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White cops killing blacks. Black snipers killing cops. ISIS. What a wonderful world.

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

I want a vacation from these daily doses of death news and the abyss between liberals and conservatives that's getting wider. The world and my country have gone mad.

Hey Jesus, where are you when we need you?

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Guest

Wordslinger wrote:I want a vacation from these daily doses of death news and the abyss between liberals and conservatives that's getting wider.  The world and my country have gone mad.  

Hey Jesus, where are you when we need you?

Turn off the news. Turn of the computer. Go for a walk on a local nature trail. Meet people who are out doing something for their health. People who smile and say good morning or good job. Black, white, Asian, Hispanic ... all with smiles and a friendly greeting.

That was my world this morning. Do the best you can in your place and interact with your community.

I see horrible and horrific incidents of hate and anger but seeing a mix of the population out enjoying a hot, humid, Florida morning in the shade of nature refreshes the soul.

gatorfan



The fact is MOST of the people in this country are more alike than different, more tolerant than intolerant, and less judgmental than some folks on here give them credit for. A bad cop kills someone and some on here say all cops are murderous thugs. They are not. Some on here see a confederate flag and somehow that makes everyone in the area a racist, uneducated redneck. They are not.

Painting entire swaths of people with the same brush over the actions of a very few is bigotry at its finest, I find that disgusting and hypocritical at best and totally ignorant at worst.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

gatorfan wrote:The fact is MOST of the people in this country are more alike than different, more tolerant than intolerant, and less judgmental than some folks on here give them credit for. A bad cop kills someone and some on here say all cops are murderous thugs. They are not. Some on here see a confederate flag and somehow that makes everyone in the area a racist, uneducated redneck. They are not.

pretty well said.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

gatorfan wrote:The fact is MOST of the people in this country are more alike than different, more tolerant than intolerant, and less judgmental than some folks on here give them credit for. A bad cop kills someone and some on here say all cops are murderous thugs. They are not. Some on here see a confederate flag and somehow that makes everyone in the area a racist, uneducated redneck. They are not.

Painting entire swaths of people with the same brush over the actions of a very few is bigotry at its finest, I find that disgusting and hypocritical at best and totally ignorant at worst.

I agree. Sadly, there are those who constantly pander to this divisiveness...so we have mass shootings by some unhinged nutcases who believe what they hear.

Sal

Sal

gatorfan wrote: A bad cop kills someone and some on here say all cops are murderous thugs. They are not.

That's a strawman.

What's at issue here is the misconduct of increasingly militarized police forces who are being trained to act as occupying forces in minority neighborhoods, and violating the basic human rights of overwhelmingly African-American men, due to deeply engrained cultural and racial fears and biases.

Anyone making the argument that "all cops are murderous thugs" is on the fringe and is not worthy of participation in an important conversation.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Salinsky wrote:
gatorfan wrote: A bad cop kills someone and some on here say all cops are murderous thugs. They are not.

That's a strawman.

What's at issue here is the misconduct of increasingly militarized police forces who are being trained to act as occupying forces in minority neighborhoods, and violating the basic human rights of overwhelmingly African-American men, due to deeply engrained cultural and racial fears and biases.

Anyone making the argument that "all cops are murderous thugs" is on the fringe and is not worthy of participation in an important conversation.

I have heard some discussions on the radio today about the training of police officers in the handling of their guns. It sounded as if the emphasis was on marksmanship rather than on a focus on the situations that may make it appropriate to pull a weapon and shoot someone. The videos we're seeing of the shootings don't support the idea that all other means of subduing the suspect had been tried.

My observation of black/white relations during my 30 years of living in the deep South are that the two cultures, while occupying the same geography, for the most part are like two branches of a tree. They are occupying a similar space but are not touching. In most cases the black culture is unknown to most whites.

Over the years I taught in an all black elementary school and saw and learned things that I had no previous exposure to. I am now living in a predominately black neighborhood in New Orleans. I have some of the nicest neighbors I have ever had. I am thankful that they did not hold my whiteness against me. I think there needs to be more frequent interaction between the cultures.

It is obvious that many people are functioning on the basis of preconceived notions of blacks and are lumping the entire population into the most negative popular notions. It would be nice to have a national re-education program of some sort whereby people could learn about our institutionalized racism over the years and just how things came to be the way they are. Where there is understanding there is less fear.

Sal

Sal

othershoe1030 wrote:

It would be nice to have a national re-education program of some sort whereby people could learn about our institutionalized racism over the years and just how things came to be the way they are. Where there is understanding there is less fear.

They could use this as a text ...

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/

Long read, but well worth it.

polecat

polecat

We live in a prison of guns, floors slick with the blood of our dead, and we keep sliding around instead of cleaning up.
The Rude Pundit

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If you're sincere that you want to deal with gun crime... the vast majority takes place in a known place by known people. I highly doubt you're sincere. The real issue is the ignored truth under your learned cause du jour... conveniently.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I live on a segregated block in a segregated neighborhood. My next door neighbors are black and so is my neighbor across the street.
Skin color plays NO role with us being neighbors.

Sal

Sal

Bob wrote:I live on a segregated block in a segregated neighborhood.  My next door neighbors are black and so is my neighbor across the street.
Skin color plays NO role with us being neighbors.

   White cops killing blacks.  Black snipers killing cops.  ISIS.  What a wonderful world. ColbertAlan

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Salinsky wrote:
Bob wrote:I live on a segregated block in a segregated neighborhood.  My next door neighbors are black and so is my neighbor across the street.
Skin color plays NO role with us being neighbors.

