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Eight reasons why what is happening in Iraq is not W's fault

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By David Rufful on June 26, 2014 in World News

1. Despite the pleas of top U.S. generals who advised against pulling out of Iraq without leaving residual force, Obama removed U.S. troops. Why? For the same reason he does everything else: Political purposes.

2. “Obama wanted out of Iraq, and ran in 2008 with a promise to do just that. A year after the troop pullout, during a 2012 debate, Mitt Romney said he wanted a residual force to remain. Obama pointedly disagreed, saying that leaving ’10,000 troops in Iraq … would tie us down.’” -Larry Elder

4. Obama claimed Iraq was “self-reliant and democratic” and “a country in which people from different religious sects and ethnicities can resolve their differences peacefully through the democratic process.”

5. Obama left Iraq prematurely. There is a reason we still have troops in Germany and Japan. If you’re going to leave before our goals are accomplished, then we shouldn’t have invaded. The problem is, Obama has no clear diplomatic goals. His actions demonstrate in intention of establishing democracy.

6. The intelligence communities in US, Israel, Britain, Germany, Russia, China and France all agreed that Saddam Hussein was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. Among newspaper editorials and political commentators who opposed the war, no one disputed the claim that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction because Iraq used weapons of mass destruction in their war against Iran.

7. In addition to WMDs, Hussein regularly paid $25,000 to the families of Palestinians who were suicide bombers or harboring terrorists. He attempted to shoot down Royal Air Force and U.S. Air Force planes over the no-fly zones created to prevent Hussein from mass slaughtering his own citizens.

8. President Bush did not invade Iraq until he obtained a resolution from the House of Representatives, obtained a resolution from the U.S. Senate and obtained a resolution from the United Nations. Gallup found that 76% of Americans support the Iraq war, the same percentage that supported the first Persian Gulf War. This process took 15 months. Before the war began, Hussein’s WMDs were moved out of Iraq and into Syria, as reported by James Clapper of National Intelligence, Iraqi top general Georges Sada in his book “Saddam’s Secrets,” and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

9.Had we not invaded? “…Saddam Hussein would have soon restarted his chemical and biological program — and resumed his pursuit for a nuclear capability. After the war started, Bush sent David Kay, a weapons hunter, to locate the assumed stockpiles of WMD. Kay found no stockpiles, but he did find that Saddam had the intent and the ability to restart his WMD program as soon as the heat was off.”

Is the current crisis in Iraq W’s fault? Clearly not.


http://youngcons.com/8-reasons-the-bloodbath-in-iraq-is-not-ws-fault/

Now let the slander begin.......

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

PACEDOG#1 wrote:By David Rufful on June 26, 2014 in World News

1. Despite the pleas of top U.S. generals who advised against pulling out of Iraq without leaving residual force, Obama removed U.S. troops. Why? For the same reason he does everything else: Political purposes.

2. “Obama wanted out of Iraq, and ran in 2008 with a promise to do just that. A year after the troop pullout, during a 2012 debate, Mitt Romney said he wanted a residual force to remain. Obama pointedly disagreed, saying that leaving ’10,000 troops in Iraq … would tie us down.’” -Larry Elder

4. Obama claimed Iraq was “self-reliant and democratic” and “a country in which people from different religious sects and ethnicities can resolve their differences peacefully through the democratic process.”

5. Obama left Iraq prematurely. There is a reason we still have troops in Germany and Japan. If you’re going to leave before our goals are accomplished, then we shouldn’t have invaded. The problem is, Obama has no clear diplomatic goals. His actions demonstrate in intention of establishing democracy.

6. The intelligence communities in US, Israel, Britain, Germany, Russia, China and France all agreed that Saddam Hussein was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. Among newspaper editorials and political commentators who opposed the war, no one disputed the claim that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction because Iraq used weapons of mass destruction in their war against Iran.

7. In addition to WMDs, Hussein regularly paid $25,000 to the families of Palestinians who were suicide bombers or harboring terrorists. He attempted to shoot down Royal Air Force and U.S. Air Force planes over the no-fly zones created to prevent Hussein from mass slaughtering his own citizens.

