The ugly bitch who gave birth to the cowardly little monsters SPEAKS

Secondly, this is the first time I've ever heard of the Blood gang being "Baptists"

Thank you for making my point. Religion and ethnicity is a secondary consideration in the criminal enterprise. Radical Islam and criminal actions is but a very very small part of the those who are Muslims. Being a Blood is but a very very small part of those who are Baptist.

14 thousand murders and not once have I seen you start a thread commenting about a white murderers mother being "ugly" because the fact that a criminal is white has no correlation in your mind to crime, yet a Muslim who writes on a boat contrary to your attempts to say your thread has not been about Muslims that his criminal acts is to avenge other Muslims being killed by America. The bloods kill the Crips in retaliation for losing one of their own and it is considered a common crime.

And that's what really pisses me off. Because if these monsters were from Iran or Iraq then she might have a point about "U.S. terrorism. But after a little googling, I learned that the United States has never had any beef with Kyrgyzstan nor has Kyrgyzstan had any beef with us.

You think this is about Krysyzstan and do your dog whistle routine on Muslims when we both know your prejudice, which below makes it clear, but how many entire families do you want tortured in Watts because a child has murdered a Crip or a blood.......I call BS

In my book, there is no amount of torture that is too much torture when it comes to the whole family of these maggots.

I just ordered my whataburger and it's too hard to type reply on this little kyboard. My fingers are too fat
Will reply when I get back home.

I am cutting down a maple tree with the help of two healthy friends. I am operating the all terrain Lull forklift with a basket while they cut the top of the Maple which is over 70 years old and almost 70 feet high, and then I will wait for delivery of the Bobcat track which I need to install with the Lull.....I too will be gone, and probably sleeping the rest of the afternoon, but that whataburger is more dangerous to you than any terrorist.

2seaoat wrote:

14 thousand murders and not once have I seen you start a thread commenting about a white murderers mother being "ugly" because the fact that a criminal is white has no correlation in your mind to crime, yet a Muslim who writes on a boat contrary to your attempts to say your thread has not been about Muslims that his criminal acts is to avenge other Muslims being killed by America.   The bloods kill the Crips in retaliation for losing one of their own and it is considered a common crime.

And that's what really pisses me off. Because if these monsters were from Iran or Iraq then she might have a point about "U.S. terrorism. But after a little googling, I learned that the United States has never had any beef with Kyrgyzstan nor has Kyrgyzstan had any beef with us.

You think this is about Krysyzstan and do your dog whistle routine on Muslims when we both know your prejudice, which below makes it clear, but how many entire families do you want tortured in Watts because a child has murdered a Crip or a blood.......I call BS

In my book, there is no amount of torture that is too much torture when it comes to the whole family of these maggots.

There's so much in this post that needs to be addressed.  So we'll take it point by point.

Firstly,  if you can cite me any other example of any other mother (or father for that matter),  be they white,  black,  brown,  yellow,  christian,  muslim, atheist, hindu,  short, tall,  fat skinny or with any other characteristic whatsoever,  who,  after his or her child has murdered, dismembered and injured 267 innocent people,  and the person then starts shouting his or her ugliness to the world that the bomber is innocent and the country is guilty,  then I will start ten threads to express how ugly that person is.

Right now the only other example I can think of is that other ugly bitch,  the mother of that moronic cracker George Bush who,  after he'd injured and killed so many people,  had the balls to tell us this...

"why should we hear about body bags and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or that or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that"

But of course she IS white.  And of course I wrote a dozen posts at the time making it very clear how ugly she was.

I'll address the other points as I have time.  I'm doing this and at the same tim trying to fix the kitchen plumbing so I can turn the water back on and stop having to go to whataburger to take a crap.

Second point.  In that same post you quoted me...

And that's what really pisses me off. Because if these monsters were from Iran or Iraq then she might have a point about "U.S. terrorism". But after a little googling, I learned that the United States has never had any beef with Kyrgyzstan nor has Kyrgyzstan had any beef with us.


