Strange...not a word from our Progressives on another Islamic Terrorist Attack, this one in Baghdad.

Salinsky wrote:If only there was a secular minded Sunni strongman in place who could control these disparate radical factions, and who we could effectively contain and control ...


... oops.

Bob wrote:In other words,  you agree with THE 1991 Dick Cheney...

  DAVID BRINKLEY: "One other question — it keeps coming up. Why didn’t we go to Baghdad and clean it all up while we were there?"

Sec. CHENEY: "Well, just as it’s important, I think, for a president to know when to commit U.S. forces to combat, it’s also important to know when not to commit U.S. forces to combat. I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire."

   "Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do? Who would we put in power? What kind of government would we have? Would it be a Sunni government, a Shi’a government, a Kurdish government? Would it be secular, along the lines of the Ba’ath Party?"

   "Would it be fundamentalist Islamic? I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all."

Bob wrote:"I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all."

Bob wrote:Huh?  You say I'm a progressive and I put up a thread about it even before you did.

Bob wrote:

Salinsky wrote:If only there was a secular minded Sunni strongman in place who could control these disparate radical factions, and who we could effectively contain and control ...


... oops.

In other words,  you agree with THE 1991 Dick Cheney...

  DAVID BRINKLEY: "One other question — it keeps coming up. Why didn’t we go to Baghdad and clean it all up while we were there?"

Sec. CHENEY: "Well, just as it’s important, I think, for a president to know when to commit U.S. forces to combat, it’s also important to know when not to commit U.S. forces to combat. I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire."

   "Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do? Who would we put in power? What kind of government would we have? Would it be a Sunni government, a Shi’a government, a Kurdish government? Would it be secular, along the lines of the Ba’ath Party?"

   "Would it be fundamentalist Islamic? I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all."

Markle wrote:

Bob wrote:

Salinsky wrote:If only there was a secular minded Sunni strongman in place who could control these disparate radical factions, and who we could effectively contain and control ...


... oops.

In other words,  you agree with THE 1991 Dick Cheney...

  DAVID BRINKLEY: "One other question — it keeps coming up. Why didn’t we go to Baghdad and clean it all up while we were there?"

Sec. CHENEY: "Well, just as it’s important, I think, for a president to know when to commit U.S. forces to combat, it’s also important to know when not to commit U.S. forces to combat. I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire."

   "Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do? Who would we put in power? What kind of government would we have? Would it be a Sunni government, a Shi’a government, a Kurdish government? Would it be secular, along the lines of the Ba’ath Party?"

   "Would it be fundamentalist Islamic? I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all."

Wasn't that before BOTH acts of war on the World Trade Center?

Markle wrote:Wasn't that before BOTH acts of war on the World Trade Center?

Bob wrote:

Markle wrote:

Bob wrote:

Salinsky wrote:If only there was a secular minded Sunni strongman in place who could control these disparate radical factions, and who we could effectively contain and control ...


... oops.

In other words,  you agree with THE 1991 Dick Cheney...

  DAVID BRINKLEY: "One other question — it keeps coming up. Why didn’t we go to Baghdad and clean it all up while we were there?"

Sec. CHENEY: "Well, just as it’s important, I think, for a president to know when to commit U.S. forces to combat, it’s also important to know when not to commit U.S. forces to combat. I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire."

   "Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do? Who would we put in power? What kind of government would we have? Would it be a Sunni government, a Shi’a government, a Kurdish government? Would it be secular, along the lines of the Ba’ath Party?"

   "Would it be fundamentalist Islamic? I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all."

Wasn't that before BOTH acts of war on the World Trade Center?

Yes it was.  Just like it was an act of war to attack Pearl Harbor.
The difference with WW2,  however, is that we didn't retaliate by attacking Korea.  

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:Wasn't that before BOTH acts of war on the World Trade Center?

Please tell us how the attacks on the World Trade Center are related to terrorism in Iraq....

Please tell us why invading Iraq was necessary after the Twin Towers were destroyed on 9/11/2001--How was Saddam Hussein connected to those attacks?

Bob wrote:Question:  How many terrorist attacks have the ragheads done in Brazil?

Answer:  None because Brazil isn't in the middle east fucking with the ragheads.

Markle wrote:

Bob wrote:Question:  How many terrorist attacks have the ragheads done in Brazil?

Answer:  None because Brazil isn't in the middle east fucking with the ragheads.

Wow...instantly changing the subject.  I'm impressed.

Don't speak too soon.  The Olympics in Rio could likely be a disaster in and by themselves.  If you believe that ISIS would overlook that opportunity, if at all possible, you are a fool.

Report: ISIS Recruiting ‘Lone Wolf’ Jihadists in Brazil to Attack 2016 Olympics

by FRANCES MARTEL  23 Mar 2015

The Brazilian government is preparing to thwart attempts by the Islamic State to recruit young Brazilian citizens to orchestrate “lone wolf” attacks in the Latin American nation, particularly during the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Summer Olympics.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/23/report-isis-recruiting-lone-wolf-jihadists-in-brazil-to-attack-2016-olympics/

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Bob wrote:Question:  How many terrorist attacks have the ragheads done in Brazil?

Answer:  None because Brazil isn't in the middle east fucking with the ragheads.

Wow...instantly changing the subject.  I'm impressed.

