fake news......author of same just laughs at how stupid Americans have become

Tonight on Vice News they interviewed a fake news writer who would just make up chit and post the same on Trump sites......they were repeated, and when finally fact checked, mostly taken down.....but the damage was done......over and over again. The guy would not come on camera, but he said it paid his bills and he liked using his imagination and writing.......and he just could not believe people actually picked up his stories and posted them on legitimate news sites without fact check.

Objective truth and facts do not matter to the Trump mob.

From his surrogate ....

"Well, I think it's also an idea of an opinion. And that's—on one hand, I hear half the media saying that these are lies. But on the other half, there are many people that go, 'No, it's true.' And so one thing that has been interesting this entire campaign season to watch, is that people that say facts are facts—they're not really facts. Everybody has a way—it's kind of like looking at ratings, or looking at a glass of half-full water. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth, or not truth. There's no such thing, unfortunately, anymore as facts.

"And so Mr. Trump's tweet, amongst a certain crowd—a large part of the population—are truth. When he says that millions of people illegally voted, he has some—amongst him and his supporters, and people believe they have facts to back that up. Those that do not like Mr. Trump, they say that those are lies and that there are no facts to back it up."

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/videos/a51152/trump-surrogate-no-such-thing-as-facts/

I just read pence lamenting that the free market has been failing... as if it... itself was the problem.

I'll be glad when we know exactly what they'll do... the things being thrown out right now are largely for reaction to test the waters. It's nearly pointless to be played like puppets... but y'all feel free to keep dancing around.

Hmmmm...only part of our country is stupid. Remember?

Markle wrote:Hmmmm...only part of our country is stupid.  Remember?

Congress passed the ACA not the American voters.

I do not think the millions of people now covered by health insurance are regretting that it passed.  Please see the comments by slopes.com re these comments. Bottom line is millions more people have insurance and Gruber himself said he would rather have this law than not.

Also from the slopes article:

Gruber's comments were part of a broader public conversation between him and economist Mark Pauly on the economics of health care reform. Gruber was responding to a remark by Pauly about financing transparency in the law and the politics surrounding the ACA's individual mandate. The political process, he said, striking a critical tone, resulted in inefficiencies in the law which should be corrected.

"In terms of risk-rated subsidies, if you had a law which explicitly said that healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed," he said. "You can't
do it politically, you just literally cannot do it. It's not only transparent financing but also transparent spending."



The main point here is that there is a reality and no matter how many times your hero the Trumpseter claims something is true does not make it so. Social media largely creates rumors, which may be effective in the short run but hopefully reality will prevail.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/gruber.asp

So, how should Trump’s statements during the campaign have been covered? Should reporters have added something like this in the second paragraph of every news story? “Trump probably didn’t mean that he would appoint a special prosecutor/build a wall/deport millions of immigrants. His statements are not meant to be taken literally but rather as broad suggestions of a feeling he was experiencing on a particular day.”

There was more from the Harvard event. When CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Trump senior adviser Kellyanne Conway about the same election-fraud claim discussed above — specifically, whether disseminating misinformation was “presidential” — it was clear that she and Hughes got the same memo.


“He’s the president-elect, so that’s presidential behavior,” Conway said, using mind-bending pseudo-logic, reminiscent of the Nixonian “When the president does it, that means that it’s not illegal.”

These surrogates’ disdain for facts should not be surprising, given Trump’s own casual relationship with verifiable truth.

It’s time to dust off your old copy of “1984 ” by George Orwell and recall this passage: “The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink.”

And be vigilant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-post-truth-world-of-the-trump-administration-is-scarier-than-you-think/2016/12/02/ebda952a-b897-11e6-b994-f45a208f7a73_story.html?mc_cid=ee17d75a65&mc_eid=74c40e256b&utm_term=.f912f04e2a12

Markle wrote:Hmmmm...only part of our country is stupid.  Remember?

STFU about Gruber. The whole thing was debunked years ago. He wasn't the "architect" of Obamacare. He spoke out of turn and then apologized and retracted. Yet you keep making the same stupid assertions as in 2010.