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2 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/17/2016, 11:19 am
2seaoat
Early reports three officers are shot. Police came up on man walking with assault rifle. It appears three officers are dead, and seven officers shot.....please do not tell me about the constitutional right to walk down the street with a Military assault weapon......time for sanity in this nation.
3 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/17/2016, 11:39 am
Floridatexan
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/baton-rouge-police-officers-shot-wounded-airline-highway/
4 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/17/2016, 12:35 pm
2seaoat
One shooter down........multiple shooters may be on the loose.
5 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/17/2016, 3:56 pm
Markle
2seaoat wrote:Early reports three officers are shot. Police came up on man walking with assault rifle. It appears three officers are dead, and seven officers shot.....please do not tell me about the constitutional right to walk down the street with a Military assault weapon......time for sanity in this nation.
Most definitely was NOT an assault rifle nor a Military assault weapon.
What does anyone expect when you have a president inviting terrorists (Black Lives Matter) to the White House, which they declined this time. Valarie Jarrett met with leaders of Black Lives Matter in September 2015.
Meanwhile, race baiter Al Sharpton has been to the White House more than 60 times since Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama bought the Oval Office.
6 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/18/2016, 4:10 am
Wordslinger
Over the past few months we've all seen a string of cops shooting and seemingly murdering black suspects, in insidious videos. These incidents, piled on top of each other have enraged the urban black community, most of whom have lived in fear of police -- white or black -- all their lives. That shootings of police would occur in numerous locales, is logical, and natural, as activists decide to strike back against a system and government which has throttled them, denied them equal opportunities, educations, and hope. For the few who made it out of the ghetto, thousands didn't. Drug dealing, Crips, Bloods, etc., prevail in their neighborhood, along with deadly violence.
Anyone who is surprised that such societal and cultural victims would seize the opportunity to strike back with enraged violence is as naive as our resident racist and fascist.
Seaoat claims the revolution has begun. He's right. For the first time large masses of exploited whites have come to grips with the fact they too are being denied decent, productive lives by a government hell bent on economically destroying all but the 1%. Watch closer, you'll see crowds of young, disenfranchised whites marching with the blacks protesting against the militarized cops our government uses to protect itself and the rich. There are clear indications that though their backgrounds are entirely different, both young blacks and young whites are joining to voice their dissatisfaction with a government and a system that has evolved into tyranny.
Whether it's an impassioned white millennial feeling the Bern, or an unemployed former factory worker -- a Trump supporter from Ohio -- whose enraged by NAFTA and all the other government deals that have left her or him stranded on sinking islands of poverty, or a black protestor at Baton Rouge or Minnesota, etc., they are all us. Bernie and Trump have made themselves symbols to lead the fight against the establishment which has become our mutual oppressor.
Seaoat is right, the revolution has indeed begun. And whether you're a liberal or a conservative no longer matters. It really never did. At this point, you are either with us, or with them.
But take hope, we have the real power, same as it was back in 1776. We'll win, and hopefully without the need for massive armed revolution.
One thing for sure, under the existing regimes, the numbers of Americans living in poverty will continue to grow, as will American dissatisfaction. They are already learning that their militarized police forces are considerably weaker and more vulnerable than they thought. In retaliation, we the people can expect more trappings of a police state, and quickly. The good news is, the harder they clamp down on us, the faster our numbers will grow. Same as it was in 1775.
And because we have Facebook, and Twitter and all the media of the internet, a broad movement of rebellion can occur at lightning speed compared to when messages had to be carried by men or women on horseback.
It's one hell of a time to be alive in America!
In my opinion, now that cops are being targeted, things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. The truth is, the broad majority of cops aren't our enemies. It's the bloodsucking corporations and the filthy rich barons of raw capitalism who own the politicians who tell the cops what to do, who are our true enemies.
Once again, the true fascism of corporate and state interests uniting, is our real threat. Call it whatever you like, but it's good to know your enemies.
Most of the cops being shot down now are innocent and like us, victims of circumstance. Revolution is a very harsh word.
Anyone who is surprised that such societal and cultural victims would seize the opportunity to strike back with enraged violence is as naive as our resident racist and fascist.
