After tripling down on "Obama founded Isis" for two days, Trump now says his comment was "sarcasm".

I'll give you your due, Donnie. You may be very good at lying and name calling and insulting and just plain acting like a dick.
But take it from someone who knows how to do sarcasm, son. Sarcasm is definitely not your forte. lol

Dementia is not good for sarcasm.   we can see on this forum how the old folks have declined in the last ten years......I know there would be constitutional challenges, but I think if there are age limits on military, certainly congress should have the right to have an age limit on the commander in chief.  I think like an airline pilot, we need age limits on presidential candidates.   No person over 65 should run for President.  

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/08/12/donald-trump-obama-clinton-isis-founder/88606042/

Rich boy who has always been able to speak his mind and someone cleans up behind him. Or pays someone off. In no shape or form is he Presidential material. No way.

I agree, but we discount the anger of people who put him in a position to become president. I just saw a father and son interviewed waiting in line for a Trump event, and they remind me of so many of his other supporters. Their world has changed. They are piszed. That anger should not be discounted, but when I saw this young person mimicking his father, it reminded me that hate is not innate in a child......it is taught.

2seaoat wrote:I agree, but we discount the anger of people who put him in a position to become president.  I just saw a father and son interviewed waiting in line for a Trump event, and they remind me of so many of his other supporters.   Their world has changed.  They are piszed.  That anger should not be discounted, but when I saw this young person mimicking his father, it reminded me that hate is not innate in a child......it is taught.

Definitely find the people following Trump are those who believe the way it has always been done is the right way. They are the ultimate mouse in "Who Moved My Cheese." They listen and possibly read far fetched ratings grabbing media. Many have their own identity crisis and can't live much outside their family of dna. Friends are allowed in if they think "just like" them.

We experienced a Milton confederate flag waving this past weekend. On our way home from Pensacola we decided to see the "river walk" on the Blackwater. Nice area and many outdoor community activities. But what did we see...big ol' Confederate flag flying on a pontoon boat. We both were sickened by the display and felt our weekend had to be redeemed. That one point of the ignorance of freedom of rights truly is left me sick to my stomach.

Every community has a group of people who are moving forward. Milton has a money shot on that river walk. Too bad bubba on the pontoon overshadows.

We used to take the Pontoon boat and tie up to the Milton River walk, and walk over to a gas station converted to a restaurant and have a great lunch. The potential is unlimited and the beauty of the river is spectacular. Few areas of the country can match the beauty of the bayous, rivers, and bays of the area. We just barely got under that damn railroad bridge, but on the weekends they open it up for bigger boats. I personally think the blackwater and the yellow river are huge attractions for folks who want to take a eco vacation. It simply is spectacular, but I am a river rat. I was at the Macs. when that camoflauged pick up truck with the huge confederate flag drove by in Pace. I have seen other pick ups in Milton with the same set up........such a naturally beautiful place so polluted with hate and prejudice.

The constantly doubling down on "obama founded isis" followed by "it was just sarcasm" nonsense is no longer a mystery to me.  I've got this asshole figured out.

Donald Trump is cut from the same cloth as Rush Limbaugh.
Both are a consequence of what happened to our political dialogue.  

It all began around the time the broadcast tv networks decided to combine their entertainment and news divisions and replaced news with "infotainment".
They did so solely for the purpose of increasing the ratings for what they euphemistically call "news".
The cable news networks then came along.  And seeing that the strategy was working for the broadcast networks,  infused even more entertainment and performance into their programming.

Limbaugh was the first media personality to really run with this new concept.
But Trump was always there too.  Observing what was happening and capitalizing on it.  Over the years he's been exploiting this new concept always to get more attention for himself (the Barnum strategy: no publicity is bad publicity).  And doing so by continually appearing on these "news" programs.  All the while making himself into a completely different public character than the actual Donald Trump who we now learn was nothing more than a flim-flam artist out to cheat and lie his way to the top.

