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Your government just spent $10 million to prosecute a baseball player and he was acquitted of all charges.

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

What good is this government to us any longer?



Last edited by ButtMan on 6/19/2012, 7:04 am; edited 2 times in total

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

read this

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68271.html

Slicef18

Slicef18

ButtMan wrote:And it gets worse. This is the same government which has Congressmen/women in it who are exempt from insider trading in the stock market. The same government which prosecuted Martha Stewart and sent her to jail for doing the same thing these bastards have exempted themselves from.

And these are both democrats and republicans so of course this makes me a "fence-sitter". And it doesn't matter if you "throw the bums out" because, as always, more bums are waiting in the wings.

The question to you is this. Why shouldn't all of us do everything we can to cheat on income taxes and try to cut off the supply of money to these bastards? And why should we bother to keep voting when all that accomplishes is nothing?

(a)Unless you're self employed thee is almost no way to receive wages without taxes being taken out.

(b)Actually, voting is nothing more than a way to make Americans feel like they have some influence on our government. Not only does Congress not do the will of the people, we now have had two Presidents that don't feel the need to follow laws or the wishes of Congress. And they have their own military force in the CIA which is not mindful of the laws of America or other nations.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Slicef18 wrote:
ButtMan wrote:And it gets worse. This is the same government which has Congressmen/women in it who are exempt from insider trading in the stock market. The same government which prosecuted Martha Stewart and sent her to jail for doing the same thing these bastards have exempted themselves from.

And these are both democrats and republicans so of course this makes me a "fence-sitter". And it doesn't matter if you "throw the bums out" because, as always, more bums are waiting in the wings.

The question to you is this. Why shouldn't all of us do everything we can to cheat on income taxes and try to cut off the supply of money to these bastards? And why should we bother to keep voting when all that accomplishes is nothing?

(a)Unless you're self employed thee is almost no way to receive wages without taxes being taken out.

(b)Actually, voting is nothing more than a way to make Americans feel like they have some influence on our government. Not only does Congress not do the will of the people, we now have had two Presidents that don't feel the need to follow laws or the wishes of Congress. And they have their own military force in the CIA which is not mindful of the laws of America or other nations.

It's so depressing. And what makes it more depressing is watching fox news and msnbc. One says all we have to do is be brainwashed republicans and that will fix it. the other says all we have to be is brainwashed democrats and that will fix it.
And then we turn on this forum and most of the posters are following right in line with either fox news or msnbc.
And the only constant is that sean hannity and ed schultz are getting rich telling us that stuff.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Slice,

What do you think this country is going to be like in 20 more years?

Guest


Guest

This is the type of thing that agravates me with our Gov. well one of the millions anyway.

illegal drugs is a issue for the state police, or if its traficking then federal law.

legal drugs is no ones business

if sports teams want to regulate steroids or any other type of legal drug, the responsibility of it should be put soley on THEM< sports association or owner of the team>

This is not a complicated issue, its common sense.

Guest


Guest

I am serious. I think they should let sports people take any kind of drug they want. It would really be neat. Baseball players with arms like Popeye that could just smash a baseball into dust. 8 foot basketball players that could jump over the basket. It is all for sport. It would be really great. So what if it shortened your life, better than sorting beans at Wal_mart.

Sal

Sal

ButtMan wrote:What good is this government to us any longer?
Your government just spent $10 million to prosecute a baseball player and he was acquitted of all charges. Pih+jedwards+1
He agrees!

Slicef18

Slicef18

ButtMan wrote:Slice,

What do you think this country is going to be like in 20 more years?

Great question! I sure don't have any crystal ball, but I think America will be much more like a third world nation. Our future is in our children and were doing nothing to insure our children have the skills needed to maintain a standard of living anywhere near what we have today. Our education system has become a baby sitter for disruptive children at the expense of an education for our other children.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Slicef18 wrote:
ButtMan wrote:Slice,

What do you think this country is going to be like in 20 more years?

Great question! I sure don't have any crystal ball, but I think America will be much more like a third world nation. Our future is in our children and were doing nothing to insure our children have the skills needed to maintain a standard of living anywhere near what we have today. Our education system has become a baby sitter for disruptive children at the expense of an education for our other children.

A follow-up question for Ghandi, dreamsglore, SRCTeacher, Markle, TittyMan or anyone else reading this.

Who here thinks the solution is to get rid of Obama and the democrats and elect Romney and republicans?

Who here thinks the solution is to keep Obama and elect more democrats?

Who here thinks the solution is to pay more attention to fox news?

Who here thinks the solution is to pay more attention to the democrat news?

Guest


Guest

How much did the State of Florida spend prosecuting Casey Anthony only for her to be acquitted of the most serious crime? Stuff happens.

Guest


Guest

ButtMan wrote:

A follow-up question for Ghandi, dreamsglore, SRCTeacher, Markle, TittyMan or anyone else reading this.

