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Jeff Miller Representing the Panhandle Well

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Sal

Sal

Cars didn't cause the dinosaurs to go extinct.

Wow .....

lmao

MSNBC host Richard Lui had asked Miller if he thought messaging against man-made climate change would be detrimental to Republicans' 2014 and 2016 election prospects. Lui cited a poll of Florida voters who said that on the issue of climate change they trusted scientists over Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), who does not believe human activity contributes to global warming, by a margin of 56 to 33 percent.

"Well, I think anybody would answer a poll and say that they believe the scientists, but you have to understand that it is not settled science," Miller said. "The issue of climate change has been happening for a long time, and for us to be able to think that we, as matter of fact, can change what's going on right now to any substantive measure is really kind of foolish in my opinion."

"So you agree that it is changing?" Lui asked.

"I've never said that it wasn't changing," Miller responded.

"To a deleterious effect?" Lui asked.

"It changes. It gets hot, it gets cold, it's done it for as long as we've measured the climate," Miller said.

"But, manmade, isn't that the question?" Lui pressed.

"Then why did the dinosaurs go extinct? Were there men that were causing -- were there cars running around at that point that were causing global warming? No," Miller concluded. "The climate has changed since Earth was created."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jeff-miller-human-activity-climate-change-foolish

That's some high-octane, powerful stupid on display right there.

Be proud, Pcolans.

It's not called the armpit of America for nothin'.

Guest


Guest

Here you go again talking about shit you know nothing about.

cars didn't cause the dinosaurs to go extinct. And guess what, man didn't cause all the weather fluctuations on this planet.

Guest


Guest

Exactly .... Sal give it a rest loser

Guest


Guest

The globe has been warming generally since the last glacial maximum about 10k years ago... with a few pauses and even drops such as the little ice age a few hundred years ago. We're very fortunate as a species to exist in such a warming trend.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

We need more CO2 so our gardens will grow and trees will grow big and make more oxygen..just another cycle in nature...

Sal

Sal

Like I said, he represents you well.

lmao

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Compared to volcanoes and forest fires man is just a fart in the wind...but if you really want to stop the insanity stop jet planes and ocean liners they make cars look like ant bites compared to a grizzly attack.

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Guest

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum

PETM is probably the only example within the Cenozoic Era (approximately the last 65 million years) wherein a mass of carbon comparable to projected anthropogenic emissions (>2000 Gt or Pg) rapidly entered these reservoirs. The source of the CO 2 , and whether it was oxidized CH 4 , remain open issues; nonetheless, abundant evidence indicates nearly coeval changes in global warming and global carbon cycling, strongly suggesting a link between the two.

Numerous other changes can be observed in stratigraphic sections containing the PETM. [5]

Fossil records for many organisms show major turnovers. For example, in the marine realm, a mass extinction of benthic foraminifera, a global expansion of subtropical dinoflagellates, and an appearance of excursion planktic foraminifera and calcareous nannofossils all occurred during the beginning stages of PETM. On land, there was a sudden appearance of modern mammal orders (including primates) in Europe and North America. Sediment deposition changed significantly at many outcrops and in many drill cores spanning this time interval.

Although now widely accepted that the PETM represents a “case study” for global warming and massive carbon input to Earth’s surface, the cause, details and overall significance of the event remain perplexing.

Life [edit]

The PETM is accompanied by a mass extinction of 35-50% of benthic foraminifera (especially in deeper waters) over the course of ~1,000 years – the group suffering more than during the dinosaur-slaying K-T extinction. Contrarily, planktonic foraminifera diversified, and dinoflagellates bloomed. Success was also enjoyed by the mammals, who radiated extensively around this time.

The deep-sea extinctions are difficult to explain, as many were regional in extent. General hypotheses such as a temperature-related reduction in oxygen availability, or increased corrosion due to carbonate undersaturated deep waters, are insufficient as explanations. The only factor global in extent was an increase in temperature. Regional extinctions in the North Atlantic can be attributed to increased deep-sea anoxia, which could be due to the slowdown of overturning ocean currents, [18] or the release and rapid oxidation of large amounts of methane.

