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26GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 10:14 pm

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Sal wrote:Eric Cantor going down - not crazy enough.

Unbelievable. 

GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Socratestoo


You're absolutely right Herr Markle, the debate is indeed over with on this issue!

27GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 10:23 pm

Sal

Sal


The current crop hasn't been ridged enough for this radical dictator we have.

They have ended up giving in on many things. I guess you think the government can function without congress just like Obama does huh

how about we start with the debt ceiling?

although I don't have all night, I do work for a living. So the debt ceiling is a great place to start, don't you think?

Please proceed, governor. 

28GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 10:28 pm

knothead

knothead

Chrissy wrote:Eric is going down because he was giving in on amnesty.



What is ironic is that Cantor's view as well as his voting history supports some relaxation of the immigration laws, i.e., immigration reform is supported by a majority of registered Republicans according to a poll cited on Fox tonight. According to that poll 54% of registered Republicans support immigration reform. Kinda funny actually . . .

29GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 11:21 pm

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

First time in American history a House Majority Leader running for re-election has lost his party's nomination.

BUT,  many are saying it was his liberal position on an immigration bill that did it,  and what's not consistent is Lindsey Graham actually co-sponsored the same immigration bill and he just beat all his 6 or 8 opponents bad enough that he doesn't even need a runoff.

Go figure. Schizophrenic voters who knows.

30GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 11:28 pm

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

The panel on Fox News right now,  which includes Bret Baier who is not one of the partisan hacks by the way,  are all saying this happened because radio Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter and Mark Levin all campaigned against Cantor on the radio and in person at the rallies.
Score one for AM talk radio hosts.  
Maybe next we'll see Brother Carl be influencing elections.

31GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 11:31 pm

Guest


Guest

knothead wrote:
Chrissy wrote:Eric is going down because he was giving in on amnesty.



What is ironic is that Cantor's view as well as his voting history supports some relaxation of the immigration laws, i.e., immigration reform is supported by a majority of registered Republicans according to a poll cited on Fox tonight.  According to that poll 54% of registered Republicans support immigration reform.  Kinda funny actually . . .

immigration reform does not mean open the flood gates and amnesty. and if those so called republicans believe that then shit on them too.

I'd rather be in the minority and right then in the majority and stupid.

I'm not in the habit of chopping off my own head. get my drift?

32GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 11:37 pm

Guest


Guest

Bob wrote:First time in American history a House Majority Leader running for re-election has lost his party's nomination.

BUT,  many are saying it was his liberal position on an immigration bill that did it,  and what's not consistent is Lindsey Graham actually co-sponsored the same immigration bill and he just beat all his 6 or 8 opponents bad enough that he doesn't even need a runoff.

Go figure.  Schizophrenic voters who knows.

LOL

it was the amnesty thing for cantor, but I see you are falling for the trick that it wasn't. they want you to think that because they don't want to be forced to accept that they must stop their shit.

and I realize its odd, but people in different states are actually different. And I don't recall hearing Lindsey in public giving into amnesty, do you?

33GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 11:41 pm

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Chrissy wrote:

it was the amnesty thing for cantor, but I see you are falling for the trick that it wasn't. they want you to think that because they don't want to be forced to accept that they must stop their shit.

and I realize its odd, but people in different states are actually different. And I don't recall hearing Lindsey in public giving into amnesty, do you?

The way I understand it from just listening to Fox News, is Cantor and Graham had the same position on immigration. And Cantor lost big while Graham won big.

34GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 11:47 pm

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Something else inconsistent. This congressional district is in central Virginia which is not as conservative as southern virginia. I would think less conservative than South Carolina.

35GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/10/2014, 11:48 pm

knothead

knothead

Chrissy wrote:
knothead wrote:
Chrissy wrote:Eric is going down because he was giving in on amnesty.