Seaoat claims the revolution has begun. He's right. For the first time large masses of exploited whites have come to grips with the fact they too are being denied decent, productive lives by a government hell bent on economically destroying all but the 1%. Watch closer, you'll see crowds of young, disenfranchised whites marching with the blacks protesting against the militarized cops our government uses to protect itself and the rich. There are clear indications that though their backgrounds are entirely different, both young blacks and young whites are joining to voice their dissatisfaction with a government and a system that has evolved into tyranny.
Whether it's an impassioned white millennial feeling the Bern, or an unemployed former factory worker -- a Trump supporter from Ohio -- whose enraged by NAFTA and all the other government deals that have left her or him stranded on sinking islands of poverty, or a black protestor at Baton Rouge or Minnesota, etc., they are all us. Bernie and Trump have made themselves symbols to lead the fight against the establishment which has become our mutual oppressor.
Seaoat is right, the revolution has indeed begun. And whether you're a liberal or a conservative no longer matters. It really never did. At this point, you are either with us, or with them.
But take hope, we have the real power, same as it was back in 1776. We'll win, and hopefully without the need for massive armed revolution.
One thing for sure, under the existing regimes, the numbers of Americans living in poverty will continue to grow, as will American dissatisfaction. They are already learning that their militarized police forces are considerably weaker and more vulnerable than they thought. In retaliation, we the people can expect more trappings of a police state, and quickly. The good news is, the harder they clamp down on us, the faster our numbers will grow. Same as it was in 1775.
And because we have Facebook, and Twitter and all the media of the internet, a broad movement of rebellion can occur at lightning speed compared to when messages had to be carried by men or women on horseback.
It's one hell of a time to be alive in America!
In my opinion, now that cops are being targeted, things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. The truth is, the broad majority of cops aren't our enemies. It's the bloodsucking corporations and the filthy rich barons of raw capitalism who own the politicians who tell the cops what to do, who are our true enemies.
Once again, the true fascism of corporate and state interests uniting, is our real threat. Call it whatever you like, but it's good to know your enemies.
Most of the cops being shot down now are innocent and like us, victims of circumstance. Revolution is a very harsh word.
7 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/18/2016, 8:10 am
Sal
That is some fucked up thinking.
Sorry, but I won't stand with the Trump supporters who are hell bent on returning white privilege to America by deporting millions of hardworking people and empowering the police state.
Nor will I stand with the African-American sovereign citizen radicals who in their self-righteousness feel they have the right to execute law enforcement officers guilty of nothing more than rushing in to provide for the safety of the public.
You have confused traitorous renegades for patriots.
Sorry, but I won't stand with the Trump supporters who are hell bent on returning white privilege to America by deporting millions of hardworking people and empowering the police state.
Nor will I stand with the African-American sovereign citizen radicals who in their self-righteousness feel they have the right to execute law enforcement officers guilty of nothing more than rushing in to provide for the safety of the public.
You have confused traitorous renegades for patriots.
8 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/18/2016, 10:27 am
2seaoat
You have confused traitorous renegades for patriots.
Just as the British wanted to hang our founding fathers, the victors write history. Was not a British officer no less a human? Was not ambushing British soldiers and killing someone's child a horrible act? Yet, we celebrate our founding fathers every fourth of July. No, this idea that change takes place with non violence really is the exception in history. Change takes place by horrible violence. No civilized person can condone the murder of another human being, but if we call it war, we can kill hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings and march lock step in a military society which oppresses its citizens and steals the wealth of a nation. Do you really think liberals are responsible for gun control? Gun regulation began when black folks began to walk the streets with weapons, not because some school children got slaughtered by lax laws regulating guns. Fear and violence bring change. No revolution is never without equal wrongs being committed, but the victors write history.
Just as the British wanted to hang our founding fathers, the victors write history. Was not a British officer no less a human? Was not ambushing British soldiers and killing someone's child a horrible act? Yet, we celebrate our founding fathers every fourth of July. No, this idea that change takes place with non violence really is the exception in history. Change takes place by horrible violence. No civilized person can condone the murder of another human being, but if we call it war, we can kill hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings and march lock step in a military society which oppresses its citizens and steals the wealth of a nation. Do you really think liberals are responsible for gun control? Gun regulation began when black folks began to walk the streets with weapons, not because some school children got slaughtered by lax laws regulating guns. Fear and violence bring change. No revolution is never without equal wrongs being committed, but the victors write history.