8. President Bush did not invade Iraq until he obtained a resolution from the House of Representatives, obtained a resolution from the U.S. Senate and obtained a resolution from the United Nations. Gallup found that 76% of Americans support the Iraq war, the same percentage that supported the first Persian Gulf War. This process took 15 months. Before the war began, Hussein’s WMDs were moved out of Iraq and into Syria, as reported by James Clapper of National Intelligence, Iraqi top general Georges Sada in his book “Saddam’s Secrets,” and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

9.Had we not invaded? “…Saddam Hussein would have soon restarted his chemical and biological program — and resumed his pursuit for a nuclear capability. After the war started, Bush sent David Kay, a weapons hunter, to locate the assumed stockpiles of WMD. Kay found no stockpiles, but he did find that Saddam had the intent and the ability to restart his WMD program as soon as the heat was off.”

Is the current crisis in Iraq W’s fault? Clearly not.


http://youngcons.com/8-reasons-the-bloodbath-in-iraq-is-not-ws-fault/

Now let the slander begin.......

YoungCONS is right.....

Definition of "Con:"
con
noun
1.The definition of a con is a disadvantage, a negative reason or a scam designed to trick or defraud someone.

That 8 point spread is the biggest load of horse-hooey anyone could put up.

Moreover, I bet not one of those "Young Cons" has ever even thought of enlisting and joining the fight in the GWOT. It is the Republican way--wave the flag and play "chickenhawk" while watching other young men and women fight and die for the cause.

The Iraq war was a clusterfuck from day one, and blaming Obama for Bush's major foreign policy blunders just doesn't wash. At least Bush is staying quiet about the current happenings in Iraq. Dick Cheney needs to just shut-up about it. His place in history is already written, and it is not a favorable one.

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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:By David Rufful on June 26, 2014 in World News

1. Despite the pleas of top U.S. generals who advised against pulling out of Iraq without leaving residual force, Obama removed U.S. troops. Why? For the same reason he does everything else: Political purposes.

2. “Obama wanted out of Iraq, and ran in 2008 with a promise to do just that. A year after the troop pullout, during a 2012 debate, Mitt Romney said he wanted a residual force to remain. Obama pointedly disagreed, saying that leaving ’10,000 troops in Iraq … would tie us down.’” -Larry Elder

4. Obama claimed Iraq was “self-reliant and democratic” and “a country in which people from different religious sects and ethnicities can resolve their differences peacefully through the democratic process.”

5. Obama left Iraq prematurely. There is a reason we still have troops in Germany and Japan. If you’re going to leave before our goals are accomplished, then we shouldn’t have invaded. The problem is, Obama has no clear diplomatic goals. His actions demonstrate in intention of establishing democracy.

6. The intelligence communities in US, Israel, Britain, Germany, Russia, China and France all agreed that Saddam Hussein was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. Among newspaper editorials and political commentators who opposed the war, no one disputed the claim that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction because Iraq used weapons of mass destruction in their war against Iran.

7. In addition to WMDs, Hussein regularly paid $25,000 to the families of Palestinians who were suicide bombers or harboring terrorists. He attempted to shoot down Royal Air Force and U.S. Air Force planes over the no-fly zones created to prevent Hussein from mass slaughtering his own citizens.

8. President Bush did not invade Iraq until he obtained a resolution from the House of Representatives, obtained a resolution from the U.S. Senate and obtained a resolution from the United Nations. Gallup found that 76% of Americans support the Iraq war, the same percentage that supported the first Persian Gulf War. This process took 15 months. Before the war began, Hussein’s WMDs were moved out of Iraq and into Syria, as reported by James Clapper of National Intelligence, Iraqi top general Georges Sada in his book “Saddam’s Secrets,” and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

9.Had we not invaded? “…Saddam Hussein would have soon restarted his chemical and biological program — and resumed his pursuit for a nuclear capability. After the war started, Bush sent David Kay, a weapons hunter, to locate the assumed stockpiles of WMD. Kay found no stockpiles, but he did find that Saddam had the intent and the ability to restart his WMD program as soon as the heat was off.”