What is ironic is that Cantor's view as well as his voting history supports some relaxation of the immigration laws, i.e., immigration reform is supported by a majority of registered Republicans according to a poll cited on Fox tonight.  According to that poll 54% of registered Republicans support immigration reform.  Kinda funny actually . . .

immigration reform does not mean open the flood gates and amnesty. and if those so called republicans believe that then shit on them too.

I'd rather be in the minority and right then in the majority and stupid.

I'm not in the habit of chopping off my own head. get my drift?


Uh Chrissy, you need to get updated on the facts. He never voted for any bill involving amnesty or 'opening the floodgates' all that is political propaganda and they fell for it. Like I said, there seems to be no room for a statesman in the GOP.

36GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 12:00 am

Guest


Guest

knothead wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
knothead wrote:
Chrissy wrote:Eric is going down because he was giving in on amnesty.



What is ironic is that Cantor's view as well as his voting history supports some relaxation of the immigration laws, i.e., immigration reform is supported by a majority of registered Republicans according to a poll cited on Fox tonight.  According to that poll 54% of registered Republicans support immigration reform.  Kinda funny actually . . .

immigration reform does not mean open the flood gates and amnesty. and if those so called republicans believe that then shit on them too.

I'd rather be in the minority and right then in the majority and stupid.

I'm not in the habit of chopping off my own head. get my drift?


Uh Chrissy, you need to get updated on the facts.  He never voted for any bill involving amnesty or 'opening the floodgates' all that is political propaganda and they fell for it.  Like I said, there seems to be no room for a statesman in the GOP.

uh no, you need to get updated on the facts, he was just talking recently about a deal with the president on immigration and those kids... we know all about those kids being brought into the country on purpose to push and scare the rinos into amnesty. which is exactly where the rinos were headed.

You know oh we got to ignore the constitution and grant all these illegals amnesty because we wont get any votes.

Im sorry, I would rather loose defending this nation for its own sake then win a election with just because of a letter by a name which means NOTHING.

This election did mean something about amnesty. It sent a message. If you don't understand that then im sorry, I cant help you.

37GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 12:06 am

Guest


Guest

Bob wrote:Something else inconsistent.  This congressional district is in central Virginia which is not as conservative as southern virginia.  I would think less conservative than South Carolina.

bob, I don't recall seeing graham talking about and hinting amnesty with all those illegals coming over recently. do you? I already said that.

I also don't think graham is in the same position as cantor. this sent a message about amnesty. now if you don't want to buy that then you stick with that message directly from the good old old party of republican rinos trying to hold onto power.

Just because one state goes one way doesn't mean another will bob. Im not sure what your even trying to do or say. its like your saying well all old class republicans didn't fall to new tea party republicans so there was no message. not so because in that district there was a message. and trust me, many republicans are getting the message. ask rubio

38GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 12:12 am

2seaoat



This election did mean something about amnesty. It sent a message. If you don't understand that then im sorry, I cant help you.

You need to start whittling....that block is still pretty thick.

Cantor lost because he is an arrogant prick who was trying to backstab his way to the speaker's position and was not taking care of business. If the immigration position of Republicans was critical, how do you explain Lindsey Gomer Graham keeping his position when he was yelling at the top of his lungs for resolution of immigration. Keep whittling because those wood chips could fire our nation's coal furnaces for a week.

39GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 1:36 am

Markle

Markle

othershoe1030 wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:I can't wait to see how the GOP reorganizes itself in light of this primary.  Will they all move further to the right thus alienating even more voters? Their choices don't look very good given public sentiment on many issues nation wide.

Brat is an economics professor.



Can you clarify what you mean by moving further to the right?

I take that comment to mean what you really want is what I said earlier, a bunch of (R)'s who vote exactly like the (D)'s. You know a hidden one party system.

and if the (R)'s don't vote with the (D)'s on every little socialistic thing then they are far far right wing nut Nazi's. right?

How long has it been since the R's voted with the D's on anything?


