FOR FLORIDATEXAN AND TEO: A REAL 9/11 conspiracy likely did take place. But it was NOT the one you've been manipulated by tinfoilers to think it was.

It was this one.  And before you read this article,  remember you're not reading an article published by a news source which was an adversary of the Bush Administration.  The New York Post is owned and operated by Rupert Murdoch and News Corp who also own and operate Fox News.  


http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/

Nobody manipulated me Bob... I left the building you stayed in it because you trusted those that said it was safe...the authorities....I left ....

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Nobody manipulated me Bob... I left the building you stayed in it because you trusted those that said it was safe...the authorities....I left ....

I have no clue what that post is even supposed to mean.  What building is it that you left and I stayed in?  If it's the dormitory at Chattahoochee, I did see it from the highway many years ago.  But I never got inside of it.

Back to the topic.  
The only reason the Bush Administration ever provided for redacting this information,  was given to us in 2002.  They claimed it was necessary to classify the 28 pages because they contained information "U.S. authorities still were using to hunt down terrorists".  
It's now 12 years later and the terrorists responsible for 9/11 have been hunted down,  waterboarded and in the case of the leader, (Bin Laden), shot dead long ago.  All the terrorists that is except those in the Saudi government.

In December of last year,  9/11 survivors and their allies on Capitol Hill renewed their efforts to have the information released, pushing for enactment of a congressional resolution urging the 28 pages be made public. Reps. Walter Jones (a republican) and Stephen Lynch (a democrat) said they decided to sponsor the resolution after reading the classified contents.
Jones, speaking later at a March 12 news conference on Capitol Hill, described the report as "shocking."

But the resolution received almost no attention from the regular media.  And it has received almost as little attention from the "alternate" (internet) media which continues to pump out thousands more pages of the "controlled demolition" nonsense.
And the coverup of the real conspiracy continues.

It was a very clear reference to this post you made but I guess I over reached in this case.....

Bob Said:.....But if it's any consolation to you,  I'll say this.  If I was inside one of those buildings when it happened,  and then turned on a television or radio to find out exactly what was happening (which I'm sure many of them did),  and I saw bodies falling outside my window,  I wouldn't give a shit what any fireman or cop or anybody else was telling me to do,  I would be RUNNING down those stairs so fast that I would probably suffer a heart attack in the stairwell on the way down.
And not only that,  after seeing what happened to the Twin Towers,  I agree with Chris Rock.  I wouldn't go inside that "Freedom Tower" if you paid me to.  Hell I went to the top of the Empire State Building last year and the whole time I was inside it I was thinking "I need to get the hell out of here before those muslims (or Dick Cheney or "the jews" or whoever) do it again".
This time I actually am a "scaredy cat" to use seaoat's pet word. lol


Actually Bob you would have stayed in the building as I see it. You are still trusting the authorities to tell you what to think.....

You need to think outside the box Bob...or building in this case.

There was a conspiracy to fly those planes into American buildings. There is not one thinking American who doubts the same. However, who initiated the same is up for speculation. To simply say the Saudis had their fingerprints on this conspiracy begs the question, at the bequest of whom............that question has never even been explored because of the intentional misdirection from real conspiracy to tin foil land conspiracy about no planes, and demolition. It makes any inquiry into real conspiracy seem like more tinfoil lunacy. The attack on America was a conspiracy. We have not even made a half hearted attempt after spending close to five trillion dollars in response as to who benefited from the same and who ultimately was responsible. Instead we are bogged down by idiocy and mental illness.

teo,

For over ten goddamn years I've listened to hundreds of you tinfoil hat types (on dozens of different websites) tell me the only reason I don't believe in controlled demolitions,  and "missiles" hitting the pentagon instead of an airliner, and airliner "holograms", and "the jews did it",  and "the hijackers are all still alive",  and  "bin laden never existed",  and all the rest of that totally childish crap;  is "it's because you believe everything Bush and the government tells you".
And now here you are saying it again.

