The Mother Jones Secret Romney Video thread

Floridatexan wrote:

knothead wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Neko is correct. All Americans should file a tax return, however, there is no penalty where no taxes are owed, and it is common practice for senior citizens to not file. If an elderly person goes to a reputable cpa and he asks a few questions......he will tell that person they do not have to file, and the government will not sanction them.

I knew a person who ran for the Libertarian governor twenty years ago who always filed a tax return, but refused to pay taxes. He owned nothing in his name, and the IRS was constantly searching for assets to attach and pay what he owed. The key is that there is no criminal sanction if you simply file your taxes accurately. You do not get charged criminally unless you falsify the return, or do not file when taxes are in fact owed. This same person would regularly drive to Canada.....hop on a plane to Cuba....get the best Cuban Cigars.....bring them back to Canada......tell the border guards that he bought nothing in Canada.....and drive into the country with Cuban Cigars. Not paying taxes was totally legal, but the cigars.....he should have gone to jail.

Sounds like I'm being argumentative but no Neko is not correct. Your own explanation was a good one. Uncle Sam may look the other way but technically, her Mom should have been filing a return. Finally, that 47% Mr. Romney used does include Neko's mother and it may be a routine practice. Just sayin' . . . .

If your income is below a certain level, and you have no other source of income, you are not required to file a tax return. All that would do is clog up an already overburdened system. If you've filed regularly for years and are a SS recipient, the government already knows what you earn. I don't know the threshhold, but there is no violation of the law below a certain income level.

2seaoat wrote:Every American should file a tax return. However, they is no penalty for not filing when there is no tax due. It is common for Seniors to simply stop filing because they owe no taxes. The reason they are not paying any taxes is not the threshold question......well......because Romney pays no taxes and cheats with a 100 million in his qualified plan.....so this discussion is a distinction without a difference. The truth is simple. Romney looks down on the average American and has nothing in common with the same. He has no concern about the median income of this nation, rather how much he can cheat, and transfer to his overseas accounts. Anybody who listened to this tape and is still going to vote for Romney is either fooling themselves or has a Swiss Bank account.

salinsky wrote:

Bob wrote:Obama's remarks in 08 include me because I have a gun. But the reason I have a gun is because there are scumbags out there who will kill me for five dollars and I don't have bodyguards like Obama does to protect me. Not because of Obama's bullshit in those remarks.

Romney's remarks in 2012 include nekochan's mother. But nekochan's mother is/was not a lazy welfare bum sucking off the government teat like Romney's remarks imply.

I repeat. Both are what happens when politicians (and their mouthpieces in the media) rely on stereotypes to push their propaganda and brainwash their voting base.

Obama was saying that even groups who are hostile to him share the same interests if you dig beneath the sociological differences.

Romney is saying that half the population of the United States is irredeemable parasites.

Big difference.