   White cops killing blacks.  Black snipers killing cops.  ISIS.  What a wonderful world. ColbertAlan

Is that photo supposed to mean something? Are you incapable of just saying what you mean?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I repeat, I live in a segregated neighborhood and me and my black neighbors get along perfectly.
I guess some people want that to be a lie and want us to hate each other. if you do, then keep that fucking childish liberal shit to yourself.

dumpcare



Other than ISIS what has been happening is leading up to what we saw in the riots of the 60's only this time there are more guns, especially AK 47's and AR 15's on the street. I should add grenades to that, I imagine they are out there. Can you imagine the 60's in today's world? Hope it doesn't happen but ...

Sal

Sal

ppaca wrote:Other than ISIS what has been happening is leading up to what we saw in the riots of the 60's only this time there are more guns, especially AK 47's and AR 15's on the street. I should add grenades to that, I imagine they are out there. Can you imagine the 60's in today's world? Hope it doesn't happen but ...

Are you suggesting that gunz might be making matters worse???

UnAmurican and unpossible!

dumpcare



I'm saying what led up to the 60's riots has really never ceased and festered all these years and it would be worse today because of that many more guns and semi's possibly other sophisticated weapons on the streets or available.

dumpcare



Overview

A race riot, as defined by the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, is a riot caused by racial dissension or hatred. In 1968, the National Commission on Civil Disorder (known as the Kerner Commission) reported that the race riots that took place in the United States during the 1960s were the direct result of the serious grievances of a minority racial group. Those riots generally erupted when a minority person was killed or injured and other members of the group perceived it as unjust and prejudicial. During the 1960s, race riots broke out in many larger cities, where there was a large population and concentration of minorities.

Harlem Riots, 1964

The riots began on July 16, 1964, when a police officer killed a young black boy in Harlem. The Congress for Racial Equality (CORE) had already scheduled a peaceful march to take place two days later to protest police brutality. After the march, a group of more militant and aggressive demonstrators took their protest to the steps of the police precinct. A number of fights broke out between the police and protesters, and 16 black demonstrators were arrested.

Word of the arrests quickly spread, along with reports that police was beating the suspects and that their cries and screaming could be heard outside the building. These rumors prompted a crowd to gather and by 10:30 p.m., a riot began, with protesters throwing Molotov cocktails, stones and bricks. Police came out in riot gear and fired warning shots into the air.

The violence continued for four days and began to spread to other neighborhoods such as Bedford-Stuyvesant in Brooklyn, where shooting, looting and arson was widespread. White-owned stores and businesses were burnt down. CORE chairman James Farmer walked through the streets of Harlem begging the rioters to stop, but to no avail. The violence finally ended on July 23, but left one fatality, 144 injuries and 519 arrests in its wake.

Watts Riot, 1965

On August 11, 1965, police used excessive force while arresting a black man in Watts, a black neighborhood in Los Angeles, for drunk driving. A small group of people gathered at the scene. Although the situation was tense, it was not violent. That changed when a police officer accused a woman of spitting at him and tried to arrest her. The crowd instantly erupted and began throwing bottles and rocks at passing cars and buses. Additional police were called in, and the violence and fighting intensified.

After police left the scene, thinking that their presence exacerbated the issue, the rioters took to the streets with a vengeance and began overturning cars, and smashing windows of nearby stores and looting them. "Burn, baby, burn" was the cry of the rioters. The situation deteriorated and 75 stores in the neighborhood were burned during the first 2 days of the rioting. The undermanned police force was helpless to combat the rioters.

Finally, the National Guard was called in and a curfew and martial law were imposed on Watts and on a surrounding area of 50 square miles. It took 13,000 Guardsmen to bring the rioting under control. When things quieted down, it was reported that there were 34 deaths, 1,000 injuries and damage to 600 buildings totaling $40 million.

Newark Riots 1967

In Newark, on July 12, 1967, police beat a black cab driver while trying to arrest him. A group of protesters gathered at the precinct house and became unruly. When they were asked to leave, they refused to obey and the police began to use force to break up the crowd. A protest rally against police brutality was called for the next morning. Once again, the police used excessive force, and the city erupted into violence with looting, burning and shooting. The National Guard was called in to help restore order. In all, 23 people were killed and nearly $11 million of damage was caused.

Detroit Riots 1967

In the early morning hours of July 23, 1967, Detroit police raided an after-hours bar and arrested 80 patrons. A crowd gathered outside and rocks were thrown at police cars, breaking their windows. The rioting increased and began to spread, with rioters outnumbering police. The next morning, a state of emergency was declared and the National Guard was called in to help the police. Things did not improve until President Lyndon B. Johnson sent in federal troops to help stop the sniping, shooting, looting and burning.

https://www.highbeam.com/topics/race-riots-of-the-1960s-t10642

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Bob wrote:I live on a segregated block in a segregated neighborhood.  My next door neighbors are black and so is my neighbor across the street.
Skin color plays NO role with us being neighbors.

You meant to say desegregated, correct?

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Bob wrote:I repeat,   I live in a segregated neighborhood and me and my black neighbors get along perfectly.
I guess some people want that to be a lie and want us to hate each other.  if you do,  then keep that fucking childish liberal shit to yourself.

Here's some "childish liberal" whatever for YOU. You live in an INTEGRATED neighborhood...must have been a Freudian slip.

dumpcare



lol I thought something looked wrong with that post Bob. I will answer this yes he meant de and I've been there so I know.

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