Is the current crisis in Iraq W’s fault? Clearly not.


http://youngcons.com/8-reasons-the-bloodbath-in-iraq-is-not-ws-fault/

Now let the slander begin.......

YoungCONS is right.....

Definition of "Con:"
con
noun
1.The definition of a con is a disadvantage, a negative reason or a scam designed to trick or defraud someone.

That 8 point spread is the biggest load of horse-hooey anyone could put up.

Moreover, I bet not one of those "Young Cons" has ever even thought of enlisting and joining the fight in the GWOT. It is the Republican way--wave the flag and play "chickenhawk" while watching other young men and women fight and die for the cause.

The Iraq war was a clusterfuck from day one, and blaming Obama for Bush's major foreign policy blunders just doesn't wash. At least Bush is staying quiet about the current happenings in Iraq. Dick Cheney needs to just shut-up about it. His place in history is already written, and it is not a favorable one.

bush has stayed quiet the entire Obama presidency about everything.

Iraq was doing ok for a few years. there is some shared responsibility here. and I think it lies with the failure to deal with Syria firmly. red line and all.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Ti wrote:

bush has stayed quiet the entire Obama presidency about everything.


Bush finally found his calling in life, keeping his mouth shut. Too bad he didn't learn to do that before he said this in 2002.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

Or in 2000 when he said this...

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."


Or also in 2000...

"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"

Or we can fast forward to 2004...

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."


lol

Guest


Guest

....and where are your Obama quotes of improper speaking?
 
Obama loves the Marine CORPSE....


I don't see anything to rebut what was said Z. All you did was make a personal attack (name call) on the messenger. Guess truth hurts in finding your messiah has faults. When are you going to play the race card? Oh, that's right, Sal and Wordslinger do that here. Your job is to name call. FT and Dreams will do the other part of the SIN tactic ignore facts and shift the blame.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Looks like PeeDog is the one trying to shift the blame...for a war that was entering its 6th year by the time Obama took office. A war that was based on lies and hung on the coattails of 9/11 mass hysteria. No continuation of force, you say...no troops left behind? Maybe this is why:

http://www.inthepublicinterest.org/case/blackwater-shooting-nisoor-square

Summary
"On September 16, 2007, employees of military contractor Blackwater USA opened fire in a Baghdad traffic circle called Nisoor Square. They killed at least 14 Iraqi civilians and injured many more. This bloody incident illustrates the lack of proper oversight by the government in many military contracts and the difficulties associated with holding the companies and their employees accountable when crimes or misdeeds occur. This case also involves corruption. In November 2009, reports surfaced that shortly after the shooting, Blackwater executives attempted to buy off Iraqi government officials to ensure that their license to operate in Iraq was not revoked. There have been many other allegations of abuses and illegal activities by Blackwater. Several of these examples and links to additional information follow the description of the Nisoor Square shooting incident..."

Mercenaries...I don't think a single one of them ever saw the inside of a jail cell. Total corruption at the very pinnacle of our country. You should join Cheney now...and STFU.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Floridatexan wrote:
Looks like PeeDog is the one trying to shift the blame...for a war that was entering its 6th year by the time Obama took office.  A war that was based on lies and hung on the coattails of 9/11 mass hysteria.   No continuation of force, you say...no troops left behind?  Maybe this is why:

http://www.inthepublicinterest.org/case/blackwater-shooting-nisoor-square

Summary
"On September 16, 2007, employees of military contractor Blackwater USA opened fire in a Baghdad traffic circle called Nisoor Square. They killed at least 14 Iraqi civilians and injured many more.  This bloody incident illustrates the lack of proper oversight by the government in many military contracts and the difficulties associated with holding the companies and their employees accountable when crimes or misdeeds occur. This case also involves corruption. In November 2009, reports surfaced that shortly after the shooting, Blackwater executives attempted to buy off Iraqi government officials to ensure that their license to operate in Iraq was not revoked. There have been many other allegations of abuses and illegal activities by Blackwater.  Several of these examples and links to additional information follow the description of the Nisoor Square shooting incident..."

