Child poverty in U.S. is at highest point in 20 years, report finds

2seaoat wrote:But counter help should make $15.00 an hour at McDonalds.


Maybe not 15, but certainly 9 or 10 right now would start to solve the subsidy the American people are giving Macs as their employees get food stamps and other help from government all the while Macs makes record profits.

I worked my way through college on minimum wage jobs....a kid today cannot do that in eighty hours a week.

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:So,  giving more handouts is the answer. Ignore the root of the problem.

And just what is "the root of the problem?"  

What about making sure workers are paid a living wage?  Or is that too caring for you and your lot?

2seaoat wrote:So raising the minimum wage does nothing whatsoever.

Your understanding of economics is limited.  You choose the price of gas in 1970 when we imported very little oil.  You did not look at the median income figure.  Demand is driven by purchases.  Our GDP is almost two thirds driven by consumer demand.   When this country in the early 80s consciously began war on labor, the median income of Americans began to slip in real dollars and wealth began transferring to the wealthiest Americans.  As the gap increased the size of the pie stagnated and started a vicious cycle which has crippled this nation and created this terrible wealth gap.  We need to start fixing the structural changes which started with Reagan.  At the time I thought it was the only way to grow the pie.....trickle down would work.....well I was wrong, and I am no longer going to hide from the truth.

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:So,  giving more handouts is the answer. Ignore the root of the problem.

And just what is "the root of the problem?"  

What about making sure workers are paid a living wage?  Or is that too caring for you and your lot?

Usually wages are based on education, technical training and ability.  My lot has to comply....how about yours?

Free education.....all you have to do is show the fuck up.

Markle wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

Markle wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

gatorfan wrote:Lesley and Flores called on the federal government to take 10 specific steps to turn things around for kids, including:

-- set a national target date for the elimination of child poverty;  

-- cut maltreatment deaths in half by 2018;

-- step up funding for pediatric research;

-- invest in children’s nutrition programs;

-- extend Medicaid insurance programs for children;

-- enforce a mandatory criminal background check for every firearm sale; and

-- increase the number of mental health-care providers by enhancing Medicaid reimbursement rates.

Rather than list all of these bullet points, they could have just said "Don't vote for republicans."

Thank you for further confirming your drastic misinformation.  Please explain why all these categories of poverty have radically increased since semi-retired President Barack Hussein Obama took office.  

Poverty rates for children have been on the rise since 2000.  This isn't a phenomenon that started with Obama.  




With that said, I suspect that this trend - which has been in place since the 80's - probably has much to do with it.

When you find something going up to TODAY, let us know.  My gosh, you're trying to defend THIS administration with graphs that stop two years before he took office.  

How about showing the average and median household income since semi-retired President Obama took office.  

PkrBum wrote:Let's just add a zero to the end of every whole number. Why doesn't anyone care about the root issue... our currency?

boards of FL wrote:

PkrBum wrote:Let's just add a zero to the end of every whole number. Why doesn't anyone care about the root issue... our currency?

Because that isn't the root issue.

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:So,  giving more handouts is the answer. Ignore the root of the problem.

And just what is "the root of the problem?"  

What about making sure workers are paid a living wage?  Or is that too caring for you and your lot?

Usually wages are based on education, technical training and ability.  My lot has to comply....how about yours?

Free education.....all you have to do is show the fuck up.

That explains why so many Walmart and MacDonald's workers are on foodstamps, including those with college degrees ...  Reality!

2seaoat wrote:What do you think is the root issue?

Wealth has no country and has no loyalty.  When our tax codes were changed to allow the accumulation of wealth by fewer and fewer people, that lack of loyalty is the root of this nations ills since 1982.  Real growth in the median income, return of the tax codes to the mid eighty rates, massive tax credits for job creation and retention, huge investments in infrastructure, disengagement from special interests and the MIC, and the root cause of this nation's quagmire will begin to cause further movement than what we have seen the last 6 years.   This year will be a record grain crop.  This year will bring near record oil and gas production.  This year will bring record corporate profits.  It is time to use the tax code to maximize our economy for all our citizens.  A nation of beggars will never happen if wealth is forced to be loyal or find another country.   Evil will fail.