What would be nice to see in DC would be two parties that have the best interest of the country and its people in mind over the best interests of their individual parties. Sure they can have different views on how to accomplish various things like improving our infrastructure or education system but they must remember how to compromise in order to progress.

The current crop of R's is so ridged they keep shooting themselves in the foot, cutting off their noses to spite their faces and as a result we have, as has been pointed out previously, the least productive congress in our nation's history.

Congress has become basically dysfunctional.

I would say that at least in part 'moving further to the right' means continuing to act as if government is somehow the enemy, that it can do nothing well or right. Of course they take the military out of that equation but never mind that.

How long has it been since the D's voted with the R's on anything?

40GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 1:38 am

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:
Chrissy wrote:

it was the amnesty thing for cantor, but I see you are falling for the trick that it wasn't. they want you to think that because they don't want to be forced to accept that they must stop their shit.

and I realize its odd, but people in different states are actually different. And I don't recall hearing Lindsey in public giving into amnesty, do you?

The way I understand it from just listening to Fox News,  is Cantor and Graham had the same position on immigration.  And Cantor lost big while Graham won big.

Graham took the threat seriously and early. Cantor did not.

41GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 6:31 am

Guest


Guest

I will give cantor credit for one bit of honesty. During the healthcare debate when obama pretended to involve pubs at that round table meeting... he cornered obama about ins being lost, drs being lost, and premiums rising... which obama somewhat acknowledged... but the public did not. Unfortunately cantor left that move exposed and didn't drive home the point that we were being lied to straight to our faces. To me that meant he was more concerned with his political ambitions than the people he swore to represent... just another govt shill pretending to protect we the people.

42GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 7:17 am

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Chrissy wrote:
2seaoat wrote:More and more real republicans are telling the new Rino crazies to pound sand.....the tea Party and the compulsion to be stupid is two election cycles away from extinction.   A few traditional Republicans will take crazy on and just like the short burst of McCarthyism which perverted our national politics, this sad era will soon be in the rear view mirror, with Pace, Mr. Markle, Chrissy, and PK up chit crick without a paddle.

dream on commie man.

We are going to send a message to those American people hating blood suckers in the whitehouse. And that message is we are not going to tolerate the destruction of our country and its constitution.

We expect to be represented.

The borders must be closed and legal immigration protected.
Our debt must be controlled, not ignored into oblivion
This is NOT a welfare state
This is NOT a police state
This is NOT a country where the GOV picks winners and losers in industry


Oh I could go on. But that's enough. I'm sure you disagree with everyone of those things I mention. So suck ass.


" . . . so suck ass." With that kind of mind-frame, it's clear we need to listen close to all the intellectual fare this dignified lady has to offer. LOL!

43GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 7:18 am

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:I will give cantor credit for one bit of honesty. During the healthcare debate when obama pretended to involve pubs at that round table meeting... he cornered obama about ins being lost, drs being lost, and premiums rising... which obama somewhat acknowledged... but the public did not. Unfortunately cantor left that move exposed and didn't drive home the point that we were being lied to straight to our faces. To me that meant he was more concerned with his political ambitions than the people he swore to represent... just another govt shill pretending to protect we the people.

Golly, it now appears that you and I are on the same path -- totally opposed to Amerika Inc. Right? Welcome aboard!

44GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 7:24 am

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:I can't wait to see how the GOP reorganizes itself in light of this primary.  Will they all move further to the right thus alienating even more voters? Their choices don't look very good given public sentiment on many issues nation wide.

Brat is an economics professor.



Can you clarify what you mean by moving further to the right?

I take that comment to mean what you really want is what I said earlier, a bunch of (R)'s who vote exactly like the (D)'s. You know a hidden one party system.

and if the (R)'s don't vote with the (D)'s on every little socialistic thing then they are far far right wing nut Nazi's. right?

How long has it been since the R's voted with the D's on anything?


