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Another First. As far as I know, no presidential candidate has ever purposely and intentionally used the word "shit" in a speech until now.

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Now I know I'm gonna vote for him.  lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I just wish it hadn't been in the context of "I'm gonna bomb the shit"
cause I'll have to admit,  that is a little scary.

I woulda preferred "I don't give a shit",  or even "I've gotta take a shit" over "I'm gonna bomb the shit".  lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

And what about that shakesperean play (I understand it was as long as a play too)  where he re-enacted Carson stabbing people.

I told you to abandon that stupid saying "now I've seen everything".
Because now,  every day we wake up we're seeing stuff we aint seen before.  lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

How bout this for speculation.  Trump is taunting Carson to get a response.
What Trump hopes will result,  is Carson will go "pathological" again and this time will attack Trump and pull a knife on him at the next debate.  And then Trump will show us that a knife will deflect off his belt and sink on into him.
BUT,  Trump will be wearing a Kevlar vest for protection.  And then they'll arrest Carson for attempted murder and Trump is then rid of him. 

I'm telling you if Trump is smart enough to pull this off,  it will make the real wrastlin look like amateur hour.

Sal

Sal

A buffoonish vulgarian behaving like a buffoonish vulgarian.

And, Bob is most amused.

Rolling Eyes

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Salinsky wrote:A buffoonish vulgarian behaving like a buffoonish vulgarian.

And, Bob is most amused.

Rolling Eyes

Sal,  why are you and markle always so much alike when it comes to this.
It's the same with both of you.  You both always see one side as totally evil and the other side as totally virtuous.

Trump is not just a "bufoonish vulgarian".  He's a lot more than just that.
On the plus side,  he alone is revealing to us that our political dialogue has been so stupid and so limiting. 
That it's so fake and manufactured and calculated.  ALL the other usual suspects are reading from fucking scripts prepared by polls and strategists and money donors and all that horseshit which is all we ever see.
Trump is showing us for the very first time that our political dialogue doesn't have to always be that.   That a candidate can talk like normal human beings talk,  and not like actors reading scripts talk.

You and merkel need to both open your eyes.  It's not a simple matter of which is the antichrist,  obama or trump.  Neither is an antichrist.  They're just mortal humans.

Sal

Sal

Bob wrote:
Trump is not just a "bufoonish vulgarian".  He's a lot more than just that.


No ...



... he's not.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Merkel wrote:
Bob wrote:
Obama is not just a "bufoonish vulgarian".  He's a lot more than just that.


No ...



... he's not.

Sal

Sal

The fact that you actually believe he is improving our political discourse is ridiculous to the extreme.

I truly believe that Trump never intended to be a serious candidate.  He got into the race because he's a grifter, and he needed to improve his brand.  Now, that there's an actual race, he's coming apart, in part because he doesn't even want to be President.

The funny thing is, his main rival is also a grifter who never intended to be a serious candidate.  He got into it to sell books.  But, he may actually have enough of a messianic complex that he's deluded himself into thinking he could actually do the job.

This is what the GOP has become.

A party of grifters feeding off the ignorance and intolerance of their mouth-breathing base.

This is a party that has lost all interest in policy and good governance and is running solely on grievance.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


So, Bob, that's your criterion for voting for Trump...he used the word "shit" in a speech? Sal is right...Trump is a buffoon. He's catering to ignorance, because only ignorance could elect a candidate from the GOP.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Floridatexan wrote:
So, Bob, that's your criterion for voting for Trump...he used the word "shit" in a speech?

You aint shittin it is.  And if he says the 7 words you can't say on television,  I'll vote for him to be God.  And so would George Carlin. lol

When it comes to this,  you and Sal and markle and pacedog all have you know what's stuck up your you know what's. 
Stop babbling about that "good government" and "good policy" horseshit,  Sal,  it's all in your imagination because there is no such thing.
Sit back,  relax and enjoy the show.   It's a humdinger as grandpappy would say.  And The Greatest Show On Earth as old Phineas T. would say.   lol
But of course Vince McMahon gave it the best description of all:  wrastlemania.  lol

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Bob wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
So, Bob, that's your criterion for voting for Trump...he used the word "shit" in a speech?

You aint shittin it is.  And if he says the 7 words you can't say on television,  I'll vote for him to be God.  lol

When it comes to this,  you and Sal and markle and pacedog all have you know what's stuck up your you know what's. 
Stop babbling about that "good government" and "good policy" horseshit,  Sal,  it's all in your imagination because there is no such thing.
Sit back,  relax and enjoy the show.   It's a humdinger as grandpappy would say.  And The Greatest Show On Earth as old Phineas T. would say.   lol
But of course Vince McMahon gave it the best description of all:  wrastlemania.  lol

Enjoy the show, my ass. Like we did in 2000? How'd that work out? Dumbass.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Actually George Orwell called it too.  But the future turned out to be a little different from his "1984" world.  Even goofier. 
It turned out to be more like Mike Judge predicted in "Idiocracy".  In Judge's future,  an actual professional wrastler was the President.  lol

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/idiocracy/quotes/

Narrator: As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.
‐ Submitted by Brianna E (3 years ago)
Narrator: The years passed, mankind became stupider at a frightening rate. Some had high hopes the genetic engineering would correct this trend in evolution, but sadly the greatest minds and resources where focused on conquering hair loss and prolonging erections.
‐ Submitted by Brianna E (3 years ago)
President Camacho: Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
Congressman #1: That's what you said last time, dipshit!
Congressman #2: Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick! South Carolina, what's up!