2seaoat wrote:What do you think is the root issue?

Wealth has no country and has no loyalty.  When our tax codes were changed to allow the accumulation of wealth by fewer and fewer people, that lack of loyalty is the root of this nations ills since 1982.  Real growth in the median income, return of the tax codes to the mid eighty rates, massive tax credits for job creation and retention, huge investments in infrastructure, disengagement from special interests and the MIC, and the root cause of this nation's quagmire will begin to cause further movement than what we have seen the last 6 years.   This year will be a record grain crop.  This year will bring near record oil and gas production.  This year will bring record corporate profits.  It is time to use the tax code to maximize our economy for all our citizens.  A nation of beggars will never happen if wealth is forced to be loyal or find another country.   Evil will fail.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:So,  giving more handouts is the answer. Ignore the root of the problem.

And just what is "the root of the problem?"  

What about making sure workers are paid a living wage?  Or is that too caring for you and your lot?

Usually wages are based on education, technical training and ability.  My lot has to comply....how about yours?

Free education.....all you have to do is show the fuck up.

That explains why so many Walmart and MacDonald's workers are on foodstamps, including those with college degrees ...  Reality!

Do you think that just maybe they should have gotten a degree is something other than gender science or music history, they might have a great job.  A degree in engineering, computer science or other professions might have made a difference.

Why is it Walmart's or McDonalds responsibility to pay someone far more than their value?

Tell us Wordslinger, how many households are supported by only one person earning minimum wage?

2seaoat wrote:What do you think is the root issue?

Wealth has no country and has no loyalty.  When our tax codes were changed to allow the accumulation of wealth by fewer and fewer people, that lack of loyalty is the root of this nations ills since 1982.  Real growth in the median income, return of the tax codes to the mid eighty rates, massive tax credits for job creation and retention, huge investments in infrastructure, disengagement from special interests and the MIC, and the root cause of this nation's quagmire will begin to cause further movement than what we have seen the last 6 years.   This year will be a record grain crop.  This year will bring near record oil and gas production.  This year will bring record corporate profits.  It is time to use the tax code to maximize our economy for all our citizens.  A nation of beggars will never happen if wealth is forced to be loyal or find another country.   Evil will fail.

Wordslinger wrote:

What's that got to do with the ever increasing number of children living in poverty in the U.S.A.?

Who should determine the value of a worker?  The capitalist who seeks to exploit his workers?  The issue is children living in poverty, and you obviously don't give a damn as long as the ultra rich get more and more and more ...  

And you wonder why most Americans hate the republican party more than they hate Obama?  Reality.

2seaoat wrote:As you know, that is wrong. That is if your goal is to reduce poverty among children and not simply redistribute wealth in line your Socialistic goals.

No, a person could call any tax collected socialistic......but that would require again an IQ south of 80.  The tax code can either encourage vibrant longterm economic growth, or it can discourage it.  Since 1982 we have seen what the disaster of trickle down economics has done to this nation.

Markle wrote:
You are a hoot!

We enjoyed economic growth for a quarter century since President Ronald Reagan was elected in 1981.

Until the Democrat Driven economic collapse in 2008 in the housing/mortgage and financial world.

Keep up the good work 2seaoat.  Must be your drugs but you're getting to be more and more fun!

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:
You are a hoot!

We enjoyed economic growth for a quarter century since President Ronald Reagan was elected in 1981.

Until the Democrat Driven economic collapse in 2008 in the housing/mortgage and financial world.

Keep up the good work 2seaoat.  Must be your drugs but you're getting to be more and more fun!

The attendants must have let poster Markle into the computer room this afternoon.....

In a bid to boost minority homeownership, President Bush will ask Congress for authority to eliminate the down-payment requirement for Federal Housing Administration loans.

In announcing the plan Monday at a home builders show in Las Vegas, Federal Housing Commissioner John Weicher called the proposal the "most significant FHA initiative in more than a decade." It would lead to 150,000 first-time owners annually, he said.

