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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/donald-trump-white-supremacists-216620


GOP 2016!!!


The Ku Klux Klan is using Donald Trump as a talking point in its outreach efforts. Stormfront, the most prominent American white supremacist website, is upgrading its servers in part to cope with a Trump traffic spike. And former Louisiana Rep. David Duke reports that the businessman has given more Americans cover to speak out loud about white nationalism than at any time since his own political campaigns in the 1990s.

As hate group monitors at the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League warn that Trump’s rhetoric is conducive to anti-Muslim violence, white nationalist leaders are capitalizing on his candidacy to invigorate and expand their movement.

“Demoralization has been the biggest enemy and Trump is changing all that,” said Stormfront founder Don Black, who reports additional listeners and call volume to his phone-in radio show, in addition to the site’s traffic bump. Black predicts that the white nationalist forces set in motion by Trump will be a legacy that outlives the businessman’s political career.

“He’s certainly creating a movement that will continue independently of him even if he does fold at some point.”

Trump does not belong to or endorse white supremacist groups. He has said that he does not need or want Duke’s endorsement and his campaign has fired two staffers over racist posts on social media. A man displaying a Confederate flag was ejected from a Trump rally in Virginia earlier this month.

But its leaders consistently say that Trump's rhetoric about minority groups has successfully tapped into simmering racial resentments long ignored by mainstream politicians and that he has brought more attention to their agenda than any American political figure in years. It is a development many of them see as a golden opportunity.

Meanwhile, analysts from the two leading organizations that track violence against minority groups say Trump is energizing hate groups and creating an atmosphere likely to lead to more violence against American Muslims.
According to experts at the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center who monitor hate groups and anti-Muslim sentiment, Trump’s call on Monday to halt the entrance of Muslims to the United States is driving online chatter among white supremacists and is likely to inspire violence against Muslims.

“When well-known public figures make these kind of statements in the public square, they are taken as a permission-giving by criminal elements who go out and act on their words.” said Mark Potok of the SPLC. “Is it energizing the groups? Yeah. They’re thrilled.”

Marilyn Mayo, co-director of the ADL’s Center on Extremism, said Trump’s proposal this week to halt the entrance of Muslims into the United States is only the latest statement to inject vigor into the racist fringe of American politics. “Since the beginning of Donald Trump’s candidacy, we’ve definitely seen that a segment of the white supremacist movement, from racist intellectuals to neo-Nazis have been energized,” she said.

A spokeswoman for the Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment.

His rhetoric on minority groups has been condemned as racist by political observers on both the left and right and by the protesters who regularly interrupt his rallies. In his announcement speech in June, Trump said of undocumented Mexican immigrants, “They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” After terror attacks killed 130 in Paris last month, he entertained the creation of a national database of all Muslims. On Monday, after Muslim extremists shot 14 dead in California earlier this month, Trump called for a halt on the entrance of Muslims into the United States.

The white racist fringe of American politics is a fragmented one, where attitudes toward Trump range from full-fledged embrace to cautious optimism to skepticism.

Black of Stormfront said Trump's rhetoric has been a boon to white nationalists. “He has sparked an insurgency and I don’t think it’s going to go away,” he told POLITICO of Trump.

Black, who said his site receives a million unique visitors a month, said Trump has helped drive a steady increase in traffic in recent months – including 30-40 percent spikes when the businessman makes news on immigration or Muslims – that is compelling him to upgrade his servers.
Rachel Pendergraft, a spokeswoman for the Arkansas-based Knights Party, which considers itself the national standard-bearer for the KKK, said the group encourages its members to engage with their communities through apolitical volunteer work and, at the right moment, steer conversation toward race and “white genocide.”

Trump, she said, has offered KKK members a prime opportunity to feel out potential recruits on their racial attitudes. “Right now he is a major talking point. He is in the news a lot.”

Duke, a former grand wizard of the KKK and perhaps the most notorious racist intellectual in the United States, said Trump, a successful businessman and the subject of nonstop media coverage, has given Americans license to more openly voice their racial animus.

“He’s made it ok to talk about these incredible concerns of European Americans today, because I think European Americans know they are the only group that can’t defend their own essential interests and their point of view,” Duke said. “He’s meant a lot for the human rights of European Americans.”