9 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/18/2016, 8:35 pm
Wordslinger
Salinsky wrote:That is some fucked up thinking.
Sorry, but I won't stand with the Trump supporters who are hell bent on returning white privilege to America by deporting millions of hardworking people and empowering the police state.
Nor will I stand with the African-American sovereign citizen radicals who in their self-righteousness feel they have the right to execute law enforcement officers guilty of nothing more than rushing in to provide for the safety of the public.
You have confused traitorous renegades for patriots.
OK. Tell us just who you do stand with, pray tell? The 1% and all their cronies? Sure there are racists in Trump's camp. And Wall Street and big banks behind Hillary. Yes Virginia, there are big differences between black protestors on the streets in Batan Rouge, and Trump's following in the Deep deep south. And the gap between Trump's followers and Bernie's is an abyss. My point above was that a driving force in all these collectives is total dissatisfaction with the establishment.
And considering your love for Hillay there appears to be little if anything in common between you and any of the three movements I've listed.
Clearly, you're all for letting the 1% continue running the show. You and Markle should join hands!!
10 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/19/2016, 5:58 am
Wordslinger
The Near Certainty of Anti-Police Violence
By Ta-Nehisi Coates, The Atlantic
18 July 16
By ignoring illegitimate policing, America has also failed to address the danger this illegitimacy poses to those who must do the policing.
Last week, 25-year-old Micah Xavier Johnson murdered five police officers in Dallas. This abhorrent act of political extremism cannot be divorced from American history—recent or old. In black communities, the police departments have only enjoyed a kind of quasi-legitimacy. That is because wanton discrimination is definitional to the black experience, and very often it is law enforcement which implements that discrimination with violence. A community consistently subjected to violent discrimination under the law will lose respect for it, and act beyond it. When such actions stretch to mass murder it is horrific. But it is also predictable.
To understand the lack of police legitimacy in black communities, consider the contempt in which most white Americans hold O.J. Simpson. Consider their feelings toward the judge and jury in the case. And then consider that this is approximately how black people have felt every few months for generations. It’s not just that the belief that Officer Timothy Loehmann got away with murdering a 12-year-old Tamir Rice, it is the reality that police officers have been getting away with murdering black people since the advent of American policing. The injustice compounds, congeals until there is an almost tangible sense of dread and grievance that compels a community to understand the police as objects of fear, not respect.
What does it mean, for instance, that black children are ritually told that any stray movement in the face of the police might result in their own legal killing? When Eric Holder spoke about getting “The Talk” from his father, and then giving it to his own son, many of us nodded our heads. But many more of us were terrified. When the nation’s top cop must warn his children to be skeptical of his own troops, how legitimate can the police actually be?
And it is not as if Holder is imagining things. When the law shoots down 12-year-old children, or beats down old women on traffic islands, or chokes people to death over cigarettes; when the law shoots people over compact discs, traffic stops, drivers’ licenses, loud conversation, or car trouble; when the law auctions off its monopoly on lethal violence to bemused civilians, when these civilians then kill, and when their victims are mocked in their death throes; when people stand up to defend police as officers of the state, and when these defenders are killed by these very same officers; when much of this is recorded, uploaded, live-streamed, tweeted, and broadcast; and when government seems powerless, or unwilling, to stop any of it, then it ceases, in the eyes of citizens, to be any sort of respectable law at all. It simply becomes “force.”
In the black community, it’s the force they deploy, and not any higher American ideal, that gives police their power. This is obviously dangerous for those who are policed. Less appreciated is the danger illegitimacy ultimately poses to those who must do the policing. For if the law represents nothing but the greatest force, then it really is indistinguishable from any other street gang. And if the law is nothing but a gang, then it is certain that someone will resort to the kind of justice typically meted out to all other powers in the street.
The Talk is testament to something that went very wrong, long ago, with law enforcement, something that we are scared to see straight. That something has very little to do with the officer on the beat and everything to do with ourselves. There’s a sense that the police departments of America have somehow gone rogue. In fact, the police are one of the most trusted institutions in the country. This is not a paradox. The policies which the police carry out are not the edicts of a dictatorship but the work, as Biden put it, of “the greatest democracy in the history of the world.” Avoiding this fact is central to the current conversation around “police reform” which focuses solely on the actions of police officers and omits everything that precedes these actions. But analyzing the present crisis in law enforcement solely from the contested street, is like analyzing the Iraq War solely from the perspective of Abu Ghraib. And much like the Iraq War, there is a strong temptation to focus on the problems of “implementation,” as opposed to building the kind of equitable society in which police force is used as sparingly as possible.
