2seaoat wrote:Well I say these muslim countries should take care of this and not us.
For 35 years Israel has been relatively safe with no real threats from adjacent nation states. This corresponds with the first Gulf War, the second war, and this alleged war on terror. The saudis are one of the world's largest customers for MIC, and war and instability in the Middle East is big business which the American Taxpayer ultimately pays. The western colonial world war one arbitrary divisions have come to roost. It is long past the time to cut and run and let the chips fall where they may. Terror attacks will happen today, and 15 years from today because they are not from nation states, and are criminal acts. Yet, we have turned the same from criminal acts to acts of war from non existing geographic regions or nations.....we are fighting a war with an idea while feeding MIC enormous profits......350 billion increase in the defense budget......President Trump is a pathological liar, and now he is guilty of the very thing he criticized others, but symbolism is needed for propaganda. Military worship in this country is a chronic and terminal condition.
Rarely does one encounter such galloping ignorance. The attack on Syria was only partially about that regime's use of chemical weapons. You might note that Syria bombed that same town with conventional munitions shortly after the missile strikes, so it didn't really put the fear of God into them, did it?
It was also about Trump's Mar-a-Lago diplomacy and N. Korea. It put China and N. Korea on notice. China is now willing to cooperate in handling the demented loon in N. Korea.
Your bore-sighted view of conflict in the Middle East as being only about Israel and the military-industrial complex belies an inability to comprehend an issue of staggering complexity. Sure, Israel and the military-industrial complex are part of it, but that's all, only a part. There's also the Sunni-Shia divide in the Islamic nations. And don't forget oil--the price of which has driven Russia to near bankruptcy but barely hurt the Western economies.
And while we're on that subject, taxpayer's dollars don't fund anything, you moron. Every dollar the US spends is a brand new dollar, created out of thin air. Read up on Modern Monetary Theory so you can begin to understand contemporary economics. Our government taxes citizens to create demand for our monetarily sovereign dollars and to encourage or discourage segments of the economy that may be deemed useful or deleterious to stability and growth but taxes DO NOT fund spending. That is a myth created by the debt-hawks to stifle domestic spending. The United States can pay any bill denominated in US dollars forever, per no less an authority than the loathsome and detestable Alan Greenspan.
Regarding the military-industrial complex, it has enforced the Pax Americana since the end of WWII. Even the most cursory reading of history shows that this has been one of the longest eras of relative world peace. Sure, there have been wars all over the globe but nothing that approaches the invasion of China in '32 by the Japanese and the subsequent Rape of Nanking in '37 or Germany's occupation of most of Europe in '39 and its invasion of Russia beginning in '41.
I'm no fan of excessive military power but I can't help but believe that the Pax Americana backed-up by our military might has kept things tamped down to a remarkable degree for 70 years. We have 10 nuclear-powered Supercarriers, nobody else has more than two or three. We have a like number of Nuclear Ballistic Missile subs. We have countless destroyers and cruisers, each which can launch hell-on-earth from a 1000 miles away. We have bombers and fighters and tankers galore. And with all this, our restraint in the face of continuous provocation has been nothing short of remarkable.
There is also the fact that every dollar spent on military stuff eventually enters the civilian economy. It buys Big Macs and TVs and Iphones and all the other stuff we enjoy.
Wise up, Pop. As Jacques Barzun put it: "The complexity of things, the multiplicity of minds and wills and the uncertainty of outcomes form the basis for keeping one's opinions ever subject to revision".
As someone else put it: "He not busy being born is busy dying".