What would be nice to see in DC would be two parties that have the best interest of the country and its people in mind over the best interests of their individual parties. Sure they can have different views on how to accomplish various things like improving our infrastructure or education system but they must remember how to compromise in order to progress.

The current crop of R's is so ridged they keep shooting themselves in the foot, cutting off their noses to spite their faces and as a result we have, as has been pointed out previously, the least productive congress in our nation's history.

Congress has become basically dysfunctional.

I would say that at least in part 'moving further to the right' means continuing to act as if government is somehow the enemy, that it can do nothing well or right. Of course they take the military out of that equation but never mind that.

How long has it been since the D's voted with the R's on anything?



How long has it been since the R's put up a bill that was good for the whole country? Why would a democrat vote for anything the party of "No" wants to shove down his or her throat?

Herr Markle, you just don't get it. We don't have a two party system anymore. Both sides are whores to the MIC and corporate greed. The republicans who have come to the same conclusion call themselves T-Partiers. It appears that you know I'm right, but you don't know how to counter what's happening.

Welcome aboard. Screw Amerika Inc.!!

45GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 7:41 am

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I will give cantor credit for one bit of honesty. During the healthcare debate when obama pretended to involve pubs at that round table meeting... he cornered obama about ins being lost, drs being lost, and premiums rising... which obama somewhat acknowledged... but the public did not. Unfortunately cantor left that move exposed and didn't drive home the point that we were being lied to straight to our faces. To me that meant he was more concerned with his political ambitions than the people he swore to represent... just another govt shill pretending to protect we the people.

Golly, it now appears that you and I are on the same path -- totally opposed to Amerika Inc. Right? Welcome aboard!

There's alot of dispersions that can and are thrown my way... but a lack of consistency and conviction has not been one.

I don't allow an ideology to color or influence the results I see... or the means/policies by which we arrived there.

That may strike the same chord between us on occasion... but the divide between statism and liberty is too wide.

46GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 8:25 am

Sal

Sal

The end result is that the GOP is guaranteed to do much worse with Asians and Latinos in 2016 than they did in 2008 or 2012, because it is now clear that it's insufficient to do absolutely nothing about immigration reform, but their candidates must spend all day screaming hysterically about the brown hordes streaming across our border.

The Republican party is now cloistered in deeply racist gerrymandered districts.

We should go in with flamethrowers and exterminate them like the vermin they are.

47GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 8:46 am

Guest


Guest

How very tolerant and enlightened of you. Kill those that oppose illegal activities with which you endorse.

Shall we simply do away with borders all together? You'll find a great deal of support for that from soros and the un.

48GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 8:56 am

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

The Republican party is now cloistered in deeply racist gerrymandered districts.

That is the problem that is exaggerating, magnifying and exacerbating the influence of the extreme elements in the current GOP. Feeling safe in their artificially created safe districts not only allows but necessitates that the reps from those districts take increasingly extreme positions in order to avoid what just happened to Cantor.

This leaves no room for competing positions, moderation, reasonableness much less cooperation between the two parties. This trend will continue until the party becomes pure enough to please the most ultra unreasonable among them and then, hopefully it will shrivel and die out.

49GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 10:48 am

Guest


Guest

Democratic politics are by nature meant to be contentious... the idea being that somewhere in the middle is just.

Either extreme should be rejected out of hand... but our reality is that statism is winning the battle and liberty is losing.

See: nsa, irs, epa, gunrunning, patriot act, ndaa, media supeonas, bombing sovereign nations, domestic drones... etc.

50GOP - Party of Lunatics - Page 2 Empty Re: GOP - Party of Lunatics 6/11/2014, 11:08 am

Guest


Guest

PkrBum wrote:How very tolerant and enlightened of you. Kill those that oppose illegal activities with which you endorse.

Shall we simply do away with borders all together? You'll find a great deal of support for that from soros and the un.

They won't answer that question it doesn't fit into Thier vote getting scheme

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