Mercenaries...I don't think a single one of them ever saw the inside of a jail cell.  Total corruption at the very pinnacle of our country.  You should join Cheney now...and STFU.



Were the Blackwater contractors fired upon? You make it sound as though they opened fire for no reason.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Joanimaroni wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Looks like PeeDog is the one trying to shift the blame...for a war that was entering its 6th year by the time Obama took office.  A war that was based on lies and hung on the coattails of 9/11 mass hysteria.   No continuation of force, you say...no troops left behind?  Maybe this is why:

http://www.inthepublicinterest.org/case/blackwater-shooting-nisoor-square

Summary
"On September 16, 2007, employees of military contractor Blackwater USA opened fire in a Baghdad traffic circle called Nisoor Square. They killed at least 14 Iraqi civilians and injured many more.  This bloody incident illustrates the lack of proper oversight by the government in many military contracts and the difficulties associated with holding the companies and their employees accountable when crimes or misdeeds occur. This case also involves corruption. In November 2009, reports surfaced that shortly after the shooting, Blackwater executives attempted to buy off Iraqi government officials to ensure that their license to operate in Iraq was not revoked. There have been many other allegations of abuses and illegal activities by Blackwater.  Several of these examples and links to additional information follow the description of the Nisoor Square shooting incident..."

Mercenaries...I don't think a single one of them ever saw the inside of a jail cell.  Total corruption at the very pinnacle of our country.  You should join Cheney now...and STFU.



Were the Blackwater contractors fired upon? You make it sound as though they opened fire for no reason.

It appears that's exactly what they did. Read the rest of the article.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Eight reasons why what is happening in Iraq is not W's fault Aa-Bush-Jesus-told-me-to-kill-and-torture

Guest


Guest

Floridatexan wrote:
Looks like PeeDog is the one trying to shift the blame...for a war that was entering its 6th year by the time Obama took office.  A war that was based on lies and hung on the coattails of 9/11 mass hysteria.   No continuation of force, you say...no troops left behind?  Maybe this is why:

http://www.inthepublicinterest.org/case/blackwater-shooting-nisoor-square

Summary
"On September 16, 2007, employees of military contractor Blackwater USA opened fire in a Baghdad traffic circle called Nisoor Square. They killed at least 14 Iraqi civilians and injured many more.  This bloody incident illustrates the lack of proper oversight by the government in many military contracts and the difficulties associated with holding the companies and their employees accountable when crimes or misdeeds occur. This case also involves corruption. In November 2009, reports surfaced that shortly after the shooting, Blackwater executives attempted to buy off Iraqi government officials to ensure that their license to operate in Iraq was not revoked. There have been many other allegations of abuses and illegal activities by Blackwater.  Several of these examples and links to additional information follow the description of the Nisoor Square shooting incident..."

Mercenaries...I don't think a single one of them ever saw the inside of a jail cell.  Total corruption at the very pinnacle of our country.  You should join Cheney now...and STFU.


The blame goes to the guy who refused to finish the job. I'm sorry that the shoe fits his foot like Cinderella's slipper. You could not refute one point and neither could Z.

gatorfan



Bob wrote:
Ti wrote:

bush has stayed quiet the entire Obama presidency about everything.


Bush finally found his calling in life,  keeping his mouth shut.  Too bad he didn't learn to do that before he said this in 2002.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

Or in 2000 when he said this...

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."


Or also in 2000...

"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"

Or we can fast forward to 2004...

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."


lol


They are funny but all politicians say stupid things. Kind of hard not to eventually when all you do is flap your gums all day.