Even those white supremacists who remain unconvinced that Trump is one of them welcome his entrance to the political arena. “As long as he’s causing chaos and havoc with the citizens, he’s fine with me,” said former KKK leader Tom Metzger, founder of the racial separatist group White Aryan Resistance. “I love it.”

But like other white nationalist leaders, Metzger – who served jail time for unlawful assembly for taking part in a cross burning in California – said he was skeptical that Trump would actually follow through on many of the proposals that appeal to them most. That includes the businessman’s latest call to halt the entrance of Muslims into the country. “It’s going to get people excited and it could get out of hand … He’d have to employ the military to do it, and I don’t think they’re going to do that.”

Brad Griffin, publisher of the white nationalist blog Occidental Dissent, is among Trump’s skeptics. “Do we honestly believe that he’s going to block all the Muslims and deport all the illegals?” he said. “I think he’s doing a lot of this just to signal to people that he’s on their side.”

Griffin said that he was most enthusiastic about Trump’s candidacy this summer, but that his fervor has cooled since seeing details of the businessman’s tax and trade policies, which hew more closely to mainstream Republican positions than he had hoped.

Griffin said his white nationalist circles remain divided.

“There are people who are really excited about Trump and are true believers and there are people who believe Trump is just a politician. He’s brought attention to a lot of our issues, but those were our issues 20 years ago.”


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Well, let's put things a little bit more in perspective, shall we?

I hear Nation of Islam recently endorsed Bernie Sanders.

Does that mean Bernie subscribes to their ideology?




Since its founding in 1930, the Nation of Islam (NOI) has grown into one of the wealthiest and best-known organizations in black America, offering numerous programs and events designed to uplift African Americans. Nonetheless, its bizarre theology of innate black superiority over whites — a belief system vehemently and consistently rejected by mainstream Muslims — and the deeply racist, anti-Semitic and anti-gay rhetoric of its leaders, including top minister Louis Farrakhan, have earned the NOI a prominent position in the ranks of organized hate.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam

In 2007 NOI's core membership was estimated at between 20,000 & 50,000 ... that's gotta be far more than all the KKK groups combined.

boards of FL

boards of FL

EmeraldGhost wrote:Well, let's put things a little bit more in perspective, shall we?

I hear Nation of Islam recently endorsed Bernie Sanders.

Does that mean Bernie subscribes to their ideology?




Since its founding in 1930, the Nation of Islam (NOI) has grown into one of the wealthiest and best-known organizations in black America, offering numerous programs and events designed to uplift African Americans. Nonetheless, its bizarre theology of innate black superiority over whites — a belief system vehemently and consistently rejected by mainstream Muslims — and the deeply racist, anti-Semitic and anti-gay rhetoric of its leaders, including top minister Louis Farrakhan, have earned the NOI a prominent position in the ranks of organized hate.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam  

In 2007 NOI's core membership was estimated at between 20,000 & 50,000 ... that's gotta be far more than all the KKK groups combined.


I haven't heard Sanders say that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.  I haven't heard Sanders say anything that would even indirectly suggest that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.

I can't say the same about Donald Trump and white supremacy.  Can you?


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boards of FL wrote:


I haven't heard Sanders say that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.  I haven't heard Sanders say anything that would even indirectly suggest that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.

I can't say the same about Donald Trump and white supremacy.  Can you?

Oh wow, I haven't heard him say anything about being an advocate of white supremacism .... you got a Trump quote to back that claim up with?

(surely you wouldn't just make it up? Shocked )

boards of FL

boards of FL

EmeraldGhost wrote:
boards of FL wrote:


I haven't heard Sanders say that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.  I haven't heard Sanders say anything that would even indirectly suggest that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.

I can't say the same about Donald Trump and white supremacy.  Can you?

Oh wow, I haven't heard him say anything about being an advocate of white supremacism .... you got a Trump quote to back that claim up with?

(surely you wouldn't just make it up?   Shocked    )



I have no quotes from Trump explicitly saying "I support white supremacy".  Though Trump has made several comments and tweets that indirectly suggest as much.  That was the point.  Sanders, on the other hand, has said nothing that would even indirectly indicate he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.  

