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Dick Cheney: Even bigger monster than you thought

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Hospital Bob

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http://www.salon.com/2013/11/14/dick_cheney_even_bigger_monster_than_you_thought/

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Cheney's comments to Larry King:
"When I came out from under the anesthetic after the transplant, I was euphoric. I’d had–I’d been given the gift of additional lives, additional years of life. For the family of the donor, they’d just been [through] some terrible tragedy, they’d lost a family member. Can’t tell why, obviously, when you don’t know the details, but the way I think of it from a psychological standpoint is that it’s my new heart, not someone else’s old heart. And I always thank the donor, generically thank donors for the gift that I’ve been given, but I don’t spend time wondering who had it, what they’d done, what kind of person."

So for his own peace of my, psychologically, he does not think of the circumstances for why he has his new heart. Understandable. Maybe he said it in a less than empathetic way but people have to do what they have to do to mentally mend from their medical issues.

He says he always thanks his donor, generically, for his gift.

But a good piece for this editor at large of Salon to get a stab in at Cheney.


Personally, I don't care for him. I'm sure his family is glad to have him alive. Too bad for those who don't make it - waiting on donors - because they are not a former VP.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Five different deferments to avoid military service during Vietnam.
Why?  "I had other priorities".

This is the same person who moved through the revolving doors from Secretary of Defense to CEO of a corporation profiting from war,  and then from that back to the Vice Presidency when he then convinced an empty headed hayseed to kill and maim tens of thousands of young Americans in an even dumber war than Vietnam.

And the hayseed's father has now actually gone public to tell us what he really thinks of Cheney...

“I’ve never been that close to him anyway… There’s a lack of humility, a lack of seeing what the other guy thinks"


Which aptly applies to this as well.

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I do not see him as a stellar feller.  But it is always interesting to me how once you fail in one area all areas are open territory for the journalist to gain ground in an article against him...again.

Go find a new story, Salon editor at large.

I mean honestly, we know this guy has flaws.  What do we want to do, hang him in the town square?

Rolling Eyes  While morally lacking did he do what was outside the law?  If so, point out the law.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

No one is going to miss that turd when his replacement heart decides to stop ticking. You don't hear much from him these days, so I would bet that his post-transplant quality of life is not very good.

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

SheWrites wrote:I do not see him as a stellar feller.  But it is always interesting to me how once you fail in one area all areas are open territory for the journalist to gain ground in an article against him...again.

Go find a new story, Salon editor at large.

I mean honestly, we know this guy has flaws.  What do we want to do, hang him in the town square?

Rolling Eyes  While morally lacking did he do what was outside the law?  If so, point out the law.

For starters, he (and Bush et al) lied (935 times) about the need to attack Iraq. Then, they all profited handsomely. For that alone, he's beyond despicable. But the evil never stops:



Genies and Genocide: Syria, Israel, Russia and Much Oil

http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/26/genies-and-genocide-syria-israel-russia-and-much-oil-2/

The geopolitical stakes in the Middle East have just gotten higher by an order of magnitude. Take a little-known Newark, New Jersey oil company, the contested Golan Heights between Syria and Israel, add a reported major oil discovery there just as Russia’s bombing campaign in Syria goes into high gear, shake it vigorously and we have a potential detonator for World War III.

Initially–going back more than a decade when Washington neo-conservative think-tanks and the Bush-Cheney Administration were devising their Greater Middle East regime-change agenda–competing natural gas pipelines through Syria to Turkey or via Lebanon to the Mediterranean played a definite “supporting” role in Washington’s war on Syria’s Assad. Now oil, lots of oil, comes into the play, and Israel is claiming it’s theirs. The only problem is that it isn’t. The oil is in the Golan Heights which Israel illegally took from Syria in the 1967 Six Day War.

Genie in a stinky bottle

What do Dick Cheney, James Woolsey, Bill Richardson, Jacob Lord Rothschild, Rupert Murdock, Larry Summers and Michael Steinhardt have in common? They all are members of the Strategic Advisory Board of a Newark, New Jersey-based oil and gas group with the name, Genie Energy. It’s quite a collection of names.