Obama gaffes:

“The Bomb” that fell on Pearl Harbor
“The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries.”
10,000 People (A Whole Town!) Died in Kansas ~ Oops, Overstated by 9,988
Admits His Plan would Necessarily Cause Energy Prices to Skyrocket
Air Raiding Villages a la Yankee Air Pirates: Destroys Whole Afghan Villages!
Another Senior Moment
ATMs Cause Unemployment
Blames Hugo Chavez’s Election on (ta da) BUSH! Oops.
Blows off the Salute To Heroes (MOH) Inaugural Ball
Botched Toast ~ Babbles over “God Save The Queen”
Bowls like a Special Olympian
Bows to the Chicom President
Bows to the Emperor of Japan
Bows to the Saudi King
Burns up 9,000 gallons of Jet Fuel on Earth Day
Can’t Keep MOH Recipients Straight
Celebrates the Fifth of the Fourth
Claims to be the only President in History to Try to Eliminate Unnecessary Regulations

10. "No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." –making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)

9. "I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." -–after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)

8. "The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." –in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009

7. "What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." –in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith," which Obama quickly clarified, Sept. 7, 2008

6. "UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009

5. "I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008

4. "The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009. Obama later had to convene a "Beer Summit" at the White House to help tamp down the controversy stirred by his remark

3. "It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." –speaking at a San Francisco fundraiser about his troubles winning over some small-town, working-class voters, April 11, 2008

2. "One such translator was an American of Haitian descent, representative of the extraordinary work that our men and women in uniform do all around the world -- Navy Corpse-Man Christian Brossard." –mispronouncing "Corpsman" (the "ps" is silent) during a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast, Washington, D.C., Feb. 5, 2010 (The Corpsman's name is also Christopher, not Christian)

1. "I've now been in 57 states — I think one left to go." —at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon, May 9, 2008 (Watch video)

Guest


Guest

Waiting for the "It's the fault of Bush" post.

Sal

Sal

You ever heard of a Status of Forces Agreement, Peedawg?

Do you remember what happened in Iraq with regards to that?

Yeah, me neither.


lol

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

And your point?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Joanimaroni wrote:And your point?

There seems to be an echo in here.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


I've already posted this in the past, but it seems our right-wing brethren are now trying to rewrite history, along with their hero, Dick "the dick" Cheney.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/leadup-iraq-war-timeline

Eight reasons why what is happening in Iraq is not W's fault Bush-on-bomb_master_425x320

Once again, I thank my lucky stars that none of my children will ever sit in a classroom with a delusional psycho that needs treatment for PTSD.

Sal

Sal

Joanimaroni wrote:And your point?

What?

You need a map to connect the dots?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Floridatexan wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:And your point?

There seems to be an echo in here.

No echo, I just want to know the reason Sal posted regarding the Status of Forces Agreement.

boards of FL

boards of FL

Floridatexan wrote:http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/leadup-iraq-war-timeline


Great timeline.  I about lost it at this part...

12/31/02 New war cost estimate generated: $50-$60 billion.


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PACEDOG#1 wrote:By David Rufful on June 26, 2014 in World News

1. Despite the pleas of top U.S. generals who advised against pulling out of Iraq without leaving residual force, Obama removed U.S. troops. Why? For the same reason he does everything else: Political purposes. The root of today's Iraq chaos is based on W removing Saddam.  Under your premise, we would have to keep troops in Iraq forever-- as stupid a solution as the one that sent us in there in the first place!

2. “Obama wanted out of Iraq, and ran in 2008 with a promise to do just that. A year after the troop pullout, during a 2012 debate, Mitt Romney said he wanted a residual force to remain. Obama pointedly disagreed, saying that leaving ’10,000 troops in Iraq … would tie us down.’” -Larry Elder
Obama was right, only we should have pulled out much, much, much earlier!  Your contention is based on the impossible premise that a few hundred thousand American troops could keep the Sunnis and Shias from killing each other.  That's FUBAR!

4. Obama claimed Iraq was “self-reliant and democratic” and “a country in which people from different religious sects and ethnicities can resolve their differences peacefully through the democratic process.” Here Obama was following Cheney and Dubya's policy, and it was dead -- expensively -- dead wrong.

5. Obama left Iraq prematurely. There is a reason we still have troops in Germany and Japan. If you’re going to leave before our goals are accomplished, then we shouldn’t have invaded. The problem is, Obama has no clear diplomatic goals. His actions demonstrate in intention of establishing democracy. Wrong again -- at least you're consistent!  We didn't keep troops in Germany or Japan to police those countries, but to defend them during the Cold War.  Are you crazy enough to believe we still tell Japan or Germany what to do?