There is no shortcut out. Sanctimonious cries of nonviolence will not help. “Retraining” can only do so much. Until we move to the broader question of policy, we can expect to see Walter Scotts and Freddie Grays with some regularity. And the extent to which we are tolerant of the possibility of more Walter Scotts and Freddie Grays is the extent to which we are tolerant of the possibility of more Micah Xavier Johnsons.
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The above article was lifted from Reader Supported News, this date. Until policies change, there will be more black Americans gunned down by cops and vice versa. Essentially, the police are doing what they are ordered to do -- occupy and control black neighborhoods. We have a police state designed to protect the 1% and the system that allows these bloodsuckers to steal from everyone. Reality.
11 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/19/2016, 8:09 pm
Markle
Wordslinger wrote:
The Near Certainty of Anti-Police Violence
By Ta-Nehisi Coates, The Atlantic
18 July 16
[...]
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The above article was lifted from Reader Supported News, this date. Until policies change, there will be more black Americans gunned down by cops and vice versa. Essentially, the police are doing what they are ordered to do -- occupy and control black neighborhoods. We have a police state designed to protect the 1% and the system that allows these bloodsuckers to steal from everyone. Reality.
Most amusing. Not your word salad from the Progresses are Wonderful, site but your own revealing statement.
Why didn't you also post that twice as many WHITE AMERICANS will be shot by police than blacks?
Haven't all of the police being shot and killed recently been the victims of blacks?
As you know too, many of the voters FOR Donald Trump are intelligent citizens who are sick and tired of the ELITES, that ONE PERCENT OF WHICH YOU ARE SO JEALOUSE. Even many of the voters for your choice, Socialist Bernie Sanders will vote for Donald Trump. They are the ones who object to the ELITE and hate Hillary who exelempifies them.
Last edited by Markle on 7/19/2016, 8:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
12 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/19/2016, 8:18 pm
Wordslinger
Markle wrote:Wordslinger wrote:
The Near Certainty of Anti-Police Violence
By Ta-Nehisi Coates, The Atlantic
18 July 16
[...]
- - - - - - -
The above article was lifted from Reader Supported News, this date. Until policies change, there will be more black Americans gunned down by cops and vice versa. Essentially, the police are doing what they are ordered to do -- occupy and control black neighborhoods. We have a police state designed to protect the 1% and the system that allows these bloodsuckers to steal from everyone. Reality.
Most amusing. Not your word salad from the Progresses are Wonderful, site but your own revealing statement.
Why didn't you also post that twice as many WHITE AMERICANS will be shot by police than blacks?
Haven't all of the police being shot and killed recently been the victims of blacks?
As you know too, many of the voters FOR Donald Trump are intelligent citizens who are sick and tired of the ELITES, that ONE PERCENT OF WHICH YOU ARE SO JEALOUSE. Even many of the voters for your choice, Socialist Bernie Sanders will vote for Donald Trump.
Cosidering how many whites are gunned down by cops, how do you explain that whites aren't killing cops in retaliation? Just dying to hear your explanation. Is it that whites just don't care about whites being gunned down by cops, but blacks do care about their own brethren being slaughtered?
13 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/19/2016, 8:32 pm
Markle
Wordslinger wrote:Markle wrote:Wordslinger wrote:
The Near Certainty of Anti-Police Violence
By Ta-Nehisi Coates, The Atlantic
18 July 16
[...]
- - - - - - -
The above article was lifted from Reader Supported News, this date. Until policies change, there will be more black Americans gunned down by cops and vice versa. Essentially, the police are doing what they are ordered to do -- occupy and control black neighborhoods. We have a police state designed to protect the 1% and the system that allows these bloodsuckers to steal from everyone. Reality.
Most amusing. Not your word salad from the Progresses are Wonderful, site but your own revealing statement.
Why didn't you also post that twice as many WHITE AMERICANS will be shot by police than blacks?
Haven't all of the police being shot and killed recently been the victims of blacks?