Regarding Trump, here is a tweet that he made last month where he cites fabricated black crime statistics from an organization - Crime Statistic Bureau - that doesn't exist.

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Here he is broadly labeling all Mexican immigrants as rapists and drug dealers:

The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems. … When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.



Here his is doing his best impression of asian negotiators:




I could go on, though I suspect that if you 1) watch the news and 2) are unaware of anything that Trump has said or tweeted by now that is racist, there probably isn't anything that I could show you to convince you anyways.

Peyton Manning is a great quarterback??!  Oh yeah!?  Prove it!??

Yeah.  You can't prove something like that to someone who would ask such a question at this stage in Peyton's career.  If someone has watched Peyton's career and still demands proof that Peyton is a good quarterback, you're never going to convince them that Peyton is a good quarterback.  The same applies to Trump.  If you pay attention to the news and you're not aware of Trump's nature by now, you never will be.


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boards of FL wrote:  .....


I have no quotes from Trump explicitly saying "I support white supremacy".



Well okay then!

So you got nothing but some thinly supported innuendo, so far as I can tell.


(I'm not a Trump supporter myself, btw ... anyway, he's already starting to flame out & will be a non-contender before the Iowa caucuses even)

boards of FL

boards of FL

EmeraldGhost wrote:
boards of FL wrote:  .....


I have no quotes from Trump explicitly saying "I support white supremacy".



Well okay then!

So you got nothing but some thinly supported innuendo, so far as I can tell.


(I'm not a Trump supporter myself, btw ...  anyway, he's already starting to flame out & will be a non-contender before the Iowa caucuses even)



I just gave you three examples where Trump is openly saying things that are racist.  He fabricated black crimes stats from an organization that doesn't exist, he broadly referred to all Mexican immigrants as rapists and drug dealers, and he made his condescending impression of Asian negotiators.  I just gave you three racial derogatory statements made by Trump himself as a way of showing that Trump has made comments that indirectly support white supremacy.   And your response is to say that I got nothing?

This is precisely why I gave you the Peyton Manning analogy.  If someone asks for proof that Manning is a good quarterback at this stage in his career, there really isn't anything that you can show them to convince them.  If they've seen all the records, all the wins, all the TD passes, all the yards, and still aren't convinced, well, there is no convincing them.

Likewise, if you watch the news, if you have read through this thread, if you read the examples that I just gave you clearly supporting the idea that Trump is racist, and if your response is "I see nothing racist here", well, then there really isn't anything that I can show you that would convince you that Trump is racist.

Rational arguments have no influence on irrational people.  Comparing Sanders endorsement from the Nation of Islam to Trumps endorsement from a host of white supremacy organizations is irrational, because Sanders hasn't said anything, directly or indirectly, that would indicate he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam - which is what you questioned.  Trump, on the other hand, has made several comments/tweets that do in fact suggest he subscribes the the ideology of white supremacy.


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Trump is a fascist. He is a racist, xenophobic monster. Anybody trying to defend his fascism has made their choice. It is a moral choice. The Republican Party has clearly identified with fascism. There is no ambiguity.

EmeraldGhost

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Trump's neither racist nor fascist ... he's just not as politically correct as you panty-waists think a politician (or anbyody for that matter) ought to be.   He thumbs his nose at your political-correctness and you can't stand it, can you?

He's unlikely to get the nomination anyway ... and if he did he wouldn't get elected.   So what are you so all hopped up about?  Trump derangement syndrome?   Take a chill pill ... or a few tokes, maybe. You'll feel better.

And if he did somehow manage to get elected, he'd be a pretty ineffective President if you ask me.   He's probably end up being more moderate than you or I would ever guess once confronted with the actual demands & weight of the office.

He's not really even a Republican anyways ... he just plays one on TV!  Laughing

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2seaoat wrote:Trump is a fascist.  He is a racist, xenophobic monster.   Anybody trying to defend his fascism has made their choice.   It is a moral choice.  The Republican Party has clearly identified with fascism.  There is no ambiguity.

Malarkey. But then, this is the hero of our far left Progressive friends.

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Markle

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boards of FL wrote:
EmeraldGhost wrote:Well, let's put things a little bit more in perspective, shall we?

I hear Nation of Islam recently endorsed Bernie Sanders.

