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dESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL NONNEGOTIABLE

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Floridatexan
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KarlRove

KarlRove

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-militia-chief-destroying-israel-nonnegotiable/

aND THE CLOWN SHOES IN CHIEF IS GIVING THEM NUKES

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Iran is going to destroy Israel? You are a dork of the first degree. Iran has said many things, but where has the Iranian military ever acted on those words? Israel, on the other hand, has not only built itself a huge nuclear arsenal--breaking every rule in the book to get it. Israel bombs other countries and territories around it with impunity. Israel is a war-mongering aggressor compared to Iran.

You and Bibi need to change your Depends and go suck on pacifiers, while real men comprise a settlement that does not require war.

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KarlRove

KarlRove

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Iran is going to destroy Israel? You are a dork of the first degree. Iran has said many things, but where has the Iranian military ever acted on those words? Israel, on the other hand, has not only built itself a huge nuclear arsenal--breaking every rule in the book to get it. Israel bombs other countries and territories around it with impunity. Israel is a war-mongering aggressor compared to Iran.

You and Bibi need to change your Depends and go suck on pacifiers, while real men comprise a settlement that does not require war.

Thanks for making my point. Israel has NUKES and never threatens to wipe out entire cultures. On the other hand, we are negotiating NUKES with one culture that is promising to wipe out another. That's the stupidity of Obama and yourself.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

KarlRove wrote:Thanks for making my point. Israel has NUKES and never threatens to wipe out entire cultures. On the other hand, we are negotiating NUKES with one culture that is promising to wipe out another. That's the stupidity of Obama and yourself.

The stupidity of yourself includes the notion that Iran is most definitely going to attack Israel and 'wipe out' the Jewish culture. You are pulling that out of your rectum. You just want another excuse to have a war that fits into your fundamentalist end-times scheme. God does not need your help to advance the plans He has to end the world one day.

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan



KarlRove

KarlRove

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
KarlRove wrote:Thanks for making my point. Israel has NUKES and never threatens to wipe out entire cultures. On the other hand, we are negotiating NUKES with one culture that is promising to wipe out another. That's the stupidity of Obama and yourself.

The stupidity of yourself includes the notion that Iran is most definitely going to attack Israel and 'wipe out' the Jewish culture. You are pulling that out of your rectum. You just want another excuse to have a war that fits into your fundamentalist end-times scheme. God does not need your help to advance the plans He has to end the world one day.

How about his own words?


The commander of the Basij militia of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said that “erasing Israel off the map” is “nonnegotiable,” according to an Israel Radio report Tuesday.


Militia chief Mohammad Reza Naqdi also threatened Saudi Arabia, saying that the offensive it is leading in Yemen “will have a fate like the fate of Saddam Hussein.”


Read more: Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is 'nonnegotiable' | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-militia-chief-destroying-israel-nonnegotiable/#ixzz3W5EK959L
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2seaoat



What should we do If you think Israel is incapable of their own defense.....raise our foreign aid to Israel from 3 billion to 4 billion........kill 100k Iranian civilians and 6k American kids?, or try diplomacy?

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

KarlRove wrote:The stupidity of yourself includes the notion that Iran is most definitely going to attack Israel and 'wipe out' the Jewish culture. You are pulling that out of your rectum. You just want another excuse to have a war that fits into your fundamentalist end-times scheme. God does not need your help to advance the plans He has to end the world one day.[/color

How about his own words?


The commander of the Basij militia of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said that “erasing Israel off the map” is “nonnegotiable,” according to an Israel Radio report Tuesday.


Militia chief Mohammad Reza Naqdi also threatened Saudi Arabia, saying that the offensive it is leading in Yemen “will have a fate like the fate of Saddam Hussein.”


Read more: Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is 'nonnegotiable' | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-militia-chief-destroying-israel-nonnegotiable/#ixzz3W5EK959L
Follow us: @timesofisrael on Twitter | timesofisrael on Facebook

Talk is cheap. Apparently you are overly influenced by what a person says they will do. Have you not heard of the phrase: "Actions speak louder than words?" Where has Iran actually demonstrated intent to attack Israel? They do control Hezbollah, but so long as Israel keeps its nose out of Lebanon's business, Hezbollah seems quite content to leave Israel alone.