Dick Cheney, before becoming George W. Bush’s “shadow president” in 2001, was CEO of the world’s largest oilfield services company, Halliburton, also reported to be a CIA-linked company tied to the Bush family cabal. James Woolsey, a neo-con former CIA Director under Bill Clinton, today sits as the chairman of the neo-con think-tank, Foundation for Defense of Democracies, and is a member of the pro-Likud Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP). He was a member of the infamous Project for a New American Century (PNAC), along with Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and a gaggle of neo-cons who later staffed the Bush-Cheney administration. After September 11, 2001 Woolsey referred to the Bush-Cheney War on Terror as “World War IV,” counting the Cold War as World War III. Bill Richardson is a former US Secretary of Energy. Rupert Murdock, owner of major US and UK media including the Wall Street Journal, is the major financier of the neo-conservative Weekly Standard of Bill Kristol, who founded the PNAC. Larry Summers was US Treasury Secretary and drafted the laws that deregulated US banks from the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act, in effect opening the floodgates to the US financial crisis of 2007-2015. Michael Steinhardt the hedge fund speculator, is a philanthropic friend of Israel, of Marc Rich and a board member of Woolsey’s neo-con Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. And Jacob Lord Rothschild is a former business partner of convicted Russian oil oligarch, Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Before his arrest Khodorkovsky secretly transferred his shares in Yukos Oil to Rothschild. Rothschild is a part-owner of Genie Energy which in 2013 was granted exclusive oil and gas exploration rights to a 153-square mile radius in the southern part of the Golan Heights by the Netanyahu government. In short, it’s quite an eye-popping board.

Golan Heights and international law

The Israeli government gave the concession to Genie in the disputed Golan Heights in 2013 when the US-led destabilization of the Syrian Assad regime was in full force. Conveniently, Israel also began building fortifications at that time to seal off the illegally-occupied Golan Heights from Syria, knowing there was little Assad or Syria could do to stop it. In 2013, as Genie Energy began moving into Golan Heights, Israeli military engineers overhauled the forty-five mile border fence with Syria, replacing it with a steel barricade that includes barbed wire, touch sensors, motion detectors, infrared cameras, and ground radar, putting it on par with the Wall Israel has constructed in the West Bank.

Now, as Damascus fights for its life, apparently, Genie has discovered a huge oil field precisely there.

The Golan Heights, however, are illegally occupied by Israel. In 1981, Israel passed the Golan Heights Law, imposing Israeli “laws, jurisdiction and administration” to the Golan Heights. In response the UN Security Council passed Resolution 242 which declared Israel must withdraw from all lands occupied in the 1967 war with Syria, including the Golan Heights.

Again in 2008 a plenary session of the UN General Assembly passed a resolution 161–1 in favor of a motion on the Golan Heights that reaffirmed Security Council resolution 497, which was passed in 1981 after the Israeli de facto annexation, declaring the Golan Heights Law, “null and void and without international legal effect,” and called on Israel to desist from “changing the physical character, demographic composition, institutional structure and legal status of the occupied Syrian Golan and, in particular, to desist from the establishment of settlements…from imposing Israeli citizenship and Israeli identity cards on the Syrian citizens in the occupied Syrian Golan and from its repressive measures against the population of the occupied Syrian Golan.” Israel was the only nation to vote against the resolution. As recently as June 2007 Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert sent a secret communique to Syrian President Bashar Assad saying that Israel would concede the Golan Heights in exchange for a comprehensive peace agreement and the severing of Syria’s ties with Iran and militant groups in the region.

Genie claims huge discovery

On October 8, into the second week of Russian airstrikes against ISIS and other so-called “moderate” terrorists at the request of the Assad government, Yuval Bartov, chief geologist from Genie Energy’s Israeli subsidiary, Afek Oil & Gas, told Israel’s Channel 2 TV that his company had found a major oil reservoir on the Golan Heights: “We’ve found an oil stratum 350 meters thick in the southern Golan Heights. On average worldwide, strata are 20 to 30 meters thick, and this is 10 times as large as that, so we are talking about significant quantities.”

