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2seaoat wrote:Seriously...mustard gas...wasn't that from WWI?
Nope it came from Reagan and Bush 1. We and the British gave them the components for the weapons during the Iraq and Iran war. Mustard gas is not a weapon of mass destruction. The anthrax and biological agents we gave them however should never have happened. It was intended for conventional weapons in that war. Not once did I hear C. Powell in front of the UN telling the world that President Reagan and Bush 1 gave them the components for these weapons. We knew those existed, but like the UN inspectors said, this was a given and they were destroyed. In 2002 digging up decaying early 1980 buried arms were not weapons of mass destruction. Please take the Blaze absurdities and sell it to some dead heads.
Floridatexan wrote:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-10-06-wmd_x.htm?csp=34
Posted 10/6/2004 12:27 AM Updated 10/7/2004 7:44 AM
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WASHINGTON — When the United States invaded Iraq last year to disarm Saddam Hussein's regime, there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or any facilities to build them, according to a definitive report released Wednesday.
U.S. arms inspector Charles Duelfer presented his findings Wednesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee.
By Tim Dillon, USA TODAY
The 1,000-page report by chief weapons searcher Charles Duelfer, a document that President Bush said would represent the last word on the issue, confirms earlier findings and undermines much of the Bush administration's case about the Iraq weapons threat, though it does say Saddam intended to restart his weapons programs once United Nations sanctions were lifted.
Using the research of the 1,700-member Iraq Survey Group, Duelfer concluded that Saddam ordered his arsenal of chemical and biological weapons destroyed in 1991 and 1992 and halted nuclear weapons development, all in hopes of lifting crippling economic sanctions.
"Saddam Hussein ended the nuclear program in 1991 following the Gulf War," the report states.
The findings were similarly definitive concerning chemical and biological weapons: "Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991" and the survey team found "no credible indications that Baghdad resumed production."
The report, released four weeks before the presidential election, immediately became political fodder.
Bush's spokesman said the report justified the decision to go to war. Campaigning in Pennsylvania, Bush defended the decision to invade.
"There was a risk, a real risk, that Saddam Hussein would pass weapons or materials or information to terrorist networks," the president said in a speech in Wilkes Barre, Pa. "In the world after Sept. 11, that was a risk we could not afford to take."
A spokesman for opponent John Kerry said the report "underscores the incompetence of George Bush's Iraq policy."
"George Bush refuses to come clean about the ways he misled our country into war," Kerry spokesman David Wade added.
"In short, we invaded a country, thousands of people have died, and Iraq never posed a grave or growing danger," said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.
The report resolves disputes about allegations made prior to the U.S. invasion:
• Aluminum tubes that the Bush administration alleged were for nuclear weapons production were, in fact, for making conventional artillery rockets.
• Iraq did not try to buy uranium overseas.
• The team found no evidence that Iraq was developing biological weapons trailers or rail cars. Two trailers found after the war were for producing hydrogen gas for weather balloons.
"The former regime had no formal written strategy or plan for the revival of WMD after sanctions," a report summary says. "Neither was there an identifiable group of WMD policymakers or planners separate from Saddam. Instead his lieutenants understood WMD revival was his goal from their long association with Saddam and his infrequent, but firm, verbal comments and directions to them."
The report's conclusions about Iraq's weapons plans came from interviews with jailed Iraqi officials, including Saddam, who is in U.S. military custody while awaiting an Iraqi war crimes trial. Duelfer quoted Saddam as telling an FBI interrogator "that nuclear weapons were the right of any country that could build them."
The report, which drew on CIA and FBI interrogation reports on Saddam, says he was obsessed with his status in the Arab world, dreaming of weapons of mass destruction to pump up his prestige. And even as the United States fixated on him, he was fixated on his neighboring enemy, Iran.
That is the picture that emerges from interrogations of the former Iraqi leader since his capture last December, according to the report, which gives a first glimpse into what the United States has gleaned about Saddam's hopes, dreams and insecurities.
The report suggests that Saddam tried to improve relations with the United States in the 1990s, yet basked in his standing as the only leader to stand up to the world's superpower.
Contributing: John Diamond, Judy Keen and The Associated Press
2seaoat wrote:Seriously...mustard gas...wasn't that from WWI?
In 2002 digging up decaying early 1980 buried arms were not weapons of mass destruction.
Floridatexan wrote:
Condi Rice's claim that "no one could have foreseen" an attack on the WTC...a
Bob wrote:One fact is totally beyond question. During Reagan's time as President, Saddam used chemical WMD's on Iran with the blessing of the Reagan Administration.
Here's the timeline...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemical_weapons_program
gatorfan wrote:Floridatexan wrote:
Condi Rice's claim that "no one could have foreseen" an attack on the WTC...a
Armchair quarterbacks with 20-20 hindsight are always amusing. Tell me, who could have foreseen the WTC attack and how? It's virtually impossible to defend against a murderous terrorist who is willing to die carrying out an attack.
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Facts are facts. There were WMDs in Iraq and the liberals have been living a lie and denigrating Bush who was telling the truth. If you don't think the stuff, found in the thousands of shells, isn't significant.... Please let us dump a truckload in your yard.
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:liberals have been living a lie and denigrating Bush who was telling the truth
George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice.... This nation has never had a bigger team of liars than that sorry bunch......
Sal wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:Facts are facts. There were WMDs in Iraq and the liberals have been living a lie and denigrating Bush who was telling the truth. If you don't think the stuff, found in the thousands of shells, isn't significant.... Please let us dump a truckload in your yard.
Sorry, PeeDawg, but that dog won't hunt.
We were sold the war on yellow cake, centrifuges, mobile chemical weapon labs, and mushroom clouds over U.S. cities.
It was all bullshit.
They never said that we were going over there to dig up some moldy old mustard gas shells buried in the desert.
That wouldn't have sold then, and it sure as shit doesn't sell now.
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Sal wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:Facts are facts. There were WMDs in Iraq and the liberals have been living a lie and denigrating Bush who was telling the truth. If you don't think the stuff, found in the thousands of shells, isn't significant.... Please let us dump a truckload in your yard.
Sorry, PeeDawg, but that dog won't hunt.
We were sold the war on yellow cake, centrifuges, mobile chemical weapon labs, and mushroom clouds over U.S. cities.
It was all bullshit.
They never said that we were going over there to dig up some moldy old mustard gas shells buried in the desert.
That wouldn't have sold then, and it sure as shit doesn't sell now.
It was total bullshit....Knee deep, in fact....
Sal wrote:You can put those bullshit quotes up until the cows come home, but they don't change a thing.
It was George W. Bush who chose to invade and occupy Iraq.
He was "the decider", remember?
Live with it.
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