By threatening Iran, Bibi is out looking for trouble. He wants it and begs for it just to fill his lust for power. He wants to be one of the big-boys on the world stage. Except, his attack on Iran may blow-up in his face, and instead make him look like a world stooge. Obama may be trying to save this nut from himself.

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KarlRove

KarlRove

by 2seaoat Today at 3:30 pm
What should we do If you think Israel is incapable of their own defense.....raise our foreign aid to Israel from 3 billion to 4 billion........kill 100k Iranian civilians and 6k American kids?, or try diplomacy?
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Ask Iran as they are ones making threats.

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
KarlRove wrote:The stupidity of yourself includes the notion that Iran is most definitely going to attack Israel and 'wipe out' the Jewish culture. You are pulling that out of your rectum. You just want another excuse to have a war that fits into your fundamentalist end-times scheme. God does not need your help to advance the plans He has to end the world one day.[/color

How about his own words?


The commander of the Basij militia of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said that “erasing Israel off the map” is “nonnegotiable,” according to an Israel Radio report Tuesday.


Militia chief Mohammad Reza Naqdi also threatened Saudi Arabia, saying that the offensive it is leading in Yemen “will have a fate like the fate of Saddam Hussein.”


Read more: Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is 'nonnegotiable' | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-militia-chief-destroying-israel-nonnegotiable/#ixzz3W5EK959L
Follow us: @timesofisrael on Twitter | timesofisrael on Facebook

Talk is cheap. Apparently you are overly influenced by what a person says they will do. Have you not heard of the phrase: "Actions speak louder than words?" Where has Iran actually demonstrated intent to attack Israel? They do control Hezbollah, but so long as Israel keeps its nose out of Lebanon's business, Hezbollah seems quite content to leave Israel alone.

By threatening Iran, Bibi is out looking for trouble. He wants it and begs for it just to fill his lust for power. He wants to be one of the big-boys on the world stage. Except, his attack on Iran may blow-up in his face, and instead make him look like a world stooge. Obama may be trying to save this nut from himself.

Threatening Iran...you're joking are you not?

Which country has it in their constitution or governing documents that another country must be destroyed?

Why does Iran need nuclear power?

Semi-retired President Obama HAS NEVER, EVER protected anyone other than himself.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

KarlRove wrote:Ask Iran as they are ones making threats.

You are a liar! Bibi is the one trying to stir-up a war with Iran, not vice-versa. He is the one making threats. He has been threatening to attack Iran since he re-assumed his position as Israeli PM back in 2009. He won't shut the hell up about it.

Thankfully, Obama is not going to lend support to the military option, and you just need to cry yourself to sleep and be quiet. It won't happen on Obama's watch, and if Bibi tries to go it alone, his country will face serious repercussions. Both from the U.S. and from the world.

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Why does Iran need nuclear power?

I am glad you asked. This was covered at one of the energy blogs I read. One of the problems with countries that depend on the export of oil for public revenue faces is the loss of revenue from increased consumption at home. Saudi Arabia also faces the same dilemma--oil consumed by the Saudi people is oil that cannot be exported abroad for revenue.

Iran faces oil-depletion and increased consumption, and wants to develop nuclear power plants to reduce dependence on oil. This will help mitigate their consumption and depletion problems.

Of course, they may want bombs, too. When you have a neocon nutcase like Benjamin Netanyahu sitting atop his own arsenal of secret nuclear weapons, threatening to strike your country--in fact looking for a reason to do just that--you might feel the need for the ultimate weapon.

Since you belong to the bomb-first and ask questions later crowd, I don't expect my explanation to satisfy you.


http://www.cfr.org/iran/tehrans-oil-dysfunction/p12625

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Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Why does Iran need nuclear power?

I am glad you asked. This was covered at one of the energy blogs I read. One of the problems with countries that depend on the export of oil for public revenue faces is the loss of revenue from increased consumption at home. Saudi Arabia also faces the same dilemma--oil consumed by the Saudi people is oil that cannot be exported abroad for revenue.