This oil find has now made the Golan Heights a strategic “prize” that clearly has the Netanyahu government more determined than ever to sow chaos and disorder in Damascus and use that to de facto create an Israeli irreversible occupation of Golan and its oil. A minister in the Netanyahu coalition government, Naftali Bennett, Minister of Education and Minister of Diaspora Affairs and leader of the right-wing religious party, The Jewish Home, has made a proposal that Israel settle 100,000 new Israeli settlers across the Golan in five years. He argues that with Syria “disintegrating” after years of civil war, it’s hard to imagine a stable state to which the Golan Heights could be returned. Further a growing chorus in Tel Aviv is arguing that Netanyahu demand American recognition of Israel’s 1981 annexation of the Golan as an “appropriate salve to Israeli security concerns in the wake of the nuclear deal with Iran.”

Energy war has been a significant component of US, Israeli, Qatari, Turkish, and, until recently, Saudi, strategy against Syria’s Assad regime. Before the latest Golan Heights oil discovery, the focus on Assad pivoted on the huge regional natural gas resources of both Qatar and of Iran on opposite sides of the Persian Gulf, comprising the largest known gas discovery in the world to date.

In 2009 the government of Qatar, today home to the Muslim Brotherhood and a major funder of ISIS in Syria and Iraq, met with Bashar al-Assad in Damascus.

Qatar proposed to Bashar that Syria join in an agreement to allow a transit gas pipeline from Qatar’s huge North Field in the Persian Gulf adjacent to Iran’s huge South Pars gas field. The Qatari pipeline would have gone through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and on to Turkey to supply European markets. Most crucially, it would bypass Russia. An Agence France-Presse report claimed Assad’s rationale was “to protect the interests of his Russian ally, which is Europe’s top supplier of natural gas.” In 2010 Assad instead joined talks with Iran and Iraq for an alternative $10 billion pipeline plan that would also potentially allow Iran to supply gas to Europe from its South Pars field in the Iranian waters of the Persian Gulf. The three countries signed a Memorandum of Understanding in July 2012 – just as Syria’s civil war was spreading to Damascus and Aleppo.

Now an apparent discovery of huge volumes of oil by a New Jersey oil company whose board includes Iraq war architect, Dick Cheney, neo-con ex-CIA head James Woolsey, and Jacob Lord Rothschild, business partner of one of Vladimir Putin’s most bitter critics, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, bring the stakes of the Russian intervention on behalf of Syria’s Assad against ISIS, Al Qaeda and other CIA-backed “moderate” terrorists” to a new geopolitical dimension. The US coup in Ukraine in 2014, and its financing and training of ISIS and other “moderate” terrorist gangs in Syria all have one prime target–Russia and her network of allies, a network, ironically, which Washington and Israeli policies are expanding almost by the hour.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.

http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/26/genies-and-genocide-syria-israel-russia-and-much-oil-2/

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Nice copy paste......you do that well.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

SheWrites wrote:
While morally lacking did he do what was outside the law?  If so, point out the law.

No he didn't break the law and neither did the Congressmen/Congresswomen and Senators who went along with him.

But sometimes behaving immorally can cause more harm than breaking a law.
Hitler obeyed his laws too.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Joanimaroni wrote:Nice copy paste......you do that well.

KMA, Nurse Rachet.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Bob wrote:
SheWrites wrote:
While morally lacking did he do what was outside the law?  If so, point out the law.

No he didn't break the law and neither did the Congressmen/Congresswomen and Senators who went along with him.  

But sometimes behaving immorally can cause more harm than breaking a law.
Hitler obeyed his laws too.  


Of course he and Bush et al violated the law by lying the country into war, causing the death and/or maiming of American soldiers; he violated international law by ignoring the Geneva Conventions against torture, and (I maintain) by killing US private citizens on 9/11/01. He's also violated natural law ...killing other human beings for profit and referring to them as "collateral damage." Please don't defend the war criminals, who also lied to Congress and sent letters with anthrax to strategically quell any opposition to the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Damaged Eagle

Damaged Eagle

Dick Cheney: Even bigger monster than you thought  Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPD3_5Lv1wZC29UwNWEDr2_LateI9nCalmPIdAbUAKKSQ0W5Cu

Perhaps all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals could hold a poll as to whether to hang him or not since it's obvious you've already held the trial.