In shallower waters, it's undeniable that increased CO 2 levels result in a decreased oceanic pH, which has a profound negative effect on corals. [27] Experiments suggest it is also very harmful to calcifying plankton. [28] However, the strong acids used to simulate the natural increase in acidity which would result from elevated CO 2 concentrations may have given misleading results, and the most recent evidence is that coccolithophores (E. huxleyi at least) become more, not less, calcified and abundant in acidic waters. [29] Interestingly, no change in the distribution of calcareous nanoplankton such as the coccolithophores can be attributed to acidification during the PETM. [29] Acidification did lead to an abundance of heavily calcified algae [30] and weakly calcified forams. [31]

The increase in mammalian abundance is intriguing. There is no evidence of any increased extinction rate among the terrestrial biota. Increased CO 2 levels may have promoted dwarfing [32][33] – which may have encouraged speciation. Many major mammalian orders –including the Artiodactyla, horses, and primates – appeared and spread across the globe 13,000 to 22,000 years after the initiation of the PETM. [32]

Orbital forcing [edit]

The presence of later (smaller) warming events of a global scale, such as the Elmo horizon (aka ETM2), has led to the hypothesis that the events repeat on a regular basis, driven by maxima in the 400,000 and 100,000 year eccentricity cycles in the Earth's orbit. The current warming period is believed to last another 50,000 years due to a minimum in the eccentricity of the Earth's orbit. Orbital increase in insolation (and thus temperature) would force the system over a threshold and unleash positive feedbacks.

Recovery [edit]

The δ 13 C record records a duration of around 120,000 [22] to 170,000 [1][53] years, slightly faster than the residence time of carbon in the modern atmosphere (100,000 to 200,000 years). A feedback system [54] would explain this slightly more rapid recovery time.

The most likely method of recovery involves an increase in biological productivity, transporting carbon to the deep ocean. This would be assisted by higher global temperatures and CO 2 levels, as well as an increased nutrient supply (which would result from higher continental weathering due to higher temperatures and rainfall; volcanics may have provided further nutrients). Evidence for higher biological productivity comes in the form of bio-concentrated barium. [54] However, this proxy may instead reflect the addition of barium dissolved in methane. [55] Diversifications suggest that productivity increased in near-shore environments, which would have been warm and fertilized by run-off, outweighing the reduction in productivity in the deep oceans.

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Sal wrote:Like I said, he represents you well.

lmao

He must represent smart people then

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

You have to understand the politics of the western panhandle to even begin to get a handle on it all,  Sal.

This congressional district has six military installations which are the backbone of the panhandle economy.  
A congressman,  any congressman for the 1st District, has one main job description.  And that is to get seniority on key military appropriations committees to have clout with how the DOD money is spent in this district.  AND to have clout to be able to influence BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) decisions.

As long as any congressman gains that seniority,  and it now happens almost automatically,  that congressman keeps his office.  It doesn't matter how dumb or smart he is or how crooked or honest he is.  At least to a point because one of the current congressman's predecessors (a democrat) got caught red-handed with the his hands in the till and that did him in.  But that one's name was He-Coon so that should give you a clue.  
But, the point is, all any 1st District congressman has to do is keep his nose relatively clean and once he scores the cushy job he has it for as long as he desires.  He really has no other job description and no other responsibilities. And he will never lose an election because the panhandle movers and shakers are scared shitless of replacing him with any freshman who has not yet gained the required seniority in Congress.

Miller got the job because his immediate predecessor,  Joe Scarborough,  resigned in mid-term to become a tv star.  And by that point,  no democrat challenger could win in the panhandle since the panhandle has now made the complete transition from yellow dog democrat to yellow dog republican.

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