Does that mean Bernie subscribes to their ideology?



Since its founding in 1930, the Nation of Islam (NOI) has grown into one of the wealthiest and best-known organizations in black America, offering numerous programs and events designed to uplift African Americans. Nonetheless, its bizarre theology of innate black superiority over whites — a belief system vehemently and consistently rejected by mainstream Muslims — and the deeply racist, anti-Semitic and anti-gay rhetoric of its leaders, including top minister Louis Farrakhan, have earned the NOI a prominent position in the ranks of organized hate.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam  

In 2007 NOI's core membership was estimated at between 20,000 & 50,000 ... that's gotta be far more than all the KKK groups combined.


I haven't heard Sanders say that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.  I haven't heard Sanders say anything that would even indirectly suggest that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.

I can't say the same about Donald Trump and white supremacy.  Can you?

BUT, Bernie Sanders, Wordslinger and numerous other Progressives here DO share their philosophy with this man.

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Markle

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boards of FL wrote:
EmeraldGhost wrote:
boards of FL wrote:  .....


I have no quotes from Trump explicitly saying "I support white supremacy".



Well okay then!

So you got nothing but some thinly supported innuendo, so far as I can tell.


(I'm not a Trump supporter myself, btw ...  anyway, he's already starting to flame out & will be a non-contender before the Iowa caucuses even)



I just gave you three examples where Trump is openly saying things that are racist.  He fabricated black crimes stats from an organization that doesn't exist, he broadly referred to all Mexican immigrants as rapists and drug dealers, and he made his condescending impression of Asian negotiators.  I just gave you three racial derogatory statements made by Trump himself as a way of showing that Trump has made comments that indirectly support white supremacy.   And your response is to say that I got nothing?

This is precisely why I gave you the Peyton Manning analogy.  If someone asks for proof that Manning is a good quarterback at this stage in his career, there really isn't anything that you can show them to convince them.  If they've seen all the records, all the wins, all the TD passes, all the yards, and still aren't convinced, well, there is no convincing them.

Likewise, if you watch the news, if you have read through this thread, if you read the examples that I just gave you clearly supporting the idea that Trump is racist, and if your response is "I see nothing racist here", well, then there really isn't anything that I can show you that would convince you that Trump is racist.

Rational arguments have no influence on irrational people.  Comparing Sanders endorsement from the Nation of Islam to Trumps endorsement from a host of white supremacy organizations is irrational, because Sanders hasn't said anything, directly or indirectly, that would indicate he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam - which is what you questioned.  Trump, on the other hand, has made several comments/tweets that do in fact suggest he subscribes the the ideology of white supremacy.

As you know, Donald Trump foolishly re-tweeted those figures. I'm also not in favor of Donald Trump as the Republican Candidate.

Here we see who supports semi-retired President Obama.

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Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
EmeraldGhost wrote:Well, let's put things a little bit more in perspective, shall we?

I hear Nation of Islam recently endorsed Bernie Sanders.

Does that mean Bernie subscribes to their ideology?



Since its founding in 1930, the Nation of Islam (NOI) has grown into one of the wealthiest and best-known organizations in black America, offering numerous programs and events designed to uplift African Americans. Nonetheless, its bizarre theology of innate black superiority over whites — a belief system vehemently and consistently rejected by mainstream Muslims — and the deeply racist, anti-Semitic and anti-gay rhetoric of its leaders, including top minister Louis Farrakhan, have earned the NOI a prominent position in the ranks of organized hate.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam  

In 2007 NOI's core membership was estimated at between 20,000 & 50,000 ... that's gotta be far more than all the KKK groups combined.


I haven't heard Sanders say that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.  I haven't heard Sanders say anything that would even indirectly suggest that he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam.

I can't say the same about Donald Trump and white supremacy.  Can you?

BUT, Bernie Sanders, Wordslinger and numerous other Progressives here DO share their philosophy with this man.

White supremacist groups see Trump bump AdolphHitlerandSocialist_zps33c21341

Enemy of capitalist exploiters?  Bullshit.  If only Herr Hitler had followed through with his promises, instead of forming an alliance with the largest German manufacturers to control Germany and become it's raving tyrant! Thank you Krupp, thank you Siemens, thank you I. G. Farben (Bayer) Thank you Hugo Boss, Thank you Coca-cola-Fanta, Thank you, Messerschmidt, Thank you Porsche, thank you Mercedes, etc.

