Serious Question ....

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Sal, you are missing the point.  Totally missing the point.

The only point PeeDawg has ever had is the one on the top of his head.

There's a difference between reporting news and fear-mongering.

There's a difference between being informed and being irrationally terrified.

Sal wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Sal- http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Patient-With-Ebola-Like-Symptoms-Being-Treated-at-Howard-University-Hospital-278025181.html

Left wing news

Good post!

Let's compare.

Left wing news ....



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Wingnut news ....




Do ya see a difference?

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Sal, you are missing the point.  Totally missing the point.

The only point PeeDawg has ever had is the one on the top of his head.

There's a difference between reporting news and fear-mongering.

There's a difference between being informed and being irrationally terrified.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Moron, I posted a left wing news source MSM. It's sad you just don't get it.

Sal wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Sal, you are missing the point.  Totally missing the point.

The only point PeeDawg has ever had is the one on the top of his head.

There's a difference between reporting news and fear-mongering.

There's a difference between being informed and being irrationally terrified.

2seaoat wrote:A brave man dies once......a coward dies a thousand deaths.

I have a friend who was a smart engineer who was a rep for an industrial filter company.   He once was a brave man.   As he aged I saw him get more scared of living.....more retrenched in the illusion that somehow he could find safety.   It has been scary to see the transformation from a brave man into this indecisive, inflexible, old man who is afraid.   You cannot teach courage.  It just has to feel right and sadly I have seen his politics turn into the politics of fear........racism and a real need not to be around people who are not well off economically.   He wanted a corvette(I have a bunch of theories about people attracted to corvettes), and playing poker last night I heard the one time he takes it out of storage each year and drives it........it broke down.  I do not get any of it........buy a vehicle which represents something dear and cherished to you, and put it in storage to use once a year, and in this artificial world and illusion......the car breaks down.....stranding he and his wife........reality entered this sad illusion.   If you like the car......drive it and enjoy it frequently.....but like Silas Marner's gold hidden away in the floor boards.....only to be taken out and fondled......that novel written in 1861 goes to the core of many of our political problems and diversity between those who have assets and those who do not have assets..........the fear is overpowering.......please do not make any mistake......the hoarding of wealth is both evil and sad.

With little else to live for, Silas becomes infatuated with the money he earns for his work and hoards it, living off as little as possible. Every night he pulls his gold out from its hiding place beneath his floorboards to count it. He carries on in this way for fifteen years.

I think the aging process naturally tends to support conservative urges which are powerful fears of not being in control.

Th Dude wrote:There's not much that's more cowardly than sacrificing an individual's liberty for some perceived collective entitlement.

Sal wrote:Are cowardly people conservative because they're cowardly, or are conservatives cowardly because they're conservative?

Seriously, these people are in a blind panic about something new every other week.

Ebola, ISIS, immigrant children, blacks playing the knockout game ....

.... the list is endless.

It makes me wonder ....

Are easily frightened people inherently attracted to so-called conservative ideas for some reason?

Or, does the science denying and reality free right-wing echo chamber's endless fear-mongering induce this much panic?

Maybe, FAUX News just knows their audience.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Sal wrote:Are cowardly people conservative because they're cowardly, or are conservatives cowardly because they're conservative?

Seriously, these people are in a blind panic about something new every other week.

Ebola, ISIS, immigrant children, blacks playing the knockout game ....

.... the list is endless.

It makes me wonder ....

Are easily frightened people inherently attracted to so-called conservative ideas for some reason?

Or, does the science denying and reality free right-wing echo chamber's endless fear-mongering induce this much panic?

Maybe, FAUX News just knows their audience.

Here is a site with a boatload of reports on various studies re liberal and conservative personalities, thought processes, likes/dislikes etc.

One of my views on the lib/con differences is that liberals are less threatened by different ideas than are conservatives.

Just to toss out another thought, I wonder what William F. Buckley Jr. would think of the current positions and people in the so called conservative arena these days? I digress.