How in the name of fucking sense can anything I've written in this thread be an indication that "I trust the government".  IT'S ALL all an indication that I DO NOT "trust the government".  Can you even read?  lol

And it's not just Bush's government I don't trust.  I don't trust the government which came after Bush either.  Why should I when it continues the coverup...

from the Philadelphia Enquirer...

Bill Doyle's recollection of his chat with President Obama remains crystal clear.

To mark bin Laden's demise, Obama had laid a wreath at the former site of the World Trade Center on May 5, 2011, and met later in the day with families of victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks at a reception near ground zero.

The president stopped at Doyle's table midway through the event, and Doyle asked when the government would make public portions of a congressional investigation that weighed evidence that Saudi Arabia provided support to the 9/11 hijackers.

"He said, 'Bill, I will get them released,' " Doyle recalled.

Doyle, whose 25-year-old son, Joseph, a trader at the investment firm of Cantor Fitzgerald L.P., died in the World Trade Center attacks, has been a leader of survivors and family organizations pushing the government to release more information.

Doyle isn't the only one who says Obama promised to make public the contents of 28 redacted pages in the December 2002 joint inquiry report by members of the Senate and House intelligence committees that considered evidence of potential Saudi involvement.

Kristen Breitweiser, a New Jersey widow who for years was a leading voice of 9/11 survivors, said Obama made the same promise to her and others at a meeting at the Eisenhower Executive Office building adjoining the White House in February 2009, shortly after he took office.

"We had opportunities to raise our hands and ask questions, and I asked him whether he would be interested in releasing the 28 pages, because for years we had been trying to get President Bush to do it," said Breitweiser, who now lives in New York and whose husband, Ronald, worked on the 94th floor of the South Tower and died in the attacks.

Obama "said absolutely, I don't see why not. The bottom line is he agreed to do it, and he gave me and the rest of the world his promise," Breitweiser said.


http://articles.philly.com/2014-03-31/business/48708504_1_osama-president-obama-law-firm

3 years ago from The Tampa Bay Times:

SARASOTA — Weeks after terrorists brought down the World Trade Center, FBI agents swarmed into a Sarasota gated community to investigate the mysterious disappearance of a wealthy young Saudi couple who apparently had ties to some of the hijackers.

The couple and their two children abandoned their home abruptly, just a week or so before Sept. 11, leaving behind cars, furniture and food on countertops.

According to one published report, the FBI discovered phone calls between the house and at least two of the hijackers and several other terrorism suspects stretching back a year.

Yet until a Fort Lauderdale website reported the news this week, no mention of the couple has ever appeared publicly — not in the Sept. 11 commission report, nor in FBI briefings to congressional investigators, former Florida Sen. Bob Graham said Friday.

Graham called on President Barack Obama to reopen the case.

"This is the most important thing about 9/11 to surface in the last seven or eight years,'' Graham told the St. Petersburg Times. "It's very important for the White House to take control of this situation. The key umbrella question is: What was the full extent of Saudi involvement prior to 9/11 and why did the U.S. administration cover this up?''

The Sarasota revelations parallel earlier information about a Saudi government employee who had lived in California for years, Graham said. That man, Omar al-Bayoumi, had paid for a San Diego apartment for two of the hijackers, funneled them money and then left the United States in July 2011.

Graham thinks Bayoumi and the Sarasota husband and wife, as well as her wealthy father could have helped form a shadow support system for the hijackers.

"These 19 people did not play out this plot as lone wolves,'' Graham said. "The chances that 19 people, most of whom had never been in the U.S., who did not speak English, and most of whom did not know each other, could have completed training, practiced and executed such a complicated plot defies common sense.''

The current administration should re-examine whether hijackers who stayed in New Jersey, Virginia and other U.S. cities also had secret Saudi supporters.