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Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Floridatexan wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Nice copy paste......you do that well.

KMA, Nurse Rachet.

Now now.....I see you are a copy cat as well.

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Anyone from the Bush years is subject to scrutiny the rest of their lives. But I say put up or shut up. Same with Hillary or with President Obama.

It's a tired subject.

Lets move on...

Telstar

Telstar

Floridatexan wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Nice copy paste......you do that well.

KMA, Nurse Rachet.




Cool

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Joanimaroni wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Nice copy paste......you do that well.

KMA, Nurse Rachet.

Now now.....I see you are a copy cat as well.

Telstar was right on. "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". You can't stand losing, can you?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Floridatexan wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Nice copy paste......you do that well.

KMA, Nurse Rachet.

Now now.....I see you are a copy cat as well.

Telstar was right on.  "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".  You can't stand losing, can you?  



Losing what?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

SheWrites wrote:Anyone from the Bush years is subject to scrutiny the rest of their lives.  But I say put up or shut up.  Same with Hillary or with President Obama.  

It's a tired subject.  

Lets move on...

Yes...it's an old tired subject, but no less relevant today than it was at the time. And there's no statute of limitations on murder.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

That was a good article, FT. I recently read a similar one about a major oil find in the Golan Heights.

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:That was a good article, FT. I recently read a similar one about a major oil find in the Golan Heights.
Dick Cheney: Even bigger monster than you thought  Draft+dodgers+in+cheif

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Floridatexan wrote:
SheWrites wrote:Anyone from the Bush years is subject to scrutiny the rest of their lives.  But I say put up or shut up.  Same with Hillary or with President Obama.  

It's a tired subject.  

Lets move on...

Yes...it's an old tired subject, but no less relevant today than it was at the time. And there's no statute of limitations on murder.

http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/04/abdulrahman-al-awlaki-obama-drone

On Thursday, President Barack Obama appeared in the White House press room to reveal that a US strike in January on an Al Qaeda compound had killed two hostages held by the terrorist group, Giovanni Lo Porto, an Italian, and Warren Weinstein, an American. He offered his condolences to their families for the mistake that led to their deaths.

It's remarkable that Obama spoke of this at all. The US targeted killing program is shrouded in secrecy, and the president had never before issued a statement like this about people accidentally killed by US drone strikes. (He did not use the word "drone.") One such death that stands out is that of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a 16-year-old American citizen who was killed in a US drone strike.

Abdulrahman was the son of Anwar al-Awlaki, the radical cleric turned Al Qaeda propagandist. The father was killed in a drone strike that targeted him in Yemen in September 2011. The son was killed weeks later in a separate strike in Yemen. According to his family, the attack was on a restaurant. Attorney General Eric Holder later said that this strike did not "specifically" target the young man.

The US government has never said that Abdulrahman was involved in terrorist activities. In 2012, I asked Obama during a Reddit AMA what he thought about the teen's death, and the question received hundreds of votes from Redditors, meaning the president and/or his social-media team almost certainly noticed it. Yet Obama didn't respond.

Now that he's established the precedent of explaining the killings of US citizens in targeted strikes, Obama and the administration might see fit to say what happened in the case of Abdulrahman.

Damaged Eagle

Damaged Eagle

SheWrites wrote:Anyone from the Bush years is subject to scrutiny the rest of their lives.  But I say put up or shut up.  Same with Hillary or with President Obama.  

It's a tired subject.  

Lets move on...

Dick Cheney: Even bigger monster than you thought  Th?&id=OIP.M1e9e3450cccd4868f74dbc81990959b0o0&w=300&h=196&c=0&pid=1

No! I do believe there should be a supposedly (fart) liberal poll on the matter...

That way there can be a good ol' fashion lynchin' to satisfy their supposedly (fart) liberal blood lust.

*********FART********

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxDcWvZCSRg

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Like the new pic,DE. Just how I thought you would look.

Vikingwoman



Now that I know somebody put that there I can't stop laughing! I thought you changed it to that. Too funny!

Vikingwoman



Still can't stop laughing! Great avatar pic.

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