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Former President Bill Clinton losing the silver tongue. Tells MARINE to SHUT UP AND LISTEN!

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Markle

Markle

Sure looks like former President Clinton is losing his silver tongue. Either that or he's getting a bit senile.

This could be a new bumper sticker for Hillary! "SHUT UP AND LISTEN"!

Bill Clinton tells Marine “If you’ll shut up and listen” when addressing question about Hillary
Wayne Dupree 2/27/2016

Wow! As a veteran, I find this arrogance unwarranted and gutter talk from a former Commander-In-Chief!

Here is Bill Clinton being confronted by a Marine in Bluffton, South Carolina about Hillary Clinton’s covering up what happened in the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi. The man was eventually thrown out of the event. Clinton said, “If you’ll shut up and listen, I’ll answer your questions.”

A woman in the crowd then spoke up and shouted at Clinton, “Hillary lied over four coffins.” She asked Clinton if he believes those four families lied about Hillary blaming the deaths of four Americans on a video.

Former President Bill Clinton losing the silver tongue. Tells MARINE to SHUT UP AND LISTEN! Bill-clinton-tells-marine-if-you-480x330_zpsva3s6ifh

http://newsninja2012.com/bill-clinton-tells-marine-if-youll-shut-up-and-listen-when-addressing-question-about-hillary/

dumpcare



I saw the video clip also and I too would have told the marine to shut up. Don't ask me a question and keep on talking bullshit without letting me answer. Even if Bill was going to answer the marine would not shut his mouth.

2seaoat



Former President Clinton was not extended respect so why should he extend respect. Who cares if someone was a marine. I don't care. Some of the biggest F'ups in my high school went into the military....not many, but they did not magically become something they were not upon enlistment. This fascist honoring of everything military has to come to an end.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

I'd say the Marine was out of order. He probably has been brain-washed by far-right luminaries like Rush Limbaugh, etc. (just like poster Obamasucks). Marines serve under whoever is President of the United States and do their duty.

That Marine was probably just a toddler when Bill Clinton was POTUS, and if Mrs. Clinton becomes POTUS, he is obligated to complete his enlistment and follow the orders of his superiors and do his duty. He can choose to not re-enlist if he does not want to serve in the military with Mrs. Clinton as CIC.

I hope he was both off-duty and out of uniform when he heckled former-president Clinton.

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM



Here is the actual video. The heckler is a former Marine and combat vet. The heckler was way out of line, probably suffering from PTSD, and someone did need to ask him to sit down. The audience booed the heckler for his very out of line comments and yelled at him to sit down. The heckler would not, thus President Clinton asked him to 'shut up.' Security had to escort him out as he continued to shout. I am sure PD was cheering this man's outlandish behavior.

No wonder poster Markle did not include the video in his original post.....

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Now the wing nuts can't say that liberals are too disrespectful to Republican politicians...... There are extremes on both sides...... I would have expected security to silence extremists on the left had there been shouting like that at a Ted Cruz or Donald Trump speech.

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Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Former President Clinton was not extended respect so why should he extend respect.  Who cares if someone was a marine.  I don't care.  Some of the biggest F'ups in my high school went into the military....not many, but they did not magically become something they were not upon enlistment.  This fascist honoring of everything military has to come to an end.

VOTERS care that it was a Marine.

In his day, President Clinton would have handled that much better. Respect for Bill and Hillary has also plummeted since Bill was in office. When the first word most people think of when they hear the name Hillary Clinton is LIAR. It's also become an issue for them Hillary accepting and denigrating all of Bill's ladies and then saying she supports women.

Bill doesn't have the magnetism he was in office and a younger man.

2seaoat



I think the 99% of Americans who have not been in the armed services have tired of the fascist state where somehow we should honor war. That ship has left. We are war weary, and we are tired of the constant drum beat for more war. It starts by becoming a fascist state and in lock step thinking something is sacred about getting a government paycheck......I think it is time to honor folks who have built companies and jobs and grown America, rather than having more reverence for government teat suckers.....sorry, I have had my fill of the fascist state and you do not destroy the same until you stop the fiction of all former armed service folks are sacred....they are not.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:VOTERS care that it was a Marine.