Firstly,  apparently you do not understand why I made mention of "U.S. terrorism" and why I said Iranians and Iraqis have a right to view our government as "terrorists"?
If you don't understand that then it's because our government was the "terrorist" in Iran.  Learn the history of Iran between the time our government executed a coup to install a U.S. puppet dictator in the country and the 1979 revolution which deposed him.  Then maybe you will understand.

As to the second sentence in that quote,  it was said simply because it's true.  Our government has not had conflict with the country the Tsarnzevs escaped from.  
We've already gone over this ground,  but when you first read that and then told me Tsarnaev blew the arms and legs off people in Boston because he was defending muslims elsewhere, my reaction then was to point out to you that since I'm an atheist,  if I go by that reasoning then I would be expected to defend other atheists in the world by blowing the arms and legs off people where I live just as he did where he lives.
But of course you never responded to that.

2seaoat wrote:  The bloods kill the Crips in retaliation for losing one of their own and it is considered a common crime.

When the bloods or the crips or the boy scouts or whoever blow up 267 people at a public gathering, I assure you it won't be called a "common" crime by anyone.
Well maybe except for you. You've already told us killing and injuring and dismembering 267 people with bombs is a "typical common crime" in your book.

2seaoat wrote:I too will be gone, and probably sleeping the rest of the afternoon

I didn't say I was walking away from this discussion.  I said I'm going to keep participating in this discussion at the same time I'm fucking with the kitchen plumbing.

But if you've now run away from the discussion I understand.  I can't say I blame you for that.

But if you've now run away from the discussion I understand.

Nope



Be back for spurts but need to finish the tree, get the bobcat rubber track delivered and installed, and then I can have you sit down on the couch and discuss why you fear Muslims, Mexicans, and anybody who does not look like Mayberry.

Well if this is gonna be a show and tell thread, here's a photo of the ancient plumbing in my 60 year old house.



I replaced the kitchen sink faucet yesterday. After I got it all installed I discovered the old galvanized supply pipes have obsolete flange fittings screwed onto them. And then today learned there is no adapter available in town to convert those flange fittings to connect up to the modern flexible hoses I installed. I finally gave up trying to remove those old fittings and called a plumber who won't be here until tomorrow at 8AM.
Since there is no shut off valve on the cold water side, I have to keep the water turned off at the street.
Right now there is a "little brown bag of garbage" of sorts in the bathroom. Except it's a black (not brown) trash bag draped over the toilet bowl and what it's filled with is not exactly "garbage".

But now to Mayberry. Being as all my kinfolk (on my Dad's side) are in Lincoln County which is about 50 miles from "Mayberry" (Mt. Airy), maybe I can provide some perspective on that part of the country you may not be aware of.

There was a character on The Andy Griffith Show named Ernest T. Bass and a whole family of supporting characters called the Darling family.
These folk would sometimes come down to "Mayberry" from the surrounding mountains.
These fictional characters mirror the real-life Pikes and Wagners.
The Pikes and Wagners live up in the hills of the Blue Ridge Mountains up above Mayberry.
This is between Mayberry where one side of my family comes from and the far East Tennessee mountains where my mother's family hails from. So I'm one-half Mayberry tarheel and one-half Beverly Hillbilly. Except nobody in my family ever got rich by shooting a rifle into the ground to discover oil. And none of them ever moved to Beverly Hills. They're pretty much all still there.

Anyway about the Pikes and Wagners (who my first cousin refers to as the Pagners).
I'll make this brief because I'm feeling like I'll have to go to the Circle K shortly (I truly am starting to hate that "little brown bag of garbage" in the bathroom).

When you leave Mt. Airy and travel up the mountain to the Pagners' neck of the woods, you will see the countryside begin to look like something out of The Grapes of Wrath. The trash and litter gets thicker and thicker with the rise in elevation.
But it's what you will see when you finally arrive that is more like a scene out of Deliverance.
Remember the banjo player in Deliverance? That weird looking little dude?
Well that's what most of the Pagners look like. The Pikes and Wagners had no prohibition on incest and it is clearly evident in their physical features.