4. Liberals have more tolerance to uncertainty (bigger anterior cingulate cortex), and conservatives have more sensitivity to fear (bigger right amygdala).
Source: Gary Leisman, et al., 'Intentionality and 'Free-Will' from a

2. Reliance on quick, efficient, and "low effort" thought processes yields conservative ideologies, while effortful and deliberate reasoning yields liberal ideologies.              
     

http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004818

Sal wrote:Are cowardly people conservative because they're cowardly, or are conservatives cowardly because they're conservative?

Seriously, these people are in a blind panic about something new every other week.

Ebola, ISIS, immigrant children, blacks playing the knockout game ....

.... the list is endless.

It makes me wonder ....

Are easily frightened people inherently attracted to so-called conservative ideas for some reason?

Or, does the science denying and reality free right-wing echo chamber's endless fear-mongering induce this much panic?

Maybe, FAUX News just knows their audience.

Bob wrote:

Sal wrote:Are cowardly people conservative because they're cowardly, or are conservatives cowardly because they're conservative?

Seriously, these people are in a blind panic about something new every other week.

Ebola, ISIS, immigrant children, blacks playing the knockout game ....

.... the list is endless.

It makes me wonder ....

Are easily frightened people inherently attracted to so-called conservative ideas for some reason?

Or, does the science denying and reality free right-wing echo chamber's endless fear-mongering induce this much panic?

Maybe, FAUX News just knows their audience.

All this is true.
BUT,  as usual,  you're not even listening to the other side.  Because what they say is true is as well.
You and seaoat and the rest of the "liberals" are just as afraid as the "conservatives" except you're afraid of something different.  You're scared shitless of a world where the government is not always holding everyone's hand like a fairy godmother.  

Bob wrote:

Sal wrote:Are cowardly people conservative because they're cowardly, or are conservatives cowardly because they're conservative?

Seriously, these people are in a blind panic about something new every other week.

Ebola, ISIS, immigrant children, blacks playing the knockout game ....

.... the list is endless.

It makes me wonder ....

Are easily frightened people inherently attracted to so-called conservative ideas for some reason?

Or, does the science denying and reality free right-wing echo chamber's endless fear-mongering induce this much panic?

Maybe, FAUX News just knows their audience.

All this is true.
BUT,  as usual,  you're not even listening to the other side.  Because what they say is true is as well.
You and seaoat and the rest of the "liberals" are just as afraid as the "conservatives" except you're afraid of something different.  You're scared shitless of a world where the government is not always holding everyone's hand like a fairy godmother.  

Wordslinger wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Sal wrote:Are cowardly people conservative because they're cowardly, or are conservatives cowardly because they're conservative?

Seriously, these people are in a blind panic about something new every other week.

Ebola, ISIS, immigrant children, blacks playing the knockout game ....

.... the list is endless.

It makes me wonder ....

Are easily frightened people inherently attracted to so-called conservative ideas for some reason?

Or, does the science denying and reality free right-wing echo chamber's endless fear-mongering induce this much panic?

Maybe, FAUX News just knows their audience.

Here is a site with a boatload of reports on various studies re liberal and conservative personalities, thought processes, likes/dislikes etc.

One of my views on the lib/con differences is that liberals are less threatened by different ideas than are conservatives.

Just to toss out another thought, I wonder what William F. Buckley Jr. would think of the current positions and people in the so called conservative arena these days? I digress.

4. Liberals have more tolerance to uncertainty (bigger anterior cingulate cortex), and conservatives have more sensitivity to fear (bigger right amygdala).
Source: Gary Leisman, et al., 'Intentionality and 'Free-Will' from a

2. Reliance on quick, efficient, and "low effort" thought processes yields conservative ideologies, while effortful and deliberate reasoning yields liberal ideologies.              
     

http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004818

All of which means, liberals are braver and smarter than conservatives.  But we knew that anyway!!

othershoe1030 wrote:

.....One of my views on the lib/con differences is that liberals are less threatened by different ideas than are conservatives.....

