "fair" if they're heavily slanted in their favor.  No matter how much they're running things or tromping over anyone else's rights, they're the "oppressed" ones.

It's like trying to talk sense to a scientologist.  You're not going to get far with it because they've got everything invested in their belief and will only fight you if you say anything that goes against their programming.  Any attempt to wise them up will only make you be viewed as more of a mistrusted enemy.

They're never going to see the truth about Trump because they're too weak to admit they got duped.  They'll cling to their wrongness like grim death.  It sucks, but some people you just have to write off.

Says the guy who has a party at the bottom of the political spectrum watching
The last eight years of Obama get washed down the drain.

In your personal estimation the D's may be at the bottom of the political spectrum but Trump's current approval ratings are the lowest of any president in the last 70 years. That is not exactly stellar performance in anyone's book.

This administration is being run like a combination of the Keystone Cops and the pop-open doors from the old Laugh In show. Every time you turn around someone is coming up with another version of their alternate facts and everyone, including Fox News is noticing. Disorganized is too kind a term.

That's your opinion because you disagree.  Democratic angst is having been rejected by America on their idea that big government is the answer and if those trump approval polls are like the ones you folks touted of a Hillary landslide last November, you're in big trouble as a party.

IMASOCK wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

zsomething wrote:Honestly, a lot of Republicans are just cultists at this point.  To understand 'em, you have to read Eric Hoffer.  

You really can't reach the hardcore ones.  They've been trained like dogs, using old cult tactics.   They're taught that only the news sources favorable to them are "real," so anything with negative news is "false" and are trying to trick them.  They're under attack from everything.   Things are only "fair" if they're heavily slanted in their favor.  No matter how much they're running things or tromping over anyone else's rights, they're the "oppressed" ones.

It's like trying to talk sense to a scientologist.  You're not going to get far with it because they've got everything invested in their belief and will only fight you if you say anything that goes against their programming.  Any attempt to wise them up will only make you be viewed as more of a mistrusted enemy.

They're never going to see the truth about Trump because they're too weak to admit they got duped.  They'll cling to their wrongness like grim death.  It sucks, but some people you just have to write off.

Says the guy who has a party at the bottom of the political spectrum watching
The last eight years of Obama get washed down the drain.

In your personal estimation the D's may be at the bottom of the political spectrum but Trump's current approval ratings are the lowest of any president in the last 70 years. That is not exactly stellar performance in anyone's book.

This administration is being run like a combination of the Keystone Cops and the pop-open doors from the old Laugh In show. Every time you turn around someone is coming up with another version of their alternate facts and everyone, including Fox News is noticing. Disorganized is too kind a term.

That's your opinion because you disagree.  Democratic angst is having been rejected by America on their idea that big government is the answer and if those trump approval polls are like the ones you folks touted of a Hillary landslide last November, you're in big trouble as a party.

Wordslinger wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

zsomething wrote:Honestly, a lot of Republicans are just cultists at this point.  To understand 'em, you have to read Eric Hoffer.  

You really can't reach the hardcore ones.  They've been trained like dogs, using old cult tactics.   They're taught that only the news sources favorable to them are "real," so anything with negative news is "false" and are trying to trick them.  They're under attack from everything.   Things are only "fair" if they're heavily slanted in their favor.  No matter how much they're running things or tromping over anyone else's rights, they're the "oppressed" ones.

It's like trying to talk sense to a scientologist.  You're not going to get far with it because they've got everything invested in their belief and will only fight you if you say anything that goes against their programming.  Any attempt to wise them up will only make you be viewed as more of a mistrusted enemy.

They're never going to see the truth about Trump because they're too weak to admit they got duped.  They'll cling to their wrongness like grim death.  It sucks, but some people you just have to write off.

Says the guy who has a party at the bottom of the political spectrum watching
The last eight years of Obama get washed down the drain.

In your personal estimation the D's may be at the bottom of the political spectrum but Trump's current approval ratings are the lowest of any president in the last 70 years. That is not exactly stellar performance in anyone's book.

This administration is being run like a combination of the Keystone Cops and the pop-open doors from the old Laugh In show. Every time you turn around someone is coming up with another version of their alternate facts and everyone, including Fox News is noticing. Disorganized is too kind a term.

That's your opinion because you disagree.  Democratic angst is having been rejected by America on their idea that big government is the answer and if those trump approval polls are like the ones you folks touted of a Hillary landslide last November, you're in big trouble as a party.

And with the republicans in both houses and with Trump reigning over all, the entire country is in BIG BIG TROUBLE, WORSE BY FAR THAN UNDER OBAMA.  Reality

del.capslock wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:Funny that the left feels this way. It's how the right felt under the oppressive Obama regime.