One Saudi living in America before Sept. 11 was Esam Ghazzawi, a financier and interior designer, who had built "a gigantic house'' on two waterfront lots on Longboat Key, according to former neighbor Betty Blair.

"I think he sent his kids to camp here, and that's why he'd come in the summers,'' she recalled on Friday.

In 1995, Ghazzawi and his American wife, Debra, paid $350,000 for a home in Prestancia, a lush gated community in south Sarasota.

Their daughter Anoud moved in, along with her husband, Abdulazzi al-Hiijjii, and their twin babies, neighbors said.

Abdulazzi appeared to be in his 20s, Anoud even younger, said neighbor Tom DiBello, who now lives in Fort Lauderdale. Abdulazzi said he was a student. Anoud was very religious.

"He would come over for a cigarette and a drink and to get away from that praying every two hours,'' DiBello said

The couple's house was elaborately furnished, with Persian rugs, statues and over-sized furniture. The wife's family supposedly had royal connections.

"He said his wife's father was friends with the prince or king or something,'' DiBello said.

Another neighbor, Patrick Gallagher, said he never saw Anoud in three years. Gallagher had only one contact with Abdulazzi — when he helped the Arab man fix his sprinkler system.

Then on Labor Day weekend 2001, Gallagher noticed "an incredible amount of trash'' piled in front of the al-Hiijjii home.

He asked one of the association directors, "What the hell is that trash doing there? There won't be any pickup until Tuesday or Wednesday.

"She said, 'They went back to Saudi Arabia and said they weren't ever coming back.' ''

Gallagher found it strange that a car was left in the driveway and that the house was not for sale.

He grew more suspicious a few days after Sept. 11 when it turned out that two of the hijackers had trained at a Venice flight school just 14 miles away. So Gallagher went on the FBI's website to report what he had seen.

What happened next comes from BrowardBulldog.org, a nonprofit investigative website in Fort Lauderdale that broke the Sarasota story this week, along with Irish journalist Anthony Summers, whose book The Eleventh Day: The full story of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden, is due out next month.

Several weeks after Gallagher's tip, FBI agents arrived at Prestancia and discovered that guard gate logs of vehicle tags showed the al-Hiijjiis had received important visitors. A car owned by Sept. 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta had gone through. Driver's license information indicated that Atta and fellow hijacker Ziad Jarrah were in the car.

Phone records from the al-Hiijjiis' home contained calls to Atta, hijacker Marwan al-Shehhi and other terrorist suspects.

BrowardBulldog.org attributed this information to Larry Berberich, then a consultant for the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office who also oversaw security at Prestancia, and an unnamed "counterterrorism agent'' who had worked the case.

Both entered the abandoned al-Hiijjii house. "There was mail on the table, dirty diapers in one of the bathrooms and all the toiletries still in place . . . all their clothes hanging in the closet,'' BrowardBulldog.org reported.

Berberich could not be reached for comment Friday.

The counterterrorism agent said the FBI tracked the couple's departure. They left the United States along with her father, Esam Ghazzawi, and ended up in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

According to BrowardBulldog.org, the counterterrorism agent said Ghazzawi and Abdulazzi Hiijii were both on the FBI's watch list before Sept. 11.

The house stayed vacant until it was sold in 2003.

Summers, the Irish author, recently stumbled across the Sarasota story while researching his book, said Graham, who has known Summers for years. Summers joined forces with BrowardBulldog.org because he is friends with editor Dan Christensen, Christensen said.

Graham, who co-chaired the joint congressional committee that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks, noted that the FBI heavily redacted portions of the committee's report that dealt with the extent of Saudi involvement.

Graham said he did not know why the FBI kept information about the Sarasota couple close to the vest. But he has a theory:

"The administration was so focused on avoiding a second attack that they decided they could not run the risk of irritating the Saudis and this was the results of that.''

Neither the FBI nor Justice Department responded Friday to a request for comment.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/new-evidence-links-saudi-arabia-to-911-hijackers-graham/1190773