He was no longer on active duty, and he would have been an embarrassment to his military superiors had he been on active duty. Marines are taught to be respectful when dealing with the public.

This was an incident where two crazy wing nuts (one had once been an active duty Marine), a man and a woman, tried to disrupt the speech by former President Clinton. The audience told the man to shut up and sit down before Mr. Clinton did, and when he would not, police escorted him out of the building. Then, his female accomplice (the one filming the video) started shouting, and the police escorted her out as well.

I am sure they hurried home so they could in eagerness post the video on YouTube. They were in this for the sensationalism, that is all.

The First Amendment protected their right to heckle, but it was not wrong to force them to leave. Mama must have not taught either of them any manners when they were young.

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

2seaoat wrote:I think the 99% of Americans who have not been in the armed services have tired of the fascist state where somehow we should honor war.   That ship has left.   We are war weary, and we are tired of the constant drum beat for more war.  It starts by becoming a fascist state and in lock step thinking something is sacred about getting a government paycheck......I think it is time to honor folks who have built companies and jobs and grown America, rather than having more reverence for government teat suckers.....sorry, I have had my fill of the fascist state and you do not destroy the same until you stop the fiction of all former armed service folks are sacred....they are not.

I am a veteran and I do agree with you.

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knothead

knothead

They were clearly plants and executing their mission . . . . . nothing more!

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

That's nothing,  Trump wants his hecklers to "get punched in the mouth".  lol

Vikingwoman



It was disgraceful what that guy did and him being a marine is as impressive as a kumquat.

RealLindaL



knothead wrote:They were clearly plants and executing their mission . . . . . nothing more!

My thought exactly.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Why should anyone give a damn whether the heckler was Marine or not? Take a close look at the kind of men who become Marines -- very few if any of them are known for their intelligence. None are known for their compassion or empathy. They are famous for their destructiveness and bold male-style aggressiveness. If you need a nutcase to charge a machine gun emplacement, call a Marine. Face it, Marine's aren't thinkers. No thinker would willingly devote himself to war-making, at the whim of politicians who don't hesitate to decimate his or her kind in pursuit of "national interests," (read dominating an economic resource or the economy of some foreign country).

Harmony is a proper diplomatic goal of political leaders of every stripe. Marines are the aggressive go-for-broke warriors you call in when the issue has become desperate. No parent in his or her right mind wants their little boy or girl to dedicate themselves to the art of destructiveness and killing.

To assign some sort of political holiness to a current or former Marine because he or she serves the Corps is in essence, the celebration of man's destructive qualities.

Fuck war. Fuck Amerika's addiction to military force, and fuck all those who insist that we celebrate our best killers.

Guest


Guest

Staged.

Wonder if Bill ever says this to Hillary. Laughing

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

SheWrites wrote:Staged.

Wonder if Bill ever says this to Hillary.  Laughing

Interesting. I wonder if she says it to him?

Guest


Guest

Who dominates is totally their business. But we can guess... Laughing

Markle

Markle

SheWrites wrote:Staged.

Wonder if Bill ever says this to Hillary.  Laughing

Do they live together?

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:I think the 99% of Americans who have not been in the armed services have tired of the fascist state where somehow we should honor war. That ship has left. We are war weary, and we are tired of the constant drum beat for more war. It starts by becoming a fascist state and in lock step thinking something is sacred about getting a government paycheck......I think it is time to honor folks who have built companies and jobs and grown America, rather than having more reverence for government teat suckers.....sorry, I have had my fill of the fascist state and you do not destroy the same until you stop the fiction of all former armed service folks are sacred....they are not.

As you know, we do not honor war, we honor those people who are willing to serve and do the things many cannot do.

The vast majority of all former armed service folks are, indeed, heroes.