Blow it out you're ass you libtard sleezbag.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Ghost_Rider1 wrote:How much did the State of Florida spend prosecuting Casey Anthony only for her to be acquitted of the most serious crime? Stuff happens.
I have a good friend who says the country is just going through another phase like it has for over 200 years and it will all be sweetness and light again so not to worry. That there is no more decline of the country than there has ever been. He says his children will figure it all out like new generations of americans have always done.

Guest


Guest

ButtMan wrote:
I have a good friend who says the country is just going through another phase like it has for over 200 years and it will all be sweetness and light again so not to worry. That there is no more decline of the country than there has ever been. He says his children will figure it all out like new generations of americans have always done.

I tend to agree with your friend.

Yella

Yella

ButtMan wrote:What good is this government to us any longer?

I think most long drawn out trials are for the lawyers and all other court employees to make more MONEY! Roger Clemens' case was a feeding frenzy.

I also think that most lawyers will lie if they know it will give them an edge and they know they can't be caught.

Politicians are different. They will lie and don't seem to care if they get caught.

http://warpedinblue,blogspot.com/

Sal

Sal

ButtMan wrote:
Slicef18 wrote:
ButtMan wrote:Slice,

What do you think this country is going to be like in 20 more years?

Great question! I sure don't have any crystal ball, but I think America will be much more like a third world nation. Our future is in our children and were doing nothing to insure our children have the skills needed to maintain a standard of living anywhere near what we have today. Our education system has become a baby sitter for disruptive children at the expense of an education for our other children.

A follow-up question for Ghandi, dreamsglore, SRCTeacher, Markle, TittyMan or anyone else reading this.

Who here thinks the solution is to get rid of Obama and the democrats and elect Romney and republicans?

Who here thinks the solution is to keep Obama and elect more democrats?

Who here thinks the solution is to pay more attention to fox news?

Who here thinks the solution is to pay more attention to the democrat news?

First off, I don't watch MSNBC or FAUX.

Now, from what I've read on these boards, your political philosophy is pretty much that both sides suck and are equally responsible for the sorry state of our nation. I agree with the first part, but reject the second. In my lifetime, I've watched the Republican party drift further and further to the extreme right to the point today where they are beholden on one hand to an ideologue who rejects raising revenue for any reason, and on the other to a group of fundamentalist fascists who are in a constant state of panic over the loss of white male privilege. The Democrats response to that drift has not been to stand their ground and hold to their principles. Instead, they've been gravitationally pulled to the right (either by greed, spinelessness, or stupidity - take your pick, it doesn't really matter), in a perpetual search for the new "middle". The result is that we now have a Democrat POTUS who has governed to the right of Ronald Reagan, and conservatives have spent the past four years setting their hair on fire and screaming about "SOCIALISM!!" and the "COLONIALIST KENYAN USURPER!!!". I wish to hell there was a real progressive alternative, but with the exception of lone voices like Bernie Sanders, it's pretty much a political wasteland. So what's the solution? For me it's to continue to vote for candidates that will move us even ever so slightly away from the abyss, and more importantly, to support philosophically and financially causes and policies that will restore sanity to the system. I will vote for Obama in November. Not because I think he is the solution, but because he's slightly less of a problem than Romney ... slightly.

Now, what's your solution? Will you vote in November, or will you whine about both sides sucking and take your ball and head home? Shocked

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

salinsky wrote:
ButtMan wrote:
Slicef18 wrote:
ButtMan wrote:Slice,

What do you think this country is going to be like in 20 more years?

Great question! I sure don't have any crystal ball, but I think America will be much more like a third world nation. Our future is in our children and were doing nothing to insure our children have the skills needed to maintain a standard of living anywhere near what we have today. Our education system has become a baby sitter for disruptive children at the expense of an education for our other children.

A follow-up question for Ghandi, dreamsglore, SRCTeacher, Markle, TittyMan or anyone else reading this.

Who here thinks the solution is to get rid of Obama and the democrats and elect Romney and republicans?

Who here thinks the solution is to keep Obama and elect more democrats?

Who here thinks the solution is to pay more attention to fox news?

Who here thinks the solution is to pay more attention to the democrat news?

First off, I don't watch MSNBC or FAUX.

Now, from what I've read on these boards, your political philosophy is pretty much that both sides suck and are equally responsible for the sorry state of our nation. I agree with the first part, but reject the second. In my lifetime, I've watched the Republican party drift further and further to the extreme right to the point today where they are beholden on one hand to an ideologue who rejects raising revenue for any reason, and on the other to a group of fundamentalist fascists who are in a constant state of panic over the loss of white male privilege. The Democrats response to that drift has not been to stand their ground and hold to their principles. Instead, they've been gravitationally pulled to the right (either by greed, spinelessness, or stupidity - take your pick, it doesn't really matter), in a perpetual search for the new "middle". The result is that we now have a Democrat POTUS who has governed to the right of Ronald Reagan, and conservatives have spent the past four years setting their hair on fire and screaming about "SOCIALISM!!" and the "COLONIALIST KENYAN USURPER!!!". I wish to hell there was a real progressive alternative, but with the exception of lone voices like Bernie Sanders, it's pretty much a political wasteland. So what's the solution? For me it's to continue to vote for candidates that will move us even ever so slightly away from the abyss, and more importantly, to support philosophically and financially causes and policies that will restore sanity to the system. I will vote for Obama in November. Not because I think he is the solution, but because he's slightly less of a problem than Romney ... slightly.