I think finally he just got bored with the business world.  And he saw the tremendous potential in this new field of so-called "reality" television.  He said to himself... "hell,  I've already mastered the art of the media.  I can do a shitload better with that than these other hacks.  I am,  afterall,  a genius".   Followed by... "when I succeed with this,  that will make me as well known as any President".

Which is exactly what happened.  He did rise to the top of reality tv.  Of course that aint really saying very much when the competition is people living in a swamp,  crooked Vegas pawnbrokers (one of which they call Chumley),  some little girl named "Boo Boo",  a bunch of drunken derelicts galavanting on the Jersey Shore,  and assorted other oddities.
But it worked for him like he'd planned.  He became the most watched freak in the freak show.
And if you don't think that was a freak show,  watch the episode with Gary Busey and Meatloaf on youtube.  My god anything with Busey in it is by definition a freak show.

Then, like with the business world,  he got bored with reality tv as well.
And that's when he said one of two things to himself.  And that's where I'm not deep enough inside his head yet to know which one.  But I'm working on it.

Either one,  it was... "shit I AM now as well known as a POTUS so fuck it I'll just become one".
OR... "Hell,  I'll just pretend like I want to be the POTUS and use the upcoming election campaign to do it.  That will boost my name recognition and make Trump become a household name throughout the world just like the name Obama".

And once again,  he did exactly that.

But how exactly to go about it.  Well that was easy.  Just become a ranter and screamer like Limbaugh.  Limbaugh had already mastered the con.  And the way Limbaugh didit  was to continually throw out red meat to the media.  And then the media reacts with "Oh my god,  did he REALLY say that?"  And then there's calls to lynch him.  Followed by repeating that three part strategy again and again,  all the while gaining even more national notoriety.

It worked for Limbaugh and for the last year or so it's been working for Trump too.  That explains all the bombastic comments up to and including
the suggestion that Hillary needs to be assassinated.  Followed by "Obama founded Isis".

Hence,  there really is no more mystery to solve except only one.  And that is did he really want to be the POTUS or did he not.  And as I said,  I'm still working on that one.

Well I'll be darn. Isn't this what seaoat tells us is so forward thinking and progressive compared to where we live? Hasn't seaoat told us he likes being in some podunk called Metropolis. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Metropolis is right in the middle of this.

http://thesouthern.com/news/local/confederate-flag-still-prevalent-in-southern-illinois/article_311544a9-e25c-5cd5-8d33-7c668dec6891.html

Seaoat's not the only one who does some traveling.
Not long ago, I took a car trip from Minnesota through Wisconsin and on through Illinois from the northern border of the state to the southern border.
When I was in southern Illinois I didn't get to see Metropolis (wish I had now) but I did go into Cairo (west of Metropolis) looking for gas.

My god that place looks like a western ghost town. Half the buildings are boarded up. So apparently not hardly anyone wants to live there anymore.
But after reading that article I can see why. lol
I goddamn guarantee you the schools in that shithole are not better than those in Escambia County. Or Santa Rosa County for that matter. That is even if the place still has any schools.

I love playing poker in Metropolis.........this is where all the folks in KY and TN come to casino gamble because the evil Illinois allows gambling and the sale of liquor on Sundays. I win in Metropolis. I lose consistently in Pensacola where retired military dominate the tables. Very very very tight players. In Metropolis they can lose count after five and they think all that royalty is the same.........a guy flops a jack queen and king on the table and declares I have three of a kind..........I reply......KY or TN?

If I was you I would have wanted to change the subject too.

Did not change the subject, just gave you a history lesson. The Ohio river was the interstate system in the early 1800s as some pretty rough characters populated KY, Tn, and southern Illinois. The argument that the Panhandle is really southern Alabama, is the same argument that southern Illinois Cario, Metropolis, Vienna, Harrisburg are all northern Ky/Tn because they boomed during that early 1800 period with folks who could not make it in Virginia and needed to get their still, mule, and log cabin. However, let me tell you about the County right above Metropolis.....it is called bloody Williamson.....I will give you a link.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herrin_massacre

Other coal miners struck in Ky, West Virgina, and TN, but in Illinois......they do things the Chicago way........you wonder why Illinois is not a right to work state?