Don't speak too soon.  The Olympics in Rio could likely be a disaster in and by themselves.  If you believe that ISIS would overlook that opportunity, if at all possible, you are a fool.

Report: ISIS Recruiting ‘Lone Wolf’ Jihadists in Brazil to Attack 2016 Olympics

by FRANCES MARTEL  23 Mar 2015

The Brazilian government is preparing to thwart attempts by the Islamic State to recruit young Brazilian citizens to orchestrate “lone wolf” attacks in the Latin American nation, particularly during the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Summer Olympics.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/23/report-isis-recruiting-lone-wolf-jihadists-in-brazil-to-attack-2016-olympics/

Why won't you tell us how you would handle the ISIS challenge?  We're all ears ...

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Bob wrote:Question:  How many terrorist attacks have the ragheads done in Brazil?

Answer:  None because Brazil isn't in the middle east fucking with the ragheads.

Wow...instantly changing the subject.  I'm impressed.

Don't speak too soon.  The Olympics in Rio could likely be a disaster in and by themselves.  If you believe that ISIS would overlook that opportunity, if at all possible, you are a fool.

Report: ISIS Recruiting ‘Lone Wolf’ Jihadists in Brazil to Attack 2016 Olympics

by FRANCES MARTEL  23 Mar 2015

The Brazilian government is preparing to thwart attempts by the Islamic State to recruit young Brazilian citizens to orchestrate “lone wolf” attacks in the Latin American nation, particularly during the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Summer Olympics.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/23/report-isis-recruiting-lone-wolf-jihadists-in-brazil-to-attack-2016-olympics/

Why won't you tell us how you would handle the ISIS challenge?  We're all ears ...

Of course, even you don't expect or have a clue as to an answer.

It is not unlike having hired a contractor to build your home.  He has great ideas and you give him the contract.  Half way through, the foundation is poured, the plumbing has been roughed in, the house is framed up, the roof is on but not dried in as yet.  

Then, cracks begin to show up in the foundation.  At first, just hairline expansion cracks...you think.  Then they get larger and there is a differential between the two sides of the foundation as the cracks get larger still.

You do your own research and find out that not only did the foundation concrete have too much water, it was poured on a soft, untamped foundation.  Contractor says oops...I've go a job in Canada and I'm outa here.

Is it now easier to tear down the whole thing and start over or try to repair the poor workmanship?

MY suggestion was that you had picked the wrong contractor in the first place but you were enamored by his name and demanded to go against everyone who told you it was a bad decision.  

Now, after you refused to listen to reason from day one, you want US to fix your screw up.

Sure, it can be fixed, just don't whine and moan about the price.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Bob wrote:Question:  How many terrorist attacks have the ragheads done in Brazil?

Answer:  None because Brazil isn't in the middle east fucking with the ragheads.

Wow...instantly changing the subject.  I'm impressed.

Don't speak too soon.  The Olympics in Rio could likely be a disaster in and by themselves.  If you believe that ISIS would overlook that opportunity, if at all possible, you are a fool.

Report: ISIS Recruiting ‘Lone Wolf’ Jihadists in Brazil to Attack 2016 Olympics

by FRANCES MARTEL  23 Mar 2015

The Brazilian government is preparing to thwart attempts by the Islamic State to recruit young Brazilian citizens to orchestrate “lone wolf” attacks in the Latin American nation, particularly during the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Summer Olympics.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/23/report-isis-recruiting-lone-wolf-jihadists-in-brazil-to-attack-2016-olympics/

Why won't you tell us how you would handle the ISIS challenge?  We're all ears ...

Of course, even you don't expect or have a clue as to an answer.

It is not unlike having hired a contractor to build your home.  He has great ideas and you give him the contract.  Half way through, the foundation is poured, the plumbing has been roughed in, the house is framed up, the roof is on but not dried in as yet.  

Then, cracks begin to show up in the foundation.  At first, just hairline expansion cracks...you think.  Then they get larger and there is a differential between the two sides of the foundation as the cracks get larger still.

You do your own research and find out that not only did the foundation concrete have too much water, it was poured on a soft, untamped foundation.  Contractor says oops...I've go a job in Canada and I'm outa here.

Is it now easier to tear down the whole thing and start over or try to repair the poor workmanship?

MY suggestion was that you had picked the wrong contractor in the first place but you were enamored by his name and demanded to go against everyone who told you it was a bad decision.  

Now, after you refused to listen to reason from day one, you want US to fix your screw up.

Sure, it can be fixed, just don't whine and moan about the price.

Markle wrote:The first thing we need is a LEADER in the White House.  

For the past 7 1/2 years, we've had a "President" who prides himself on LEADING FROM BEHIND.  This is also the President who promised us that he would bring the races together and be loved by the Muslims.

Now we hear that is leaving more of our troops in danger in Afghanistan than he  promised when he took office and as recent as less than a year ago.

His plan worked so well in Iraq that we now have ISIS all over the Middle East and now Western Europe and the United States.  Quite a plan!

TOLD to not take all our troops out of Iraq, being a superior military strategist, he ignored all his advisors and pulled them all out.  

Now, he's sending them back in and lying to us about what they are doing.

So, the answer to anyone's question about what to do about ISIS is obvious.  just do the opposite of everything done by our Lame Duck "President".