Now, what's your solution? Will you vote in November, or will you whine about both sides sucking and take your ball and head home? Shocked
As always, ButtMan could be wrong. And since ButtMan is not smart enough to give a rebuttal to such an excellent essay as this, ButtMan will have to defer to others for that.
As for voting, right now ButtMan just doesn't have the fire in his belly to want to go to the polls and make the choice between the chicago machine community organizer and the mormon with a car elevator in his house.

Guest


Guest

http://money.msn.com/mutual-fund/facebooks-ipo-flop-who-got-rich They should be going after Crooks like these.

Markle

Markle

UPS wrote:http://money.msn.com/mutual-fund/facebooks-ipo-flop-who-got-rich They should be going after Crooks like these.

Without vigorously prosecuting perjury, our entire judicial system collapses. He's a famous "heroic" ball player who cheated, lied and ran Scott free. Stuff happens.

It is always the cover up.

When he first testified, if he had said, YES, I used steroids to give me an edge, I didn't realize what else it would do to my body. I was young and stupid. I last took them on such and such a date and beg forgiveness from the people who looked up to me.

Former President William Jefferson Clinton could have done the same thing and never been convicted of perjury and impeached.

Markle

Markle

From Salinsky....

First off, I don't watch MSNBC or FAUX.

Now, from what I've read on these boards, your political philosophy is pretty much that both sides suck and are equally responsible for the sorry state of our nation. I agree with the first part, but reject the second. In my lifetime, I've watched the Republican party drift further and further to the extreme right to the point today where they are beholden on one hand to an ideologue who rejects raising revenue for any reason, and on the other to a group of fundamentalist fascists who are in a constant state of panic over the loss of white male privilege. The Democrats response to that drift has not been to stand their ground and hold to their principles. Instead, they've been gravitationally pulled to the right (either by greed, spinelessness, or stupidity - take your pick, it doesn't really matter), in a perpetual search for the new "middle". The result is that we now have a Democrat POTUS who has governed to the right of Ronald Reagan, and conservatives have spent the past four years setting their hair on fire and screaming about "SOCIALISM!!" and the "COLONIALIST KENYAN USURPER!!!". I wish to hell there was a real progressive alternative, but with the exception of lone voices like Bernie Sanders, it's pretty much a political wasteland. So what's the solution? For me it's to continue to vote for candidates that will move us even ever so slightly away from the abyss, and more importantly, to support philosophically and financially causes and policies that will restore sanity to the system. I will vote for Obama in November. Not because I think he is the solution, but because he's slightly less of a problem than Romney ... slightly.

Now, what's your solution? Will you vote in November, or will you whine about both sides sucking and take your ball and head home? Shocked [/quote]

You should be ashamed of your racism...but I know you are not.

As you know, President Barack Hussein Obama said that we should judge and know him by the people with whom he surrounds himself. That would be, by their own and his admission, Socialists, Communists, Marxists and Maoists.

As for President Obama being slightly better than former Governor Mitt Romney, how did this happen?

Your government just spent $10 million to prosecute a baseball player and he was acquitted of all charges. Obama-results3162012

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

With the last post, I think we have finally made the full transition from that newspaper forum to our own forum.
All is well. Maybe I didn't kill this forum afterall. Just shot it in the leg is all and now it's recovering.

Guest


Guest

So none of you thinks it would be a good idea to have drug fueled sporting events? I tell you it is the perfect match for latest downtown venue. But any sport would work. Your government just spent $10 million to prosecute a baseball player and he was acquitted of all charges. Nvpsa9

Guest


Guest

hallmarkgrad wrote:So none of you thinks it would be a good idea to have drug fueled sporting events? I tell you it is the perfect match for latest downtown venue. But any sport would work.

So are you saying that Roger Clemens is guilty even after being found not guilty on all charges?

Guest


Guest

I have no idea who Roger Clements is other than he plays baseball. I would like to see sports played with no ban on drugs.. Cyclist that could ride 50 mph, Stuff like that. Hell it is entertainment Lets see a show. A real show. Maybe even NASCAR guys could drink a few beers while they are racing. The possibility's are endless.

Guest


Guest

chrissy8 wrote:This is the type of thing that agravates me with our Gov. well one of the millions anyway.

illegal drugs is a issue for the state police, or if its traficking then federal law.

legal drugs is no ones business

if sports teams want to regulate steroids or any other type of legal drug, the responsibility of it should be put soley on THEM< sports association or owner of the team>

This is not a complicated issue, its common sense.

I do believe you are retarded. You don't make a lick of sense.How many of owners of teams are going to regulate their own people when they are winning under the influence of drugs? Legal drugs is no one's business? How many people are addicted and abuse legal drugs? How many people get in their cars and kill people on legal drugs? Legal drugs are abused just like illegal drugs.

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