6. The intelligence communities in US, Israel, Britain, Germany, Russia, China and France all agreed that Saddam Hussein was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. Among newspaper editorials and political commentators who opposed the war, no one disputed the claim that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction because Iraq used weapons of mass destruction in their war against Iran. The truth was, Saddam was not building chemical or atomic weapons.  What we perceived before our insane, wasteful and worthless invasion, was wrong.

7. In addition to WMDs, Hussein regularly paid $25,000 to the families of Palestinians who were suicide bombers or harboring terrorists. He attempted to shoot down Royal Air Force and U.S. Air Force planes over the no-fly zones created to prevent Hussein from mass slaughtering his own citizens.    Here again, you expect the U.S. to police foreign contries when we don't like their leadership.  Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Iraq and Afghanistan prove the insanity of that type of American imperialism.

8. President Bush did not invade Iraq until he obtained a resolution from the House of Representatives, obtained a resolution from the U.S. Senate and obtained a resolution from the United Nations. Gallup found that 76% of Americans support the Iraq war, the same percentage that supported the first Persian Gulf War. This process took 15 months. Before the war began, Hussein’s WMDs were moved out of Iraq and into Syria, as reported by James Clapper of National Intelligence, Iraqi top general Georges Sada in his book “Saddam’s Secrets,” and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.  These statements avoid focusing on all the trumped up bullshit reports congress and the American people were fed by that sick, hopeless and tragic trio of Bush, Cheney and Rice -- backed up by Colin Powell who still regrets his part of the lying!

9.Had we not invaded? “…Saddam Hussein would have soon restarted his chemical and biological program — and resumed his pursuit for a nuclear capability. After the war started, Bush sent David Kay, a weapons hunter, to locate the assumed stockpiles of WMD. Kay found no stockpiles, but he did find that Saddam had the intent and the ability to restart his WMD program as soon as the heat was off.”  
This is the same kind of fucked up reasoning based on pure speculation that took us into Vietnam -- remember?  If Vietnam fell all of IndoChina would fail and we would be fighting Communists in San Francisco?  The problem is, we listen to such warmongering bastards, and send big profits to the MIC.!!




Is the current crisis in Iraq W’s fault? Clearly not. It was Bush who lied us into that fucked up war!


http://youngcons.com/8-reasons-the-bloodbath-in-iraq-is-not-ws-fault/

Now let the slander begin.......

I just refuted everyone of your inane points .... piece of cake as Herr Markle likes to say! LOL

Screw Amerika Inc!!!

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Looks like PeeDog is the one trying to shift the blame...for a war that was entering its 6th year by the time Obama took office.

Yep, just like Dick Cheney is doing by flapping his trap about it.

There is nothing on the list PaceDog posted worth refuting. Bullshit is bullshit; enough said.

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Guest


Guest

Deny deny deny

WJC would be proud.

Guest


Guest

Floridatexan wrote:
I've already posted this in the past, but it seems our right-wing brethren are now trying to rewrite history, along with their hero, Dick "the dick" Cheney.  

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/leadup-iraq-war-timeline

Eight reasons why what is happening in Iraq is not W's fault Bush-on-bomb_master_425x320

Once again, I thank my lucky stars that none of my children will ever sit in a classroom with a delusional psycho that needs treatment for PTSD.

Wow can you sign off on my VA disability claim since you're such an expert on that diagnosis? That's money in the bank if that ever happens.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Floridatexan wrote:
I've already posted this in the past, but it seems our right-wing brethren are now trying to rewrite history, along with their hero, Dick "the dick" Cheney.  

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/leadup-iraq-war-timeline

Eight reasons why what is happening in Iraq is not W's fault Bush-on-bomb_master_425x320

Once again, I thank my lucky stars that none of my children will ever sit in a classroom with a delusional psycho that needs treatment for PTSD.

Cheney is no hero. That is a good timeline. It reminds me how we were sold a complete bill of goods by the Bush administration. 2001-2009 were dark years for the United States of America.

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