Iran faces oil-depletion and increased consumption, and wants to develop nuclear power plants to reduce dependence on oil. This will help mitigate their consumption and depletion problems.

Of course, they may want bombs, too. When you have a neocon nutcase like Benjamin Netanyahu sitting atop his own arsenal of secret nuclear weapons, threatening to strike your country--in fact looking for a reason to do just that--you might feel the need for the ultimate weapon.

Since you belong to the bomb-first and ask questions later crowd, I don't expect my explanation to satisfy you.

http://www.cfr.org/iran/tehrans-oil-dysfunction/p12625

If no new oil was discovered, their oil supply would last for 100 years.

Were they to give up their goal of a nuclear weapon, they would be a peaceful, wealthy nation with prosperous citizens.

2seaoat



If no new oil was discovered, their oil supply would last for 100 years.

Were they to give up their goal of a nuclear weapon, they would be a peaceful, wealthy nation with prosperous citizens.



I think we all have to hope the negotiations will allow a secure Israel, and a secure Iran with growing trade relations. It start however by discontinuing our historic interference with democracy in Iran and the middle east.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:If no new oil was discovered, their oil supply would last for 100 years.

Were they to give up their goal of a nuclear weapon, they would be a peaceful, wealthy nation with prosperous citizens.

You are guessing on the 100 years. The EIA states that Iran holds 157 billion barrels of proven reserves. We all know that OPEC countries greatly embellish their stated reserves. The EIA also states that 98% of Iranian energy consumption comes from oil and gas--not much from coal or hydro-power/renewables. So, they use mostly oil and/or gas to generate most of their electricity. They want to diversify their means to generate electricity.

The problem of "giving up their goal" of having a nuclear weapon is that some folks will want to attack Iran regardless of any deal that is struck--you included. Thankfully, the President isn't listening to the pinheads whining in the background, and he is not intimidated by the loud-mouthed Israeli PM.

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KarlRove

KarlRove

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:If no new oil was discovered, their oil supply would last for 100 years.

Were they to give up their goal of a nuclear weapon, they would be a peaceful, wealthy nation with prosperous citizens.

You are guessing on the 100 years. The EIA states that Iran holds 157 billion barrels of proven reserves. We all know that OPEC countries greatly embellish their stated reserves. The EIA also states that 98% of Iranian energy consumption comes from oil and gas--not much from coal or hydro-power/renewables. So, they use mostly oil and/or gas to generate most of their electricity. They want to diversify their means to generate electricity.

The problem of "giving up their goal" of having a nuclear weapon is that some folks will want to attack Iran regardless of any deal that is struck--you included. Thankfully, the President isn't listening to the pinheads whining in the background, and he is not intimidated by the loud-mouthed Israeli PM.

Hey anti-Semite,

You do know that America would probably not had an atomic bomb if it were not for the Jews and Jews who emigrated from Europe to escape Italian and German fascism, don't you?

There's a giant chance that Germany would have had it before the US and that would have truly turned the tide in WW II for Hitler.

Enrico Fermi - Italy
Leo Szilard- Hungary
Robert Oppenheimer-American Jew
Edward Teller- Hungary
Eugene Wigner- Hungary


Here's more -
http://www.mphpa.org/classic/HICC/HICC_HF1.htm

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

KarlRove wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:If no new oil was discovered, their oil supply would last for 100 years.

Were they to give up their goal of a nuclear weapon, they would be a peaceful, wealthy nation with prosperous citizens.

You are guessing on the 100 years. The EIA states that Iran holds 157 billion barrels of proven reserves. We all know that OPEC countries greatly embellish their stated reserves. The EIA also states that 98% of Iranian energy consumption comes from oil and gas--not much from coal or hydro-power/renewables. So, they use mostly oil and/or gas to generate most of their electricity. They want to diversify their means to generate electricity.

The problem of "giving up their goal" of having a nuclear weapon is that some folks will want to attack Iran regardless of any deal that is struck--you included. Thankfully, the President isn't listening to the pinheads whining in the background, and he is not intimidated by the loud-mouthed Israeli PM.