Nah, it aint JUST southern Illinois, oat goat. As I said, you shoulda stuck to changing the topic. That would have been the smart play. lol

http://www.smilepolitely.com/opinion/confederate_flag_flies_in_the_land_of_lincoln/

Look,  now I'm just feeling sorry for you.  
So do the smart thing and get off this anti-Southern obsession and tell us more about that Trump theory you posted earlier.  That was actually some well thought out stuff.  I'd like to see you elaborate on that.  I was learning something from that.
Don't do like Trump and keep doubling and tripling down on the bigotry. It's not becoming on him and it's not on you either.

My southern stuff is exactly part of the Nixon strategy in Politics, the Fox strategy in news, and will be the nexus with the Trump cable news and entertainment empire he will build with his children after the election. He will have over a hundred million from folks which love his bigotry and he will capture the market from the Republicans and Fox. He will be able to use his campaign funds to sponsor a political show to get his message out. The south which has yet modernized will in lock step make him a rich man and like the American Taliban his message will connect. Hell he may even have some religious shows on his network and invite your friend from Milton. I talk about the South because the lack of modernity has allowed it to be manipulated by politicians for two hundred years and leave an area of the nation which is blessed with bountiful resources mired in poverty, hate, and manipulation. You take offense, but is it not time to recognize the con?

"He meant to call the President a terrorist, sure, but he was sarcastic if that gets him in trouble."

2seaoat wrote:I agree, but we discount the anger of people who put him in a position to become president.  I just saw a father and son interviewed waiting in line for a Trump event, and they remind me of so many of his other supporters.   Their world has changed.  They are piszed.  That anger should not be discounted, but when I saw this young person mimicking his father, it reminded me that hate is not innate in a child......it is taught.

You've got to be taught before it's too late, before you are six or seven or eight, to hate all the people your relatives hate. You've got to be carefully taught, you've got to be carefully taught.

You can try to unlearn what your culture teaches you as a child, but when I saw videos of the black little girls saying the white doll was the pretty doll you understand that cultural change is going to simply take time. As a kid I never saw black people on commercials. Today the white seventy year old who is immersed in TV which shows black, Hispanic, Indian, Asians, and Muslims in a diverse tapestry of entertainment........they have lost a connection with their youth and a sense of security. If you were taught that a black woman with kinky hair, a broad nose, and larger lips than your features, it is hard to accept that beauty. However, I see young people both black and white being attracted to folks who are not their race or ethnicity. People are looking beyond the superficial. So much of enjoying the richness of diversity is to celebrate our differences and understand our similarities which far out weigh our differences. Sadly, I still live with those child impressions and have spent a life time trying to recognize my fears and insecurities I was taught as a child.

2seaoat wrote:You can try to unlearn what your culture teaches you as a child, but when I saw videos of the black little girls saying the white doll was the pretty doll you understand that cultural change is going to simply take time.   As a kid I never saw black people on commercials.   Today the white seventy year old who is immersed in TV which shows black, Hispanic, Indian, Asians, and Muslims in a diverse tapestry of entertainment........they have lost a connection with their youth and a sense of security.   If you were taught that a black woman with kinky hair, a broad nose, and larger lips than your  features, it is hard to accept that beauty.  However, I see young people both black and white being attracted to folks who are not their race or ethnicity.   People are looking beyond the superficial.  So much of enjoying the richness of diversity is to celebrate our differences and understand our similarities which far out weigh our differences.   Sadly, I still live with those child impressions and have spent a life time trying to recognize my fears and insecurities I was taught as a child.

Things change.