The word sacred is, for me, reserved for:

sa·cred
[ˈsākrəd]
ADJECTIVE
connected with God (or the gods) or dedicated to a religious purpose and so deserving veneration:

Vikingwoman



Oh stop that bullshit,Markle! You're not a hero just because you served in the military! My ex-husband retired from the military and he was no hero. Never saw combat and sat at a desk in the personnel office all his career because he couldn't get a better paying job on the outside.

Markle

Markle

Vikingwoman wrote:Oh stop that bullshit,Markle! You're not a hero just because you served in the military! My ex-husband retired from the military and he was no hero. Never saw combat and sat at a desk in the personnel office all his career because he couldn't get a better paying job on the outside.

I never claimed to be a hero.

Men and women who serve behind the lines are heroes as well.

I'm not surprised you are so vindictive and derogatory toward your ex-husband. Your husband served honorably in a decent paying position and earned a decent retirement. If he was abusive, he belongs in a trash pile.

Yes, there might have been higher paying jobs in the civilian sector. A job in the military is secure and no risk.

I chose a high risk, high reward career. For most people, that is not something they can handle.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Vikingwoman wrote:Oh stop that bullshit,Markle! You're not a hero just because you served in the military! My ex-husband retired from the military and he was no hero. Never saw combat and sat at a desk in the personnel office all his career because he couldn't get a better paying job on the outside.

I never claimed to be a hero.

Men and women who serve behind the lines are heroes as well.

I'm not surprised you are so vindictive and derogatory toward your ex-husband.  Your husband served honorably in a decent paying position and earned a decent retirement.  If he was abusive, he belongs in a trash pile.

Yes, there might have been higher paying jobs in the civilian sector.  A job in the military is secure and no risk.

I chose a high risk, high reward career.  For most people, that is not something they can handle.


What did America do for itself by defending S. Korea? By our involvement in Vietnam? Somalia. Kosovo. Iraq. Afghanistan, Libya, etc.?

There was a draft that forced Americans into our wars in Korea and Vietnam. Anyone who was forced into war and somehow survived, deserves our deepest respect. As for the volunteer soldiers who make-up our military forces through all the other wars, they are no different than mercenaries. Not one of the conflicts after Vietnam accomplished anything for American wealth, health, safety, or prestige. If you want to celebrate professional military workers who are dedicated to killing whoever their bosses aim them at, that's your business. Don't expect the rest of us to genuflect at barbarity. It is virtually impossible to honor the service of a person who serves an evil cause. How is one to support our soldiers if they are used in wars which we view as evil, wasteful, tragic and unnecessary?

Some 50,000 plus Americans died in the insanity of America's elective war on Vietnam. 4,800 have died thus far in Iraq, and we're not out of their yet. Our losses in Afghanistan are approaching 3,000. There's talk of starting No-Fly zones in Syria -- requiring boots on the ground, and there are Neocons like Markle who at every opportunity urge us to start a new war against Iran.

Fuck War and Volunteer, Professional Warriors! Down with Amerika Inc! The only people who have profited from our wars in Vietnam and afterward are the people who produce and sell weaponry. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROFITED FROM OUR RECENT WARS ARE THE BLOODSUCKING CORPORATIONS WHO PRODUCE WAR SHIT.

Reality!

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

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2seaoat



My reverence for the military dropped significantly when we went with an all mercenary military. The soldier citizen sacrificing defending their country is not the norm, and now the norm is a mercenary force fighting to secure the Oligarchy's oil and control of the world. Sadly, what Dreams described is the reality . It simply is time to quit honoring things connected to war and the killing of innocents. I certainly am not suggesting to dishonor those who chose to become mercenaries, but the days of the citizen soldier are over. This is mostly about a paycheck and some stupid American adventurism which results in hundreds of thousands of innocents dying. Enough with the fascist symbolism, and it is time to heed our founding father's warnings about standing armies. They destroy democracy and the very fabric of our country.

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