Folks murdered by police in 2014 (thus far)

Joanimaroni wrote:

nadalfan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

The thing is, the police and the people should not be in an adversarial relationship. The police are supposed to "protect and serve". I respect the very difficult job they have in determining who the "bad guys are" and protecting the rest of us from them.

The solution is not remote policing via drones but community policing where the cops know the people and vice-versa. No system or model is going to work all the time, note the chokehold death by police in NYC as an example. They were quite familiar with that man and still ended up killing him with apparent casualness and lack of concern. Again it is training and constant communication between police and the people.

Really?

He didn't seem too concerned when he charmingly waves at the camera while Eric Garner is on the ground unconscious

Really, he waved charmingly at the camera?

nadalfan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

nadalfan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

The thing is, the police and the people should not be in an adversarial relationship. The police are supposed to "protect and serve". I respect the very difficult job they have in determining who the "bad guys are" and protecting the rest of us from them.

The solution is not remote policing via drones but community policing where the cops know the people and vice-versa. No system or model is going to work all the time, note the chokehold death by police in NYC as an example. They were quite familiar with that man and still ended up killing him with apparent casualness and lack of concern. Again it is training and constant communication between police and the people.

Really?

He didn't seem too concerned when he charmingly waves at the camera while Eric Garner is on the ground unconscious

Really, he waved charmingly at the camera?

I get it, you don't get sarcasm.

Let's try this.  Like a complete jerk, devoid of any compassion, he smiles and waves at the camera while Garner is on the ground dying.  Clearer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT66U_Ftdng&feature=youtu.be&t=6m53s

Joanimaroni wrote:

nadalfan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

nadalfan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

The thing is, the police and the people should not be in an adversarial relationship. The police are supposed to "protect and serve". I respect the very difficult job they have in determining who the "bad guys are" and protecting the rest of us from them.

The solution is not remote policing via drones but community policing where the cops know the people and vice-versa. No system or model is going to work all the time, note the chokehold death by police in NYC as an example. They were quite familiar with that man and still ended up killing him with apparent casualness and lack of concern. Again it is training and constant communication between police and the people.

Really?

He didn't seem too concerned when he charmingly waves at the camera while Eric Garner is on the ground unconscious

Really, he waved charmingly at the camera?

I get it, you don't get sarcasm.

Let's try this.  Like a complete jerk, devoid of any compassion, he smiles and waves at the camera while Garner is on the ground dying.  Clearer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT66U_Ftdng&feature=youtu.be&t=6m53s

Yea, it's clear. I did not see that video of a wave.....the other video did not show anything like that. If he was waving at the camera, at the camera as you assume he was, it is completelt inappropriate.

Wordslinger wrote:
Inappropriate?!!!  The son of a bitch just murdered a man for selling loose cigarettes!  The MF should be skinned alive!

Joanimaroni wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

The thing is, the police and the people should not be in an adversarial relationship. The police are supposed to "protect and serve". I respect the very difficult job they have in determining who the "bad guys are" and protecting the rest of us from them.

The solution is not remote policing via drones but community policing where the cops know the people and vice-versa. No system or model is going to work all the time, note the chokehold death by police in NYC as an example. They were quite familiar with that man and still ended up killing him with apparent casualness and lack of concern. Again it is training and constant communication between police and the people.

Really?

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:
Inappropriate?!!!  The son of a bitch just murdered a man for selling loose cigarettes!  The MF should be skinned alive!

What about the sergeant who was on the scene and supervised each step of the take down?

What was his cause of death?

I don't understand why there wasn't an indictment either but I wasn't on the grand jury as you were.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Instead of the police going into neighborhoods personally they should use helicopter drones. That way they won't be in any immediate personal risk and can assess the situation remotely in a calm and peaceful enviornment... Of course if a firefight breaks out there will be no loss of personnel and if there happens to be civilian collateral damage it can written off as acceptable loses.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgQlQVJ-c

The thing is, the police and the people should not be in an adversarial relationship. The police are supposed to "protect and serve". I respect the very difficult job they have in determining who the "bad guys are" and protecting the rest of us from them.

The solution is not remote policing via drones but community policing where the cops know the people and vice-versa. No system or model is going to work all the time, note the chokehold death by police in NYC as an example. They were quite familiar with that man and still ended up killing him with apparent casualness and lack of concern. Again it is training and constant communication between police and the people.

Really?

Yes, really. If you saw a different video than the one I saw maybe you could post it. The reports on the news and the videos I was able to pull up on YouTube showed the police choking Garner and cuffing him. I saw no one call  the EMT's nor anyone acting in a concerned or agitated manner over the fact that he had stopped breathing. They looked as if they had just given him a parking ticket. Maybe they cuff people who stop breathing so often that this is nothing out of the ordinary for them? I just didn't see any open concern for his condition. They looked quite casual about the whole event.

Joanimaroni wrote:I had to tap the screen several times. The film stops as they are placing Garner on the gurney.

Sal wrote:I can see it.

It's the same video we've seen over and over of Eric Garner being taken down and choked out.

What's the point?