Ferguson's a giant IED . .

Bob wrote:I have to agree with damaged eagle on this one.
Why haven't the black people put up their own candidates when they are the majority of the populace?   Candidates who would become black elected officials who would then order the police department to hire more black cops.
In other words,  why haven't they done what every black majority in every community in the southeast has done?  Is it because they're morons?  
Or maybe it's because they're scaredy cats like seaoat talks about.

Sal wrote:

Bob wrote:I have to agree with damaged eagle on this one.
Why haven't the black people put up their own candidates when they are the majority of the populace?   Candidates who would become black elected officials who would then order the police department to hire more black cops.
In other words,  why haven't they done what every black majority in every community in the southeast has done?  Is it because they're morons?  
Or maybe it's because they're scaredy cats like seaoat talks about.

They shot an unarmed black teenager in the street and left his body lying there uncovered for four hours and no arrest was made and no report was filed and they wouldn't even release the name of the killer until public demand became unbearable and they have repeatedly attempted to taint the grand jury with leaks and misinformation ....

.... and, you think the solution for African Americans in Ferguson, MO is to trust the system?

Your comments are absolutely brimming with white privilege.

Sal wrote:

Bob wrote:I have to agree with damaged eagle on this one.
Why haven't the black people put up their own candidates when they are the majority of the populace?   Candidates who would become black elected officials who would then order the police department to hire more black cops.
In other words,  why haven't they done what every black majority in every community in the southeast has done?  Is it because they're morons?  
Or maybe it's because they're scaredy cats like seaoat talks about.

They shot an unarmed black teenager in the street and left his body lying there uncovered for four hours and no arrest was made and no report was filed and they wouldn't even release the name of the killer until public demand became unbearable and they have repeatedly attempted to taint the grand jury with leaks and misinformation ....

.... and, you think the solution for African Americans in Ferguson, MO is to trust the system?

Your comments are absolutely brimming with white privilege.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Why don't you explain to us how a community of mostly black people can be oppressed and not have control of their local government along with being incapable of starting their own businesses and having their own police force made up of mostly black people.

I find it hard to believe that such a community composed of mostly black people can be oppressed in such a manner as you portray unless there are no leaders in the community.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOuUYcenW0

Wordslinger wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Why don't you explain to us how a community of mostly black people can be oppressed and not have control of their local government along with being incapable of starting their own businesses and having their own police force made up of mostly black people.

I find it hard to believe that such a community composed of mostly black people can be oppressed in such a manner as you portray unless there are no leaders in the community.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOuUYcenW0

I'm not sure why the Afro-American segment of Ferguson's inhabitants haven't voted their own people onto the city council and forced the police department to have a fully integrated workforce.

Maybe part of the problem is the high number of blacks living there who have felony convictions, most of which stem from being targeted for minor traffic violations as a policy of the Police Department to raise money for the city.  The area suffers from abnormally high unemployment and I've read that when a traffic violation defendant fails to appear (because they can't afford the fine) crime elevates to a felony.  

Clearly, Ferguson's 6-man city council, with one black member, has a long history of keeping blacks out of the election process, any way they can.
And maybe also, there haven't been active political organizers working to correct the situation ... but there are now.

Pacedog's insistence on reminding us of Mr. Brown's size and aggressiveness, etc., is of course, a way to avoid dealing with the issue I put forward; that Ferguson is a race-riot time bomb, and that the white leaders of that county are itching to use their killing skills.

Yes, the point you make that it could have all been different if the black population of Ferguson had participated in their government.  If that had been true (it's not), Brown's death wouldn't be the powder keg it is now.
Even so, faced with electoral decisions like the governorship of Florida -- Crist or Scott -- I can well understand the African-American citizens of Ferguson who have given up on a government they don't trust, with very good reason.  Why participate if your vote is meaning-less?  

Who puts up the money to run a political campaign in Ferguson?  Who helps decide who will run?

Maybe you have the answers.  Chuckle.

Missouri GOP Chief Thinks Helping Ferguson Residents Register To Vote Is ‘Disgusting’

Floridatexan wrote:People appear to be making assumptions based on nothing more than what appears to be a very slanted coroner's report (didn't the coroner even state that her words were taken out of context?).  

I think the door to the police car hit the "suspect", swung back and hit the deputy in the face.  Then, his firearm, either purposely or accidentally, discharged, hitting the "suspect" in the hand.  I think the deputy was having a bad day and was enraged by the door hitting him in the face.  So he vented that rage on the "suspect".  

 

Joanimaroni wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:People appear to be making assumptions based on nothing more than what appears to be a very slanted coroner's report (didn't the coroner even state that her words were taken out of context?).  

I think the door to the police car hit the "suspect", swung back and hit the deputy in the face.  Then, his firearm, either purposely or accidentally, discharged, hitting the "suspect" in the hand.  I think the deputy was having a bad day and was enraged by the door hitting him in the face.  So he vented that rage on the "suspect".  

 

Wrong thread for your made up ( what you want it to be)BS.

Wordslinger wrote:It seems clear from the conservatives who have voiced their opinions on this thread, that the oppression the black folks of Ferguson have suffered is all due to their inability to get off their lazy, depressed asses and vote for change.

They should raise enough money to challenge the weathy white businesses who fund their opposition, and then all of them who don't have felonies on their criminal records should get out and vote.  With proper ID of course.

Reality!

Floridatexan wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:People appear to be making assumptions based on nothing more than what appears to be a very slanted coroner's report (didn't the coroner even state that her words were taken out of context?).  

I think the door to the police car hit the "suspect", swung back and hit the deputy in the face.  Then, his firearm, either purposely or accidentally, discharged, hitting the "suspect" in the hand.  I think the deputy was having a bad day and was enraged by the door hitting him in the face.  So he vented that rage on the "suspect".  

 

Wrong thread for your made up ( what you want it to be)BS.

I'm so sorry it offends your delicate sensibilities.  (Actually, I'm not, and you don't seem to have those).  My theory is as good as any you've presented.  If you dispute my theory, please provide valid backup for your assumptions.

Joanimaroni wrote:
I haven't presented any theories.

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:
I haven't presented any theories.

You've said that Brown assaulted Wilson.

That's a theory that is contradicted by some witnesses.

Others say Brown was simply trying to escape.

FT's theory is more believable than the bullshit story Wilson has spun.

Joanimaroni wrote:What excuse do you have for the riots, looting and burning of buildings?  The residents seem to find time to show up night after night to protest their oppression yet unwilling to change  their own situation....the system can not change the residents. Ferguson residents have to take the inititive to make their life better...........Personal responsibility.  

Joanimaroni wrote:

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:
I haven't presented any theories.

You've said that Brown assaulted Wilson.

That's a theory that is contradicted by some witnesses.

Others say Brown was simply trying to escape.

FT's theory is more believable than the bullshit story Wilson has spun.

No theory.
Brown committed a strong armed robbery.
Brown had Marijuana in his system.
The officer, according to reports not theory, was assaulted by Brown while in his car.
Brown grabbed for the officer's gun, according to reports. The gun fired twice.
Assaulting an officer is a felony.
Some witnesses stated Brown was shot in the back.
Some witnesses said Brown's hands were up.
Some witnesses say they were not up.
Brown was shot and killed.
Some say he was charging the officer.
Some say he was not.