Hey anti-Semite,

You do know that America would probably not had an atomic bomb if it were not for the Jews and Jews who emigrated from Europe to escape Italian and German fascism, don't you?

There's a giant chance that Germany would have had it before the US and that would have truly turned the tide in WW II for Hitler.

Enrico Fermi - Italy
Leo Szilard- Hungary
Robert Oppenheimer-American Jew
Edward Teller- Hungary
Eugene Wigner- Hungary


Here's more -
http://www.mphpa.org/classic/HICC/HICC_HF1.htm

And you complain about others introducing red herring arguments. DUH!

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Israel would not have nukes if they hadn't stolen them from US.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Floridatexan wrote:
Israel would not have nukes if they hadn't stolen them from US.

They did steal fissile material and krypton switches from us back in the 60s.

http://thebulletin.org/did-israel-steal-bomb-grade-uranium-united-states7056

Israel has committed enough nuclear outrages to become sanctioned into the next millennium. And they whine about Iran doing perhaps one tenth of what Israel accomplished over 40 years ago. They don't need nukes to defend themselves from their non-nuclear neighbors. They want nukes because they are power-hungry wannabes. Bibi wants to be able to swing a big-dick around when he intimidates his less powerful neighbors.

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Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:If no new oil was discovered, their oil supply would last for 100 years.

Were they to give up their goal of a nuclear weapon, they would be a peaceful, wealthy nation with prosperous citizens.

You are guessing on the 100 years. The EIA states that Iran holds 157 billion barrels of proven reserves. We all know that OPEC countries greatly embellish their stated reserves. The EIA also states that 98% of Iranian energy consumption comes from oil and gas--not much from coal or hydro-power/renewables. So, they use mostly oil and/or gas to generate most of their electricity. They want to diversify their means to generate electricity.

The problem of "giving up their goal" of having a nuclear weapon is that some folks will want to attack Iran regardless of any deal that is struck--you included. Thankfully, the President isn't listening to the pinheads whining in the background, and he is not intimidated by the loud-mouthed Israeli PM.

No guess at all. They have oil to sell and use for 100 years. Other than nuclear weapons, being built 3,000 feet underground, they have no need for thousands of centrifuges.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

On this one, Semi-sane "I KNOW NOSSING!" Markle is most likely correct.  Clearly Iran doesn't need a big nuclear development program for nuclear medicinal needs or for power production.


They are clearly concerned with Israel's ongoing aggressive program of regional dominance and land acquisition, and the fact that Israel possesses an illicit arsenal of nuclear weapons, backed up by the United States.


Who the fuck are we to say it's okay for Israel to have illegal nuclear weapons, but not Iran?  In fact, other than military might, what gives us the ethical right to declare which countries develop nuclear weapons and which ones may not?

Screw Amerika Inc.!  Corporate control of our government through campaign financing. 

VectorMan

VectorMan

The Jews are God's chosen people. Probably best not to fuck with them. Do so at your own peril Iran.

Islam and it's followers are evil and working directly for the devil himself.

We'll see what happens, but Iran is flirting with disaster.

KarlRove

KarlRove

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Israel would not have nukes if they hadn't stolen them from US.

They did steal fissile material and krypton switches from us back in the 60s.

http://thebulletin.org/did-israel-steal-bomb-grade-uranium-united-states7056

Israel has committed enough nuclear outrages to become sanctioned into the next millennium. And they whine about Iran doing perhaps one tenth of what Israel accomplished over 40 years ago. They don't need nukes to defend themselves from their non-nuclear neighbors. They want nukes because they are power-hungry wannabes. Bibi wants to be able to swing a big-dick around when he intimidates his less powerful neighbors.

Are you scared your own might be too small?

KarlRove

KarlRove

VectorMan wrote:The Jews are God's chosen people. Probably best not to fuck with them. Do so at your own peril Iran.

Islam and it's followers are evil and working directly for the devil himself.

We'll see what happens, but Iran is flirting with disaster.

I know what happens in the end. I have read the book.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:No guess at all.

Yes, based on your forum comments about energy over the past three years or so, you are demonstrably lacking in knowledge in this area. You might not think you are guessing, but you are surely just spouting another of your crappy opinions.

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