[...]

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Floridatexan wrote:
Enjoy the show, my ass.  Like we did in 2000?  How'd that work out?  Dumbass.

Well in 2000,  we had two dumbasses running.  So all I could do was vote for what I thought was the lesser of dumbasses which I did.
But that was only because I didn't really know at the time how much of a dumbass Bush was.  I bought into that madison avenue "compassionate conservative" bullshit.  I didn't know who the puppetmaster was going to be who pulled the strings of the "compassionate conservative" puppet.  His daddy didn't come along to tell me that until this week.  lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/idiocracy/quotes/

Narrator: As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.
‐ Submitted by Brianna E (3 years ago)
Narrator: The years passed, mankind became stupider at a frightening rate. Some had high hopes the genetic engineering would correct this trend in evolution, but sadly the greatest minds and resources where focused on conquering hair loss and prolonging erections.
‐ Submitted by Brianna E (3 years ago)
President Camacho: Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
Congressman #1: That's what you said last time, dipshit!
Congressman #2: Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick! South Carolina, what's up!

[...]

That movie should be required viewing in every high school civics class.  lol

Sal

Sal

Bob wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/idiocracy/quotes/

Narrator: As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.
‐ Submitted by Brianna E (3 years ago)
Narrator: The years passed, mankind became stupider at a frightening rate. Some had high hopes the genetic engineering would correct this trend in evolution, but sadly the greatest minds and resources where focused on conquering hair loss and prolonging erections.
‐ Submitted by Brianna E (3 years ago)
President Camacho: Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
Congressman #1: That's what you said last time, dipshit!
Congressman #2: Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick! South Carolina, what's up!

[...]

That movie should be required viewing in every high school civics class.  lol

Yeah, but it's really not supposed to be something to aspire to, Bob.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

It is what it is,  Sal.  And neither you nor me nor any of the rest of us running our mouths here are going to change it.  And neither is the republican party nor the democrat party nor any of their "candidates".
With the one possible exception being Trump.  He's the only one who has the potential to throw a bomb into and blow it up.  And at this point,  I think that's the only solution.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Maybe it will play out like the climax to Judge's "Idiocracy". 
In that, the country had been trying to grow crops with gatorade because the company that makes gatorade had convinced them (with Bill O'Reilly's help), that plain water was toxic to the crops. 
And so of course all the crops dried up.

And then the smartest person in the world (who at one time had been the dumbest person in the world),  tried pouring water on the crops to see what would happen.  And all was saved.
Maybe Trump will go from being dumbass to genius like the dude in the movie.  And will "make america great again".

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Bob wrote:I didn't know who the puppetmaster was going to be who pulled the strings of the "compassionate conservative" puppet.  His daddy didn't come along to tell me that until this week.  lol

Back in 2000, the puppetmaster was appointed to pick Dumbya's running mate, and he must have had a revelation of the possibilities, because he picked himself.

Imagine, getting to rule the country as this nation's most powerful VP in history for 8 years. It must have wore his heart plumb out, because he required a transplant within a couple of years after leaving office.

http://www.best-electric-barbecue-grills.com

Sal

Sal

Bob wrote:It is what it is,  Sal.  And neither you nor me nor any of the rest of us running our mouths here are going to change it.  And neither is the republican party nor the democrat party nor any of their "candidates".
With the one possible exception being Trump.  He's the only one who has the potential to throw a bomb into and blow it up.  And at this point,  I think that's the only solution.

You have got to be kidding me.

Trump and his minions are the Idiocracy come to life, and you think he is the solution.

Here's the solution ...

Every American of voting age should be compelled to watch this clip ...



Anyone who watches that clip and can still consider voting for him should be immediately disqualified from voting ever again.

There's your solution.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Maybe I wasn't clear,  Sal,  so let me correct that.

You keep talking about fucking policies like any of this political rhetoric from anybody even resembles policy.  What is being passed off as "policy"  is campaign crap.  Strings of words designed to win over voters.  Shit they couldn't care less about once they get into office.  And it applies to ALL of them.  I used to think Sanders was the exception,  but he revealed his true self by first being a kindly old man defending Hillary,  to doing a jekyll and hyde over night and now throwing dirt on her.   So it applies to ALL of them.
And of course that includes Trump.  All that immigration nonsense is no different from him all of a sudden wanting to fight the "war on christmas".  It's unlikely he gave a second thought to either immigration or christmas until he saw he could use both to get a campaign going.
The only difference between Trump and the rest is he throws all that bullshit off the top of his head.  He doesn't have a staff of strategists and writers to do it for him.  And yes I do like that.  Because hopefully,  that's gonna motivate a lot of future candidates to talk off the top of their head.
Hell,  that's how we judge people who aint just images on a tv screen.  You know,  the actual flesh and blood people we come in actual contact with.
When we converse with them,  they don't have paid strategists and writers preparing their responses. 

That's not what I was talking about when I said Trump was the only one who could throw a bomb into the thing and blow it up.
I want it all blown up and Trump to go with it.  That way maybe from the ashes we can come up with something better than what we have now.
What I don't want is more of the same in perpetuity.  Because the country won't survive that for very much longer.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I can tell you one thing.  When Trump and his people heard about the insanity going on in Paris they started cheering.
Why?

Because before this happened,  Trump's crazy performance in Iowa would have been the feature on all the cable tv news tonight.  And from the comments I've heard on talk radio today,  it was not gonna be something that Trump wants on the tube.
But now he doesn't have to worry about that,  because something bigger than even him has taken over the cable news tube for tonight.

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