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1Paper or plastic? Empty Paper or plastic? 6/20/2012, 2:18 pm



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2Paper or plastic? Empty Re: Paper or plastic? 6/20/2012, 2:22 pm


your link is broken,

3Paper or plastic? Empty Re: Paper or plastic? 6/22/2012, 12:19 pm


ghandi wrote:
The link didn't work for me either. How about "You want fries with that?"

4Paper or plastic? Empty Austin Texas Bag Ban 6/22/2012, 12:59 pm


y Sarah Coppola
Updated: 12:11 a.m. Friday, Aug. 5, 2011
Published: 11:07 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 4, 2011
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The Austin City Council took a first step late Thursday toward banning plastic bags at retail and grocery store checkouts.

The council voted unanimously to direct city staffers to begin writing a ban with the help of retailers, environmental groups and others. The ban and a plan to gradually phase it in will be presented to the council by November .

Council members also asked staffers to gather information about a possible ban on paper bags, as well as plastic ones, and about possibly charging fees for so-called single-use bags instead of banning them outright.

Details such as whether small stores should be exempt and the penalties for not complying with a ban will be worked out during the four-month process.

Austin would be the first large Texas city to enact such a ban; Brownsville already has one.

Council members say plastic bags are an environmental scourge - polluting waterways, clogging drainage systems and taking up landfill space, where they don't biodegrade.

Austinites use 263 million plastic bags a year, and they cost the city and taxpayers about $850,000 a year to clean up as litter and put in landfills, according to city estimates.

A voluntary effort by large Austin retailers, including Walmart and Target, to cut plastic bag use was not effective enough, city officials have said.

On Thursday , the nonprofit Texas Campaign for the Environment called on the city to ban both plastic and paper bags, saying that would achieve the larger goal of helping consumers get in the habit of using reusable bags instead of single-use bags.

Mark Daniels , vice president of sustainability at Hilex , a large manufacturer and recycler of plastic bags with locations in the Dallas area and across the country, said Thursday that the bags pose no environmental threat because they are fully reusable and recyclable.

A ban would put at risk the nearly 9,000 jobs in Texas that are involved in producing, recycling and transporting the bags, Daniels said.

There is also no evidence that plastic bags kill wildlife or are an exceptionally large source of litter, he said.

A plastic bag ban would compel consumers to begin using more paper bags, which require more energy and fuel to produce and transport than plastic bags, Daniels said.

The ban, he said, "would just not be good public policy."; 912-2939


Brownsville Texas’ plastic bag ban and $1 fee on non-reusable bags goes into effect in January! (text now available)
December 23, 2010
Brownsville Texas’ plastic bag ban and $1 fee on non-reusable bags goes into effect on January 5, 2011.

Under Brownville’s ordinance, only the following types of bags “specifically designed and manufactured for multiple reuse” will be available at checkout for free:

bags made of cloth or other washable fabric
65# paper bags (with handles)
plastic bags as long as they are 4.0 mil thick
All other plastic bags and less durable paper will incur a $1 environmental fee per transaction.

One dollar per bag is much higher than the 5 or 10 cents that most American municipalities have proposed, so everyone will be watching to see what happens in Texas!

A FAQ sheet is available here.

Full text of the ordinance available here.


Guest If the bag ban takes root, this would be a neat thing to learn. I have practiced but I am not very good at it. In Japan the ladies can whip out their square of cloth and quicky wrap up their stuff. It was really neat to see how quick they were. LOL Interesting At the end of the Video they put their purchases in a paper bag... So much for the old ways...........

7Paper or plastic? Empty Re: Paper or plastic? 6/22/2012, 1:30 pm



8Paper or plastic? Empty Re: Paper or plastic? 6/22/2012, 1:36 pm


Now you know more than you need to about cloth folding.

9Paper or plastic? Empty Re: Paper or plastic? 7/16/2012, 5:10 pm


Tried to fix a link......could not.

10Paper or plastic? Empty Re: Paper or plastic? 8/7/2012, 12:57 am


Many of my friends and I just take reusable bags into the store when we shop. It used to feel odd but now it is nearly automatic. I even have a small cloth bag that I carry in my purse for those times when taking a bag has slipped my mind. Publix, Target, etc. sell bags for around a dollar. Now I see more people with cloth bags than plastic bags.
It's all what you get used to. I hope more cities do this and in the meantime I hope people will just pick up the habit of taking their own bags.

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