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Britain votes to exit the EU

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1Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 12:52 am

2seaoat



Scary times are firmly upon us. European nationalism is growing daily. Hate speech and xenophobic policies are about to launch less national cooperation and more extremism..........History is sadly repeating itself. We have seen the rise of a racist fascist to be one party's presidential nominee as xenophobic fears and stoking racial and cultural fears have become the rule........We have never been in a more dangerous time, and the one thing we must learn from the last horror is that good people cannot sit back in silence and must crush this evil. Europe is heading down a very dark path when reps are murdered in the street, and America is having its own beer hall putsch.........a generation of economic cooperation, economic opportunity as Europe had become the largest GDP is now facing the same old wicked traditions......now will we have learned from history.

Guest


Guest

It's just one small temporary setback for world governance and the erosion of sovereignty. Be brave comrade.

Sal

Sal

Terror and hysteria win again!

Stay calm and shit your knickers.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/06/21/thomas-mair-brexit-and-us-uk-neo-nazi-connection

"Although illegal in Europe, inciting racial hatred is constitutionally protected speech and a lucrative cottage industry in the United States.

Notorious domestic terrorist groups like the Ku Klux Klan, with more than a century of bombings, lynchings and mayhem, are issued government permits to march down the streets of minority communities, usually with an armed police escort. Screaming and sputtering neo-Nazis, dressed in vintage WWII SS uniforms, have been similarly accommodated while they goosestep through Jewish neighborhoods. Parade permits are issued to hate group events even when law enforcement is fully aware of the high probability of violence.

In this country, hate groups have the legal right to express and incite racial hatred, call for the extermination of Jews, deny the Holocaust or harass and cyberstalk Jewish journalists on social media.

Technically, there is little the U.S. government or American society can do about homegrown hate. Unless these groups are directly linked to a violent crime they are free to propagate visceral hatred as a business model.

Even the most dangerous usually get a pass from federal law enforcement. These days, the FBI, for example, seems to consider the neo-Nazi National Alliance (NA) little more than a rapidly shrinking, “has-been” domestic extremist group plagued by infighting and incompetence since the death of the group’s founder, William Luther Pierce, 14 years ago.

Law enforcement and intelligence agencies overseas, however, are increasingly likely to view the ideology and influence of U.S. hate groups like the Alliance in a different context. Their propaganda is often illegal and their followers are increasingly violent. From Scotland Yard to Interpol, police are beginning to track the NA and monitor its supporters the same way they regard ISIS, Al-Qaeda or any other “violent non-state actor.”..."

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Guest


Guest

Gawd... that's about as far as a leftist propaganda talkingpoint diversion can go... lol.

6Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 10:04 am

2seaoat



Scotland, and believe it or not Northern Ireland are wanting new referendums to leave the United Kingdom and join the EU as separate nations......oops. When you pander to hate and xenophobic fears do not be surprised by the results. It is easy to want reactionary and hateful policies in America, but modernity keeps moving forward and cooperation. Money is pouring into America on 10 year bonds yielding a little over 1% and dropping as folks do not think interest rates are going to be rising because of the economic uncertainty, and the results will be even lower interest rates on home mortgages and business lines of credit. America remains the 400 lb economic gorilla in the world.

7Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 10:10 am

Sal

Sal

2seaoat wrote:Scotland, and believe it or not Northern Ireland are wanting new referendums to leave the United Kingdom and join the EU as separate nations......oops.  When you pander to hate and xenophobic fears do not be surprised by the results.   It is easy to want reactionary and hateful policies in America, but modernity keeps moving forward and cooperation.   Money is pouring into America on 10 year bonds yielding a little over 1% and dropping as folks do not think interest rates are going to be rising because of the economic uncertainty, and the results will be even lower interest rates on home mortgages and business lines of credit.   America remains the 400 lb economic gorilla in the world.

Make Great Britain Great Again!

Gawd, talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Wales might want out too.

8Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 10:14 am

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


And now PM Cameron has resigned...but will stay on until October for the "transition".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-cameron-resigns_us_576ca4a9e4b017b379f583e5?3t6q66d8wjpcpojemi&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=David%20Cameron%20Resigns&utm_content=David%20Cameron%20Resigns+CID_169c7bb00f8e3970181b664c13dce73b&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Read%20More

9Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 10:40 am

2seaoat



The Trump core is exactly the cross section of exit voters in Britain......old, white, poorly educated, and hysterical about little brown bags of garbage coming into Great Britain. I get a kick out of folks who want to allow evil to take over this country because Hillary Clinton is flawed......never has there been a more clear moral imperative in America. There are still traitors in our midst who would try to destroy these "united" States......again, they are the core Trump voters listening to rambling man while the exit voters are listening to Eric Clapton yelling white power.......WTF do we not learn anything from history. Did we all have Mr. Greenjeans teaching us history?

10Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 10:45 am

gatorfan



2seaoat wrote:The Trump core is exactly the cross section of exit voters in Britain......old, white, poorly educated, and hysterical about little brown bags of garbage coming into Great Britain.   I get a kick out of folks who want to allow evil to take over this country because Hillary Clinton is flawed......never has there been a more clear moral imperative in America.  There are still traitors in our midst who would try to destroy these "united" States......again, they are the core Trump voters listening to rambling man while the exit voters are listening to Eric Clapton yelling white power.......WTF do we not learn anything from history.   Did we all have Mr. Greenjeans teaching us history?

Your bigotry is on full display here Jabroni.

11Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 10:54 am

Sal

Sal

It's really incredible.

Ignorant British, in an effort to return to the role of a world power that's NEVER coming back, are going to badly damage their economy and bargaining clout.

Ignorant Americans, in an effort to return to a TV invention of a 1950s America that NEVER EVEN EXISTED, are supporting for President a vulgar talking yam who is running against two of the pillars that support the American economy - trade and cheap immigrant labor.

The terrorists' plan to goad Western economies into destroying themselves has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.



Last edited by Salinsky on 6/24/2016, 11:08 am; edited 2 times in total

12Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 10:54 am

2seaoat



Your bigotry is on full display here Jabroni.
Bigotry or disgust for those who try to make some human beings less than.....the same folks who hate Muslims, Mexicans, and blacks deserve no respect, and constant vigilance that their poison will not once again tear this great nation apart.   It is a clear moral imperative, crush the little brownshirts as good over evil will always win, but if good people want to give any credence to the dog whistle politics of the Southern strategy which is all about putting walls up between people......against all tenets of our founding fathers that all men are created equal........I vote for utter disgust, and will tell the truth as dog whistlers like yourself and Bob think the truth is bigotry.....it is not.   Evil needs to be identified and destroyed before it incubates.

13Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 11:05 am

gatorfan



2seaoat wrote:Your bigotry is on full display here Jabroni.
Bigotry or disgust for those who try to make some human beings less than.....the same folks who hate Muslims, Mexicans, and blacks deserve no respect, and constant vigilance that their poison will not once again tear this great nation apart.   It is a clear moral imperative, crush the little brownshirts as good over evil will always win, but if good people want to give any credence to the dog whistle politics of the Southern strategy which is all about putting walls up between people......against all tenets of our founding fathers that all men are created equal........I vote for utter disgust, and will tell the truth as dog whistlers like yourself and Bob think the truth is bigotry.....it is not.   Evil needs to be identified and destroyed before it incubates.

Your bigotry is that you paint an entire population with the same brush as those who deserve it. The Trumpets are idiots for propelling the lunatic to the forefront where he no chance of success at the end of the race. As much as I detest HRC for her lies and deceit I'll vote for her over the idiot Trumpster hoping Bill can exercise some moderation for her hawkish tendencies. That doesn't change the fact you are wrong about the majority of Americans who are more compassionate and accepting than you with all of your white guilt you carry around Jabroni.

14Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 11:13 am

gatorfan



Salinsky wrote:It's really incredible.

Ignorant British, in an effort to return to the role of a world power that's NEVER coming back, are going to badly damage their economy and bargaining clout.

Ignorant Americans, in an effort to return to a TV invention of a 1950s America that NEVER EVEN EXISTED, are supporting for President a vulgar talking yam who is running against two of the pillars that support the American economy - trade and cheap immigrant labor.

The terrorists' plan to goad Western economies into to destroying themselves has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

The Brexit issue go beyond immigration. Interference in the most mundane affairs of Britain by Big Brother in Brussels has more to do with their vote than anything. I agree with you about the unreal strategy of rapidly organized terrorist groups letting us and other countries do their dirty work for them though. Anything that causes change and discontent in their target country is a win for them.

Until those places spawning terrorists are given a better belief system we can't change the fact they hate us. The best way for us to start avoiding more incidents is to get the hell out of the Mid East.....

15Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 11:33 am

2seaoat



It is not bigotry to report on the actual voting of folks in the SEC states. If people want to think folks in these states have not lived dog whistle politics and the Nixon Southern strategy was not a conscious policy to tap into hate, then who are you chitting......just yourself, because the truth is it will take forty more years to purge the xenophobic and racial hatred in the once homogenus white ruling class of the south. Please understand there is no exclusivity in hate in America as my neighbor still flies the confederate flag of hate and sits in the town bar complaining about N's as he is 70 years old, high school educated, and his career was cutting grass at a golf course. He wears his kerchief.....drives a harley........at 70 still wears tee shirts which expose his large belly thinking he is a chick magnet, and is constantly is drunk, and has not lived around a black person in his life.......so please understand these fools are not organized in most of this nation by those politicians who control the other states, but in the Southern strategy of Nixon......he was willing to sacrifice the grand old party to pander to these fools.....and if it is bigotry to call this person a fool.....I am all in.

16Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 12:12 pm

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

PkrBum wrote:It's just one small temporary setback for world governanceand the erosion of sovereignty. Be brave comrade.

Yep... The Illuminati had a major setback yesterday.

The Bilderbergers and the globalist financial elites who want to rule the world by fiat and make us all fall under a one-world government must be scratching their heads.

They want to erode the sovereignty of nations through any means, including warfare. The peoples of the world are pushing back.

The next country to exit the EU will be Germany.

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17Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 12:22 pm

2seaoat



Having written my thesis on Latin American common markets, I have never bought into the financial centralized conspiracy. Common markets just make sense in regard to economies of scale, and a natural upgrade to the same is a world market free of corrupt tariffs to shore up inefficient national industries. Competition make Iowa corn much cheaper to produce per bushel than La. corn......yet in America our founding father's commerce clause had nothing to do with the Bildenberg conspiracy, rather just economic common sense where corrupt protectionist polices could free up the free movement of capital and products. I always laugh at the conspiracy being intergenerational........like I will be able to have my son take over the world.....and his son......and his son......idiocy. Wealth is transient, and those who control the same literally die off as whole new segments of the world are holders of wealth in the dynamic markets of the world......the cornering of the market 300 years ago was a reality, but today it is laughable.

18Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 12:35 pm

Guest


Guest

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
PkrBum wrote:It's just one small temporary setback for world governanceand the erosion of sovereignty. Be brave comrade.

Yep... The Illuminati had a major setback yesterday.

The Bilderbergers and the globalist financial elites who want to rule the world by fiat and make us all fall under a one-world government must be scratching their heads.

They want to erode the sovereignty of nations through any means, including warfare. The peoples of the world are pushing back.

The next country to exit the EU will be Germany.

France is grumbling too. What are the odds that there will be some cataclysmic event to bind them together?

19Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 12:42 pm

2seaoat



When prices take off in Britain like they did in Russia......you can bet the old farts who voted for this will have second thoughts, but the irony of this is in a falling currency, interest rates will rise, so our babyboomers get punished while these dumb f's will be getting four or five percent on their CD.......it is a complex world that we live.

20Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 1:51 pm

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

2seaoat wrote:The Trump core is exactly the cross section of exit voters in Britain......old, white, poorly educated, and hysterical about little brown bags of garbage coming into Great Britain.   I get a kick out of folks who want to allow evil to take over this country because Hillary Clinton is flawed......never has there been a more clear moral imperative in America.  There are still traitors in our midst who would try to destroy these "united" States......again, they are the core Trump voters listening to rambling man while the exit voters are listening to Eric Clapton yelling white power.......WTF do we not learn anything from history.   Did we all have Mr. Greenjeans teaching us history?

I loved Mr. Greenjeans. But, despite the political powers that be blaming immigration for Britain's woes, I think it's more about austerity economics, and a recovery that left out a large portion of the electorate...similar to what's happened here.

21Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/24/2016, 2:26 pm

2seaoat



Free trade raised the boat. However, there can be terrible economic dislocation, and when in a common market arrangement, folks blame the comparative advantage loss on bureaucrats or government. The alternate is to have Britain still manufacturing my old 68 Austin Healy, which I spent hundreds of hours working on the most Fd up manufactured vehicle I had ever seen, brake failure, constant electrical problems.....everywhere, but when you have protectionism you have an Austin Healy, and with free trade you have the reliability of a Toyota Prius.......sure some Brits got laid off, but it is governments role to anticipate economic dislocation and TRAIN your work force to meet the competition and excel once more. However, if the common perception is trade deals are rigged, and currencies are artificially manipulated(they are) you get political blow back from the science of economics. Our biggest failure was not being tougher on currency abuses, the devil in the detail of specific tariffs on imported goods, and most importantly subsidy to those who actually make things in America which would have brought ten fold return on government's investment. Instead we have a bunch of angry old people who feel like their lives have been stolen......wrong the prosperity of post WWII is largely due to incredible increases in productivity and trade.

22Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/25/2016, 4:41 am

Markle

Markle

The British "ELITE" were of the same opinion as the American "ELITE". They believe they have everything firmly in hand so that the voters control...nothing.

The grass roots in Britain saw the same thing with over regulation and mandates coming from a central government, far away in Brussels who knew nothing about them and about whom, THEY knew nothing.

The EU over-reached their original purpose. Sound familiar?

The British VOTER, the GRASS ROOTS got sick and tired of someone in Brussels telling them what hair dryer they could buy, what kettle they're allowed to buy, along with what toaster. Sound familiar?

I believe the straw that broke the British Voters back has been the massive refugee problem coming into Britain and their having nothing to say about it as they see cities all over the world being blown up by ISIS as the world leader sits meekly by watching. Sound familiar?

There will be a rough patch but it will sort itself out in less time than some expect. The EU brought this on themselves and my bet is that it will collapse in the not too distant future.

France, Denmark, Italy and Sweden are all now coming out in the open about their desire to do the same.

As he has done in many cases, Donald Trump forecast that this would happen and why. His advisors said not to go to Scotland but he ended up in the right place at the right time.

23Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/25/2016, 8:38 am

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


So you've climbed on the Trump train. How predictable. Party over people, every single time. Have you no shame?

24Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/26/2016, 7:27 am

Guest


Guest

This is among the real issues that make leaving the collectivist eu the correct decision... it's designed to fail currently.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0ZB0XY

Spaniards voted on Sunday in a parliamentary election in which the anti-austerity party Podemos is expected to make big gains, potentially delivering a fresh jolt to Europe's political mainstream after Britain voted to leave the European Union.

The last election, in December, broke the mold of 40 years of stable conservative or Socialist majorities and failed to produce a government, as upstart parties channeled growing resentment of the establishment following an economic crisis and a raft of corruption scandals.

Opinion polls suggest the parliament that emerges this time will be just as fragmented as the previous one. Four big parties and six smaller regional ones are likely to win seats in the 350-strong assembly, none of them coming close to a majority.

The center-right People's Party (PP) looks set to be the biggest party again, with around 120 seats. But its natural coalition partner, the liberal Ciudadanos ("Citizens"), appears likely to win only about 40 seats, leaving them well short of the 176 needed for a majority.

In theory, the rise of Unidos Podemos ("Together We Can"), a leftist alliance led by Podemos, could offer a way out. The 90 seats it is expected to win, combined with around 80 for the Socialist Party (PSOE), would be close to a majority. Support from some of the regional parties could enable them to form a government.

25Britain votes to exit the EU Empty Re: Britain votes to exit the EU 6/26/2016, 7:47 am

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Guest

http://www.politico.eu/article/sanctions-portugal-austerity-economy-minister-caldeira-cabral-budget-deficit-eurozone-growth-eurogroup-ecofin-eu-commission/

Punishing Portugal for missing its eurozone deficit target would send the wrong message to the rest of Europe about whether it’s worthwhile asking the population to make sacrifices, said Portuguese Economy Minister Manuel Caldeira Cabral.

Once the poster child for austerity, endorsed by German Chancellor Angela Merkel who visited the then center-right prime minister Pedro Passos Coelho in 2012 to show her support, Portugal has switched track in seven months of Socialist leadership.

Prime Minister António Costa has tried to raise consumer spending, while boosting the minimum wage and reintroducing four public holidays scrapped by his predecessor. Costa came second to Passos Coelho in last October’s elections but formed an alliance with the Left Bloc, the Communists and the Greens to oust the conservatives.

Lisbon risks fines from the European Commission for exceeding the eurozone budget deficit target of no more than 3 percent of economic output. In May, Portugal and neighboring Spain — their deficits are 5.1 and 4.4 percent of GDP respectively — got an extra year to reach their targets, mainly to avoid the prospect of sanctions influencing Spain’s elections on June 26.

However, Brussels is keeping up the pressure, with Eurogroup President Jeroen Dijsselbloem saying Tuesday he was worried about the credibility of the “guardians of the [stability and growth] pact” being undermined by a permissive approach to targets.

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