Not all Muslims believe the same things .. .

Wordslinger wrote:Female mutilation is an African thing, not a Muslim thing.

Muslim women in Indonesia have every right a male has.  Not so in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

Here's an expert on Islam explaining what's real:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/06/1334660/-Reza-Aslan-defends-Islam-in-one-of-the-most-bigoted-segments-on-CNN?detail=email#

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Female mutilation is an African thing, not a Muslim thing.

Muslim women in Indonesia have every right a male has.  Not so in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

Here's an expert on Islam explaining what's real:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/06/1334660/-Reza-Aslan-defends-Islam-in-one-of-the-most-bigoted-segments-on-CNN?detail=email#

It doesn't matter until the moderates do something about their radicalized brothers.

Bob wrote:ALL Muslims believe the Quran is the inerrant word of God.  If they don't believe that,  they aren't Muslims.

The Quran...

4:34 Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other

4:176   unto the male is the equivalent of the share of two females (women are worth half what a man is worth)

64:14  your wives and your children are enemies for you, therefore beware of them.

2 :6-7 Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die.

2:17-18 Allah has blinded the disbelievers. "Allah taketh away their light and leaveth them in darkness, where they cannot see, Deaf, dumb and blind

2:61 Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations.

2:65-66 Allah turned Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes to be despised and hated. All modern Jews are descendants of apes (or all modern apes are descendants of Sabbath-breaking Jews).

2:85 Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next.

2:96 Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But even that "would by no means remove the doom."

2:114 Allah will make disbelievers' lives miserable in this world and torture them forever after they die.

2:178 If someone murders your slave, then you get to kill one of his. If it was a male that was killed, you kill one of the killer's male slaves. If a female, you kill a female.

2:191-2 Kill disbelievers wherever you find them.  (I guess this is what is meant by "the religion of peace")

2:193a  Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. (again,  "the religion of peace)

2:217 It's you and your religion against them and theirs. They won't stop fighting until they make you a "renegade from your religion" and if they succeed in that so you die in disbelief, Allah will burn you forever in the Fire.

Wordslinger wrote:

Bob:  Thanks for pointing out these gems.  I guess what it all boils down too (at 212F) is just how much of their religion a Muslim believes.

Same for Christians and Jews, and every other "believers."

In that sense, Maher is right and so was George Carlin.  

Bob wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Bob:  Thanks for pointing out these gems.  I guess what it all boils down too (at 212F) is just how much of their religion a Muslim believes.

Same for Christians and Jews, and every other "believers."

In that sense, Maher is right and so was George Carlin.  

The Quran is the sacred teachings of the Supreme Being.
If you believe it has bullshit in it then how can you still be a muslim?

The Bible is the sacred teachings of the Supreme Being.
If you believe it has bullshit in it then how can you still be a christian?

2seaoat wrote:
3.   I do not know what is childish Bullchit and what is not when talking about religion. 

SheWrites wrote:  faith does not come from a book

Bob wrote:

SheWrites wrote:  faith does not come from a book

If that's the case then Christianity needs to ditch the book.  But I've never yet been inside any Christian Church,  Catholic or Protestant,  where the clergy or the congregation has ditched "THE Good Book".  lol

Bob wrote:

SheWrites wrote:  faith does not come from a book

If that's the case then Christianity needs to ditch the book.  But I've never yet been inside any Christian Church,  Catholic or Protestant,  where the clergy or the congregation has ditched "THE Good Book".  lol

Damaged Eagle wrote:

My college psychology instructors, who were liberal, didn't like to cover Sigmund Freud other than giving him mention.

Th Dude wrote:It's strange that you can show enormous tolerance and seek to understand one religion... but then show extreme malice and vitriol to demean and marginalize another religion. That doesn't mesh with objective analysis... it's probably taught.

Especially when you are relatively safe in the bible belt... but would be persecuted and murdered in isis territory.

Sal wrote:

Bob wrote:

SheWrites wrote:  faith does not come from a book

If that's the case then Christianity needs to ditch the book.  But I've never yet been inside any Christian Church,  Catholic or Protestant,  where the clergy or the congregation has ditched "THE Good Book".  lol

I was brought up in Catholic schools and taken to Church every Sunday.

There were priests and nuns and teachers that would occasionally rail about "cafeteria Catholics".

That meant Catholics that went down the line picking and choosing the dogma they liked and discarding the rest.

It was meant as a derogatory term, but I came to believe that the vast majority of Christians are "cafeteria Christians".

And, I'm quite sure the same holds for Muslims.

Fundamentalism breeds extremism.
The vast majority of people are not extremists regardless of the religion.

Wordslinger wrote:Female mutilation is an African thing, not a Muslim thing.

Muslim women in Indonesia have every right a male has.  Not so in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

Here's an expert on Islam explaining what's real:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/06/1334660/-Reza-Aslan-defends-Islam-in-one-of-the-most-bigoted-segments-on-CNN?detail=email#

Th Dude wrote:

Th Dude wrote:It's strange that you can show enormous tolerance and seek to understand one religion... but then show extreme malice and vitriol to demean and marginalize another religion. That doesn't mesh with objective analysis... it's probably taught.

Especially when you are relatively safe in the bible belt... but would be persecuted and murdered in isis territory.

I guess there's no answer to this. That tells me that slingers religious dogma is without explanation... just another faith.

(indoctrination)

Th Dude wrote:

Th Dude wrote:

Th Dude wrote:It's strange that you can show enormous tolerance and seek to understand one religion... but then show extreme malice and vitriol to demean and marginalize another religion. That doesn't mesh with objective analysis... it's probably taught.

Especially when you are relatively safe in the bible belt... but would be persecuted and murdered in isis territory.

I guess there's no answer to this. That tells me that slingers religious dogma is without explanation... just another faith.

(indoctrination)

At what point do you begin to question what you believe? Before you question my belief... check yourself.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Female mutilation is an African thing, not a Muslim thing.

Muslim women in Indonesia have every right a male has.  Not so in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

Here's an expert on Islam explaining what's real:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/06/1334660/-Reza-Aslan-defends-Islam-in-one-of-the-most-bigoted-segments-on-CNN?detail=email#

Not likely.

Reliability of your "source".