So the next time you watch a rerun of the Andy Griffith Show, now you will know who the real Ernest T. Bass and the real Darling family are.

Bob,
Put a hold on the plumber. You have a T connection from the old galvanized connection which is plugged. You need to get a new 3" galvanized pipe which matches your diameter of the T. You need to put a shut off valve at the end of the 3 extension, and put this where the plug was. After that you can T or go directly to a threaded connection with your flexible. 15 minute job assuming you can shut the water off behind your current valve, and it is not necessary to solder.

Then maybe you will understand.


In 1974 I was defending my thesis and assisting my lead Professor on a presentation in Canada for a consortium dealing with Iraq, Iran, and deployment of American naval assets at the straights of Hormuz. I am glad you paid attention when Requiem and I had intelligent dialogue on Iranian history, the middle east, and American culpability................. and now can help me a little bit.

Do you think you help this sick old man get the 225 lb rubber track on the Bobcat.......and then we will continue the discussion.....I mean your teaching me about international relations.

I'm a sick old man too (Lymphoma and Melanoma) so not up to helping put a track on a Bobcat. But I admire you for it if you can do it.

Unfortunately I didn't catch the thread you speak of. I learned about Iran inadvertently on my first visit to Chicago in 1976. I've related this in posts before but here it is again.
I was walking down Michigan Ave and came up on a street protest. About a dozen people. I got out my camera to take a picture of it and one of them immediately comes over to me and politely asks that I not take their picture.
He then explained why. He told me if that photo somehow got into the hands of the Shah's secret police, they would be able to identify the protestors and would jail them when they returned to Iran.
And then he explained how our government was helping to keep the Iranian people in bondage and that's why they were here protesting.
Never have forgotten that.

Bob,
Please look at the end of page 4 for a solution of the plumbing issue. When I posted the Bobcat photo it started page 5 and I do not want you paying a plumber when I can see you have all the necessary tools to fix this yourself .

1. Go to the outside city water shut off.....shut the water off.

2. remove the galvanized plug and replace it with a 3" extension which is galvanized. Go to the Hardware store and get a properly threaded shut off valve for your new 3" and make sure they fit in the store. Next put another 3 inch galvanized after the valve. Put a T fitting on the end of that. Plug one side. Finish your project on the other side.

I appreciate the advice, seaoat,  but the water has been shut off at the street since yesterday morning.  If the water was flowing,  it would be gushing out of the ends of those two pipes you see in the photo. That valve on the left pipe you see just cuts off hot water to the dishwasher. Neither the cold nor the hot water supply pipes under the sink have cutoff valves on them.

My problem is the obsolete couplings on the ends of those pipes have to be removed so that modern couplings can be installed to be able to connect the flexible lines leading to the faucet.  I struggled with trying to remove those couplings all morning.  Used a penetrate and heat both and they won't budge.  Time to let a pro take over.

Bob,

That T looks good. So I can better understand, are you saying you cannot remove that valve above the T? If you are because it will not budge, you need to leverage your pipe wrench with four feet of heavy duty 2" Electric Conduit normally used on bring a supply to the meter. Lowes has them and will cut to the size you need in the space you are working. You should easily be able to break the grip of the threads and remove the threaded flange. At that point it is simply following the extensions I posted with new galvanized and threads which match your flexible going to the water heater. Help me understand.

Bob,

I see the pipe coming up from the floor with your ground. I see the pipe with the T. Which one of those pipes are coming from the City supply? Are you telling me that the hot water which leaves your hot water heater goes back down under the concrete?

A hot water heater has one supply from your main line, and has on output flow. I do not understand two supplies, or the hot water being diverted back under the concrete. You can tell me to F off at any time, but this just looks completely doable if you have leverage.

The two (hot and cold) galvanized supply pipes you see coming out of the floor of the cabinet have couplings screwed onto the ends of them.  Those couplings have male flange connectors on the ends of them.  And the original copper tubes going to the faucet had female flange connectors to mate with them.
The hot water one you see on the left has the T coupling on it only to supply hot water to the dishwasher.  And that cut off valve you see only shuts off water to the dishwasher,  not to the faucet.