Bob wrote:

All this is true.
BUT,  as usual,  you're not even listening to the other side.  Because what they say is true is as well.
You and seaoat and the rest of the "liberals" are just as afraid as the "conservatives" except you're afraid of something different.  You're scared shitless of a world where the government is not always holding everyone's hand like a fairy godmother.  

othershoe1030 wrote:


Yes we are a pretty tough bunch, thoughtful and not afraid of controversial ideas. We are not threatened by having our positions challenged. And, yes, we knew that already!

othershoe1030 wrote:

No Bob, it is not that liberals want the government holding our hand it is that we do not want it set up in such a way that it keeps shoveling money and tax breaks to people who don't need it and should be paying tax rates that help support government services that everyone uses.

It is that we see the wealth gap and below poverty wages creating a wealth distribution like the one of the Gilded Age and the Roaring 20's. It is not a healthy situation.

I am happy to see cities and states raising the minimum wage on their own without waiting for the 'do less than nothing' Congress to raise it on the national level. I am fed up with tax payers subsidizing the profits of corporations like Wal-mart by providing their workers with food stamps and who knows what other government payments simply because the richest family in the country wants more profits. Why are we subsidizing them?
I
We need to reform the tax code and raise the minimum wage but that is not going to happen until we have a Congress that is not in the pocket of the corporations. We need a government that is by and for the people. Until that happens the wealth gap will continue to grow until we have another huge "correction" and then and only then will (apparently) the eyes of the people be opened and reform will begin. (Although there are signs that more and more people are catching on the the underlying problems.)

Do not confuse the desire to have a government that works for all the people with the idea that we want it to hold our hands. Right now the government is holding hands with the corporations.

Sal wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

No Bob, it is not that liberals want the government holding our hand it is that we do not want it set up in such a way that it keeps shoveling money and tax breaks to people who don't need it and should be paying tax rates that help support government services that everyone uses.

It is that we see the wealth gap and below poverty wages creating a wealth distribution like the one of the Gilded Age and the Roaring 20's. It is not a healthy situation.

I am happy to see cities and states raising the minimum wage on their own without waiting for the 'do less than nothing' Congress to raise it on the national level. I am fed up with tax payers subsidizing the profits of corporations like Wal-mart by providing their workers with food stamps and who knows what other government payments simply because the richest family in the country wants more profits. Why are we subsidizing them?
I
We need to reform the tax code and raise the minimum wage but that is not going to happen until we have a Congress that is not in the pocket of the corporations. We need a government that is by and for the people. Until that happens the wealth gap will continue to grow until we have another huge "correction" and then and only then will (apparently) the eyes of the people be opened and reform will begin. (Although there are signs that more and more people are catching on the the underlying problems.)

Do not confuse the desire to have a government that works for all the people with the idea that we want it to hold our hands. Right now the government is holding hands with the corporations.

Tremendous post.

Really excellent.

Sal wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

No Bob, it is not that liberals want the government holding our hand it is that we do not want it set up in such a way that it keeps shoveling money and tax breaks to people who don't need it and should be paying tax rates that help support government services that everyone uses.

It is that we see the wealth gap and below poverty wages creating a wealth distribution like the one of the Gilded Age and the Roaring 20's. It is not a healthy situation.

I am happy to see cities and states raising the minimum wage on their own without waiting for the 'do less than nothing' Congress to raise it on the national level. I am fed up with tax payers subsidizing the profits of corporations like Wal-mart by providing their workers with food stamps and who knows what other government payments simply because the richest family in the country wants more profits. Why are we subsidizing them?
I
We need to reform the tax code and raise the minimum wage but that is not going to happen until we have a Congress that is not in the pocket of the corporations. We need a government that is by and for the people. Until that happens the wealth gap will continue to grow until we have another huge "correction" and then and only then will (apparently) the eyes of the people be opened and reform will begin. (Although there are signs that more and more people are catching on the the underlying problems.)

Do not confuse the desire to have a government that works for all the people with the idea that we want it to hold our hands. Right now the government is holding hands with the corporations.

Tremendous post.

Really excellent.

Sal wrote:[font=Arial Black]Are cowardly people conservative because they're cowardly, or are conservatives cowardly because they're conservative?

Seriously, these people are in a blind panic about something new every other week.

Ebola, ISIS, immigrant children, blacks playing the knockout game ....