NO!, only the extreme, xenophobic, white-supremacist element  of the right felt that way.

I know plenty of lifelong Republicans--I grew up among them, two cousins were Goldwater advance men!--and none of them would have called the Obama administration oppressive or fascist. They didn't like Obama and they disagreed with his policies, but they also disagreed with the Freedom Caucus and Tea Party segments of their own party. They were intelligent, reasonable conservatives who understood the nature of democracy.

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IMASOCK wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

zsomething wrote:Honestly, a lot of Republicans are just cultists at this point.  To understand 'em, you have to read Eric Hoffer.  

You really can't reach the hardcore ones.  They've been trained like dogs, using old cult tactics.   They're taught that only the news sources favorable to them are "real," so anything with negative news is "false" and are trying to trick them.  They're under attack from everything.   Things are only "fair" if they're heavily slanted in their favor.  No matter how much they're running things or tromping over anyone else's rights, they're the "oppressed" ones.

It's like trying to talk sense to a scientologist.  You're not going to get far with it because they've got everything invested in their belief and will only fight you if you say anything that goes against their programming.  Any attempt to wise them up will only make you be viewed as more of a mistrusted enemy.

They're never going to see the truth about Trump because they're too weak to admit they got duped.  They'll cling to their wrongness like grim death.  It sucks, but some people you just have to write off.

Says the guy who has a party at the bottom of the political spectrum watching
The last eight years of Obama get washed down the drain.

In your personal estimation the D's may be at the bottom of the political spectrum but Trump's current approval ratings are the lowest of any president in the last 70 years. That is not exactly stellar performance in anyone's book.

This administration is being run like a combination of the Keystone Cops and the pop-open doors from the old Laugh In show. Every time you turn around someone is coming up with another version of their alternate facts and everyone, including Fox News is noticing. Disorganized is too kind a term.

That's your opinion because you disagree.  Democratic angst is having been rejected by America on their idea that big government is the answer and if those trump approval polls are like the ones you folks touted of a Hillary landslide last November, you're in big trouble as a party.

And with the republicans in both houses and with Trump reigning over all, the entire country is in BIG BIG TROUBLE, WORSE BY FAR THAN UNDER OBAMA.  Reality

“You can dislike the fact that Trump was elected, yes, definitely, and yet still understand and accept ultimately that he was elected this time around. Or you can have a complete mental and emotional collapse and let the Trump presidency define you.

Sal wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:And your opinion is worth about as much as the trash I am putting into the McDonald's trash basket as I am exiting now.

His opinion currently matches that of 60% of the electorate, dummy.

Seems like y'alls  polls are always wrong. Especially when it comes to voting. Ask Hillary.

Actually, the polls were remarkably accurate.

Clinton won the popular vote by more than three million votes.

Of course, the polls are not designed to reflect the influence of the electoral college.

These are all facts that people possessing a single firing brain synapse already know ...

... and, now you do too.

You're welcome.

Wordslinger wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:

zsomething wrote:Honestly, a lot of Republicans are just cultists at this point.  To understand 'em, you have to read Eric Hoffer.  

You really can't reach the hardcore ones.  They've been trained like dogs, using old cult tactics.   They're taught that only the news sources favorable to them are "real," so anything with negative news is "false" and are trying to trick them.  They're under attack from everything.   Things are only "fair" if they're heavily slanted in their favor.  No matter how much they're running things or tromping over anyone else's rights, they're the "oppressed" ones.

It's like trying to talk sense to a scientologist.  You're not going to get far with it because they've got everything invested in their belief and will only fight you if you say anything that goes against their programming.  Any attempt to wise them up will only make you be viewed as more of a mistrusted enemy.

They're never going to see the truth about Trump because they're too weak to admit they got duped.  They'll cling to their wrongness like grim death.  It sucks, but some people you just have to write off.

Says the guy who has a party at the bottom of the political spectrum watching
The last eight years of Obama get washed down the drain.

In your personal estimation the D's may be at the bottom of the political spectrum but Trump's current approval ratings are the lowest of any president in the last 70 years. That is not exactly stellar performance in anyone's book.

This administration is being run like a combination of the Keystone Cops and the pop-open doors from the old Laugh In show. Every time you turn around someone is coming up with another version of their alternate facts and everyone, including Fox News is noticing. Disorganized is too kind a term.

That's your opinion because you disagree.  Democratic angst is having been rejected by America on their idea that big government is the answer and if those trump approval polls are like the ones you folks touted of a Hillary landslide last November, you're in big trouble as a party.