As you know too, many of the voters FOR Donald Trump are intelligent citizens who are sick and tired of the ELITES, that ONE PERCENT OF WHICH YOU ARE SO JEALOUSE. Even many of the voters for your choice, Socialist Bernie Sanders will vote for Donald Trump.
Cosidering how many whites are gunned down by cops, how do you explain that whites aren't killing cops in retaliation? Just dying to hear your explanation. Is it that whites just don't care about whites being gunned down by cops, but blacks do care about their own brethren being slaughtered?
Because, as you have informed us, it is such an infinitesimal number of whites.
Perhaps too because the vast majority of whites comprehend that if you comply with the officers instructions, right or wrong, and don't cop an attitude, nothing bad will happen. Do you suppose that's possible?
True too is the fact that Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama has been attacking police since only months after he took office. Quite a legacy for a president.
14 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/19/2016, 8:46 pm
Markle
Who might have been the shooter Wordslinger?
Kansas City officer dies after shot in police car
by AWR HAWKINS 19 Jul 2016
Just before 2 p.m. local time, a police officer in Kansas City, Kansas, was shot and transported to a hospital in critical condition after stopping the vehicle of an individual believed to be involved in an earlier shooting.
UPDATE 7:30PM ET: Captain Robert Melton was still inside his vehicle when he was shot. The New York Post reports that he was approaching suspects who matched the description of those allegedly behind a shooting incident earlier in the afternoon: those suspects opened fire on Melton before he could exit his vehicle.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/19/officer-shot-in-kansas-city-search-for-suspects-underway/
Kansas City officer dies after shot in police car
by AWR HAWKINS 19 Jul 2016
Just before 2 p.m. local time, a police officer in Kansas City, Kansas, was shot and transported to a hospital in critical condition after stopping the vehicle of an individual believed to be involved in an earlier shooting.
UPDATE 7:30PM ET: Captain Robert Melton was still inside his vehicle when he was shot. The New York Post reports that he was approaching suspects who matched the description of those allegedly behind a shooting incident earlier in the afternoon: those suspects opened fire on Melton before he could exit his vehicle.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/19/officer-shot-in-kansas-city-search-for-suspects-underway/
15 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/19/2016, 9:25 pm
Guest
Guest
You didn't say what color the cop or the suspects were... they have no idea what to think or which cause to jump on yet. Might be evil cops... could be the super villian gun... some hope its whitey... most blame slavery. Its complicated... obviously... because they're fricking insane from political correctivitis.
16 Re: Multiple officers shot in La 7/19/2016, 10:07 pm
Wordslinger
Markle wrote:Wordslinger wrote:Markle wrote:Wordslinger wrote:
The Near Certainty of Anti-Police Violence
By Ta-Nehisi Coates, The Atlantic
18 July 16
[...]
- - - - - - -
The above article was lifted from Reader Supported News, this date. Until policies change, there will be more black Americans gunned down by cops and vice versa. Essentially, the police are doing what they are ordered to do -- occupy and control black neighborhoods. We have a police state designed to protect the 1% and the system that allows these bloodsuckers to steal from everyone. Reality.
Most amusing. Not your word salad from the Progresses are Wonderful, site but your own revealing statement.
Why didn't you also post that twice as many WHITE AMERICANS will be shot by police than blacks?
Haven't all of the police being shot and killed recently been the victims of blacks?
As you know too, many of the voters FOR Donald Trump are intelligent citizens who are sick and tired of the ELITES, that ONE PERCENT OF WHICH YOU ARE SO JEALOUSE. Even many of the voters for your choice, Socialist Bernie Sanders will vote for Donald Trump.
Cosidering how many whites are gunned down by cops, how do you explain that whites aren't killing cops in retaliation? Just dying to hear your explanation. Is it that whites just don't care about whites being gunned down by cops, but blacks do care about their own brethren being slaughtered?
Because, as you have informed us, it is such an infinitesimal number of whites. But you proclaimed the dead whites greatly outnumbered the dead blacks ... are you confused again?
Perhaps too because the vast majority of whites comprehend that if you comply with the officers instructions, right or wrong, and don't cop an attitude, nothing bad will happen. Do you suppose that's possible? Maybe, if you're white.
True too is the fact that Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama has been attacking police since only months after he took office. Quite a legacy for a president.
Let's see, "cop an attitude." Yeah, I guess that does justify choking or beating or shooting even an unarmed suspect to death, right?
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