... Like Trump, in his alleged pro-socialist speech Hitler was mouthing whatever he felt would give him a political edge with the voting forces he was waltzing at the moment.

Like Trump, Hitler was a fabulous brand and a brilliant political strategist.  

The truth: Hitler NEVER did ANY of the things he promised in the pro-socialist speech Herr Markle alleges was his.  

Markle's cliched photo of Hitler supposedly mouthing socialist statements is, in the reality of history, but another twisted piece of political bullshit aimed, like Trump's, at folks with double digit IQ's.    

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Barbara Walters:  "Are you a bigot?"

Donald Trump:  "I'm the least racist person you've ever met"


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Sal

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EmeraldGhost wrote:

He's unlikely to get the nomination anyway ... and if he did he wouldn't get elected.   So what are you so all hopped up about?  Trump derangement syndrome?   Take a chill pill ... or a few tokes, maybe.  You'll feel better.

And if he did somehow manage to get elected, he'd be a pretty ineffective President if you ask me.   He's probably end up being more moderate than you or I would ever guess once confronted with the actual demands & weight of the office.

He's not really even a Republican anyways ... he just plays one on TV!  Laughing

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boards of FL

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EmeraldGhost wrote:Trump's neither racist nor fascist ... he's just not as politically correct as you panty-waists think a politician (or anbyody for that matter) ought to be.   He thumbs his nose at your political-correctness and you can't stand it, can you?


So I have to ask: The KKK - racist or politically incorrect?

I have to ask that because you're writing off overtly racist comments as simply being politically incorrect, so I wonder if you even believe that the concept of racism exists at all, or is everything simply "politically incorrect"?


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boards of FL wrote:
EmeraldGhost wrote:
boards of FL wrote:  .....


I have no quotes from Trump explicitly saying "I support white supremacy".



Well okay then!

So you got nothing but some thinly supported innuendo, so far as I can tell.


(I'm not a Trump supporter myself, btw ...  anyway, he's already starting to flame out & will be a non-contender before the Iowa caucuses even)



I just gave you three examples where Trump is openly saying things that are racist.  He fabricated black crimes stats from an organization that doesn't exist, he broadly referred to all Mexican immigrants as rapists and drug dealers, and he made his condescending impression of Asian negotiators.  I just gave you three racial derogatory statements made by Trump himself as a way of showing that Trump has made comments that indirectly support white supremacy.   And your response is to say that I got nothing?

This is precisely why I gave you the Peyton Manning analogy.  If someone asks for proof that Manning is a good quarterback at this stage in his career, there really isn't anything that you can show them to convince them.  If they've seen all the records, all the wins, all the TD passes, all the yards, and still aren't convinced, well, there is no convincing them.

Likewise, if you watch the news, if you have read through this thread, if you read the examples that I just gave you clearly supporting the idea that Trump is racist, and if your response is "I see nothing racist here", well, then there really isn't anything that I can show you that would convince you that Trump is racist.

Rational arguments have no influence on irrational people.  Comparing Sanders endorsement from the Nation of Islam to Trumps endorsement from a host of white supremacy organizations is irrational, because Sanders hasn't said anything, directly or indirectly, that would indicate he subscribes to the ideology of the Nation of Islam - which is what you questioned.  Trump, on the other hand, has made several comments/tweets that do in fact suggest he subscribes the the ideology of white supremacy.

Did you keep such a list for semi-retired President Obama? THE most divisive President in modern history.

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

boards of FL wrote:
EmeraldGhost wrote:Trump's neither racist nor fascist ... he's just not as politically correct as you panty-waists think a politician (or anbyody for that matter) ought to be.   He thumbs his nose at your political-correctness and you can't stand it, can you?


So I have to ask:  The KKK - racist or politically incorrect?

I have to ask that because you're writing off overtly racist comments as simply being politically incorrect, so I wonder if you even believe that the concept of racism exists at all, or is everything simply "politically incorrect"?

Hey, 'Boards' ... what do you know about racism?  Are you an ethnic/racial minority? Or is it all theoretical with you?  Feel free to share ... since this is your thread and all.