And with the republicans in both houses and with Trump reigning over all, the entire country is in BIG BIG TROUBLE, WORSE BY FAR THAN UNDER OBAMA.  Reality

“You can dislike the fact that Trump was elected, yes, definitely, and yet still understand and accept ultimately that he was elected this time around. Or you can have a complete mental and emotional collapse and let the Trump presidency define you.

Your argument has a fatal error:  you think my angst over Trump is based on my party affiliation.  I see Trump as a traitor to the United States of America, and I'm not alone -- with brothers and sisters joining me from both political parties.  

I don't hate Trump because he beat Hillary, or because he's a republican.  I hate him because he's unstable, immoral, undignified, and a traitor to his country.

IMASOCK wrote:Hillary is worse. Hell, she couldn't even walk to her car or make a speech without sounding like she had a lung disease.

del.capslock wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:Hillary is worse. Hell, she couldn't even walk to her car or make a speech without sounding like she had a lung disease.

FDR was in a wheelchair for his entire presidency and he managed to get us through the Great Depression and WWII, you dumb shit!

Do you know anything about American history? You seem staggeringly ignorant about almost everything. High school dropout, huh? Functionally illiterate? Just stupid? The possible explanations are endless.

del.capslock wrote:

IMASOCK wrote:Hillary is worse. Hell, she couldn't even walk to her car or make a speech without sounding like she had a lung disease.

FDR was in a wheelchair for his entire presidency and he managed to get us through the Great Depression and WWII, you dumb shit!

Do you know anything about American history? You seem staggeringly ignorant about almost everything. High school dropout, huh? Functionally illiterate? Just stupid? The possible explanations are endless.

Joanimaroni wrote:LOL....and you claim to be from New York. Why concern yourself with community schools in Florida?

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:LOL....and you claim to be from New York. Why concern yourself with community schools in Florida?

He lives here now, as do I.  Florida is now our state as much as it is yours.  As for caplock's comment, you have to admit his target doesn't say much for Florida education.

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:LOL....and you claim to be from New York. Why concern yourself with community schools in Florida?

He lives here now, as do I.  Florida is now our state as much as it is yours.  As for caplock's comment, you have to admit his target doesn't say much for Florida education.

So Telstar lives in Florida....LOL.

WHY denigrate a school he knows nothing about? Oh I get it....just to humiliate a poster he doesn't like.

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:LOL....and you claim to be from New York. Why concern yourself with community schools in Florida?

He lives here now, as do I.  Florida is now our state as much as it is yours.  As for caplock's comment, you have to admit his target doesn't say much for Florida education.

So Telstar lives in Florida....LOL.

WHY denigrate a school he knows nothing about? Oh I get it....just to humiliate a poster he doesn't like.

Telstar made a broad comment about the state of Florida's educational system based on Pacedawg's as well as Pkrbum's obvious challenges in reading and comprehension.  And I believe Pacedawg is a teacher at Pace high ... right?

Joanimaroni wrote:
WHY denigrate a school he knows nothing about? Oh I get it....just to humiliate a poster he doesn't like.

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:LOL....and you claim to be from New York. Why concern yourself with community schools in Florida?

He lives here now, as do I.  Florida is now our state as much as it is yours.  As for caplock's comment, you have to admit his target doesn't say much for Florida education.

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:LOL....and you claim to be from New York. Why concern yourself with community schools in Florida?

He lives here now, as do I.  Florida is now our state as much as it is yours.  As for caplock's comment, you have to admit his target doesn't say much for Florida education.

So Telstar lives in Florida....LOL.

WHY denigrate a school he knows nothing about? Oh I get it....just to humiliate a poster he doesn't like.

Telstar made a broad comment about the state of Florida's educational system based on Pacedawg's as well as Pkrbum's obvious challenges in reading and comprehension.  And I believe Pacedawg is a teacher at Pace high ... right?

None of our business. That is personal information divulged by Bill Moore in one of his fits.

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:LOL....and you claim to be from New York. Why concern yourself with community schools in Florida?

He lives here now, as do I.  Florida is now our state as much as it is yours.  As for caplock's comment, you have to admit his target doesn't say much for Florida education.

So Telstar lives in Florida....LOL.

WHY denigrate a school he knows nothing about? Oh I get it....just to humiliate a poster he doesn't like.

Telstar made a broad comment about the state of Florida's educational system based on Pacedawg's as well as Pkrbum's obvious challenges in reading and comprehension.  And I believe Pacedawg is a teacher at Pace high ... right?

None of our business. That is personal information divulged by Bill Moore in one of his fits.

Pacedawg himself mentioned being a teacher, a long  time ago. Which, considering his statements here, is more than a little frightening.  

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:
WHY denigrate a school he knows nothing about? Oh I get it....just to humiliate a poster he doesn't like.

The queen of mean wants to complain about denigrating and humiliating posters that are personally disliked???