I went to three different sources attempting to get adapters so I could avoid having to remove the couplings.  No adapters can be had.  One counter guy laughed and said "they haven't used those parts for 30 years".

So the couplings have to be removed and then replaced with modern couplings which will accept the flexible hoses.  

I used penetrating oil,  heat from a torch,  and all the leverage I could get attempting to remove the couplers from the ends of the pipes.  Struggled with it all morning to no avail.  Finally gave up.  But not until hours after the struggle began.

Won't be around for awhile.  I'm headed to Planet Fitness to take a shower (and use the toilet).  lol

Bob,
As the cancer has weakened me, I could no longer use brute strength. I have been using leverage with extenders on my tools for two years. I have triple the strength of when I was young and strong by using my head with leverage. I guarantee you that you can easily remove those couplings with proper extensions on your pipe wrench because those galvanized pipes are well supported in the concrete, and then it is a simple matter of putting a new coupling and extensions which match up with your water heater.....but I understand you are tired and just want to let somebody else deal with this, so I will send you some photos of me completing the Bobcat tracks, where I have no options.......it needs to get done today.

Long day.......got the track on.....too old and weak to do this, and peg leg did her best, but dead man walking and peg leg got her done. Where the rags are sticking out of the side of the lower carriage unit and where we insert a grease zert and start pumping grease which tightens the front idler which allows the bearings and drive to move the tracks and the bobcat......I will NEVER do this again in what is left of my life.....never.

I have to get my 39th monthly shots at Northwestern Friday morning. I will stop at work afterwards and spend a couple hours catching up from being out of the office, and then I will finish my causeway dirt work and will post the fixed Bobcat working the dirt. During this entire time, I did not lose a moment today worrying about terrorists or that our folks will prosecute the bastards when they do their criminal acts......I am not worried about going to Chicago and being attacked by criminals.....it is the most beautiful city in America, and I am not going to curl up in a fetal ball and worry about what I cannot control.....I am going to fight for every moment of life and accept the cards as they are dealt. A mother lost her son, and may lose both of them....her views are wrong, and her sons were wrong, but Bob your judgment is skewed by prejudice and fear, and is very hateful.....but good luck Friday morning getting your water back.

Just to get the secondary stuff out of the way, seaoat, about this...

"those galvanized pipes are well supported in the concrete"

It's an off-grade house, no slab. It was built in 1954. It's in North Lakeview which borders on East Hill which you may have heard of.
My house represents a transition in local residential architecure. It's brick veneer which crosses the later period, but off-grade which is the earlier period.

The supply pipes coming through the floor are not supported at all. They're each coming through large holes in the cabinet bottom and it appears the only support is the pipe they're connected to below. In other words they flop around like a limp dick.

I now want to reflect on the other things you wrote.

I am talking about where the galvanized pipe comes out of the concrete. With a pipe extender you can put sufficient pressure on that coupler to remove it. I know you could do it with that two inch four foot electrical supply on the end of the pipe wrench. In regard to any flopping around where the pipes come through your floor, simple cut a treated 2 x 4 between your floor supports and screw them into the supports. Stop at Lowes and get steel strapping, and strap the galvanized to the 2 x4s and tighten it with a simple portable battery drill with screw bit. Double up your supports on both holes coming through the floor. Use the stiffer galvanized all the way up which will not flop once strapped and put your conversions at the end. You will get deflection with flexible pipe to the water heater, so if you know how to solder, bring copper up through the floor, and put a support from the wall using a base plate where you screw into a wall two by four and cut a piece of copper after soldering threads which fit in the base plate and catch both pipe and solder them to the support. Your flexible pipe make it easy to change out the water heater and you get rigidity in your plumbing support.

2seaoat wrote:I am talking about where the galvanized pipe comes out of the concrete.  

It's an off grade foundation (wooden foundation). There is no concrete slab.

Could you show a finished photo of the job. Thanks.