Me ... I'm half Native American, half Caucasian (aka: white).  And I did grow up on a "Rez."   But I don't usually wear it on my sleeve & blame it for whatever problems/obstacles I may have encountered in my life.  It's part of what made me who I am .. for the better & the worse.  Good for me Mom & Dad pulled me out of the gubbmint"Indian"  (Federal Plantation) school & put me in public school (60/40 white/black) before I got to the middle grades.   Can I tell ya some stories?  Yeah.  Hell, everybody can tell ya a sad story.  Do I whine about it?  H*ll, no.   Life is tough in different ways for lots of folks ... of whatever race/ethnicity they may be.   Always has been.  Some people get a raw deal 'cause they're fat.  Some people get a raw deal because they're devout ... or not religious at all.  Some people have a big nose or thick glasses ... or they're Jewish in a non-Jewish community.  Some people get discriminated against simply for being from "The South," and having a Southern accent  ... it's assumed they must be stupid, inbred, uneducated, and racist simply because of their regional accent.   Racism isn't the only "unfairness" people encounter in life.    Ya get over it if and overcome if you're a mature self-actualized person.

I think there's a whole bunch of f'd up politically correct people in this country who do not truly understand MLK's admonistion to judge a person by the content of their character (or lack thereof) rather than the color of their skin.  

I'm not voting for Trump, because I don't think he'd make an effective President ... but you show me where Donald Trump has actually in real life treated a person unfairly due to their race/ethnicity, or advocated others do .. .then we'll talk.  Till then ....



Okay ... rant over.   This kinda crap just really sets me off on occasion.  Fortunately it's just once in a blue moon and I don't lose any sleep over it.

2seaoat



So....to understand racism and the systematic exclusion of people based on bias, fear and prejudice.....it is not an objective status, but entirely subjective with only those persons who have experienced racism able to understand the same.......not.

EmeraldGhost

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2seaoat wrote:So....to understand racism and the systematic exclusion of people based on bias, fear and prejudice.....it is not an objective status, but entirely subjective with only those persons who have experienced racism able to understand the same.......not.

I'm starting to think you just really don't know a damn thing about anything in the real world 'SeaOat' .... I hope I'm wrong about that.

2seaoat



I'm starting to think you just really don't know a damn thing about anything in the real world 'SeaOat' .... I hope I'm wrong about that.


I know racism. I grew up with four bathrooms and two drinking fountains and as a child..........seeing people exit a swimming pool......all because the color of the skin........and the worse part.......not much has changed in so many ways. It is still a systematic regional issue where politics has become more sophisticated with the use of dog whistles, but the reality is still as stark as when I was a child.

EmeraldGhost

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2seaoat wrote:I'm starting to think you just really don't know a damn thing about anything in the real world 'SeaOat' .... I hope I'm wrong about that.


I know racism.  I grew up with four bathrooms and two drinking fountains and as a child..........seeing people exit a swimming pool......all because the color of the skin........and the worse part.......not much has changed in so many ways.  It is still a systematic regional issue where politics has become more sophisticated with the use of dog whistles, but the reality is still as stark as when I was a child.

Here 'seaoat' ... maybe this'll help you.  (If not, then I don't know what)

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2seaoat



It might help my bowels, but it will not help the bowels of the Republican Party which keep spouting racist, prejudicial, and fearful messages to appeal to an entire region of this nation. Sorry, my bowels are not the problem, and candidates who deny people equal protection of the law, have no business running for office.......stop all Syrian refugees....well except for Christians......stop all Mexican immigration without documentation, but allow 20 million to overstay visas and abuse the system.......why.....mostly coming from Europe.....and now that some brown people or Muslims may be coming....now they are going to look at the Visas.....crap everywhere........

EmeraldGhost

EmeraldGhost

2seaoat wrote:It might help my bowels, but it will not help the bowels of the Republican Party which keep spouting racist, prejudicial, and fearful messages to appeal to an entire region of this nation.   ....  

As though the Dem party doesn't spout enough dog-whistle BS of it's own.

Really now 'seaoat' .. from what I know of you from your posts on here, I'd think you'd be old enough & seen enough of the world not to be such a partisan hack?

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