While the overall homeownership rate has reached an all-time high of nearly 68 percent, recent statistics point to a homeownership gap. The second quarter 2002 Census data show that non-Hispanic whites have a 74.3% homeownership rate, while African-Americans have a 48% rate, Hispanics a 47.6% rate; and Asian-Americans and other races a 53.7% homeownership rate.

In June, President Bush announced an aggressive homeownership agenda to dismantle barriers to homeownership by providing down payment assistance, increasing the supply of affordable homes, increasing support for self-help homeownership programs, and simplifying the homebuying process and increasing education. The President also issued "America's Homeownership Challenge" to the real estate and mortgage finance industries to join in his effort to increase the number of minority homeowners by taking concrete steps to tear down the barriers to homeownership that face minority families.

The Bush Administration is working to increase homeownership among minority Americans through a number of new and expanded initiatives, as well as through ongoing programs administered by HUD and other federal departments, including:

The President set a goal to increase the number of minority homeowners by 5.5 million families by the end of the decade. Through his homeownership challenge, the President called on the private sector to help in this effort. More than two dozen companies and organizations have made commitments to increase minority homeownership - including pledges to provide more than $1.1 trillion in mortgage purchases for minority homebuyers this decade.

The Administration proposed the Zero-Downpayment Initiative to allow the Federal Housing Administration to insure mortgages for first-time homebuyers without a downpayment. Projections indicate this could generate over 150,000 new homeowners in the first year alone.

I set an ambitious goal. It`s one that I believe we can achieve. It`s a clear goal, that by the end of this decade we`ll increase the number of minority homeowners by at least 5.5 million families. (Applause.)

...

Freddie Mac recently began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers and create greater opportunities for homeownership. One of the programs is designed to help deserving families who have bad credit histories to qualify for homeownership loans. Freddie Mac is also working with the Department of Defense to promote construction and financing for housing for men and women in the military.

There`s all kinds of ways that we can work together to meet the goal. Corporate America has a responsibility to work to make America a compassionate place. Corporate America has responded. As an example — only one of many examples — the good folks at Sears and Roebuck have responded by making a five-year, $100 million commitment to making homeownership and home maintenance possible for millions of Americans.

There have been other steps that are being taken to close the homeownership gap. And you`ve heard some of the stories here today, people much more eloquent than me, to talk about what`s taking place on the front line of meeting this national goal.

ATLANTA — President Bush on Monday promoted his campaign to boost homeownership among minorities, saying he wanted the number of black and Latino homeowners to increase by at least 5.5 million by the end of the decade.

Bush, acknowledging he had set "a big goal," said it was achievable with the help of the private sector.

"When I lay out a goal, I mean it," Bush told several hundred people at Atlanta's St. Paul AME Church, which is located in a once-dilapidated, crime-infested neighborhood where a surge in home building has led to improvements.

Bush wants to close the gap in homeownership rates between whites and minorities, particularly blacks and Latinos. The nation's overall homeownership rate is at an all-time high of nearly 68%, the Department of Housing and Urban Development said. But whereas nearly three-quarters of all white Americans own their homes, less than half of all African Americans and Latinos do.

"And that's got to change for the good of the country," Bush said. "And I believe those of us who have been given positions of responsibility must do everything we can to spotlight the [American] dream and to make sure the dream shines in all neighborhoods, all throughout our country."

And let me talk about some of the progress which we have made to date, as an example for others to follow. First of all, government sponsored corporations that help create our mortgage system -- I introduced two of the leaders here today -- they call those people Fannie May and Freddie Mac, as well as the federal home loan banks, will increase their commitment to minority markets by more than $440 billion. (Applause.) I want to thank Leland and Franklin for that commitment. It's a commitment that conforms to their charters, as well, and also conforms to their hearts.

This means they will purchase more loans made by banks after Americans, Hispanics and other minorities, which will encourage homeownership. Freddie Mac will launch 25 initiatives to eliminate homeownership barriers. Under one of these, consumers with poor credit will be able to get a mortgage with an interest rate that automatically goes down after a period of consistent payments. (Applause.)

Fannie Mae will establish 100 partnerships with faith-based organizations that will provide home buyer education and help increase homeownership for their congregations. I love the partnership. (Applause.)