NBC correspondent can't name a single nation we have better relations with now than before Obama became POTUS

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many places in africa

Chrissy wrote:many places in africa

Are we to include Somalia, Yemen and Nigeria among those "many places in Africa" where Mr. Obama has secured better relationships for us?

You and Pacedog must read the same papers and watch the same FOX News for your political outlooks. Neither one of you could find your asses in the dark with both hands.

The truth is, America's foreign policies over the last five decades have been designed to bring us hegemony over all other nations. The driving force behind these domineering policies, is our insatiable hunger for resources. We're continually threatening other nations with our super-military power; acting no differently than an armed street thug. This sort of imperialistic crapola reached its zenith under Dubya and Darth Cheney, and until the last few months, the same threatening posture has been promulgated by Obama.

Let's face it: Amerika Inc. isn't just a loose cannon. It's an insane loose cannon. And you wonder why other nations don't like us?

Screw Amerika Inc.!!

Wordslinger wrote:

Chrissy wrote:many places in africa

Are we to include Somalia, Yemen and Nigeria among those "many places in Africa" where Mr. Obama has secured better relationships for us?

You and Pacedog must read the same papers and watch the same FOX News for your political outlooks.  Neither one of you could find your asses in the dark with both hands.

You can't think of anyplace either. Not surprising!

Same with Hillary Clinton, no one can think of any accomplishment she made during her term as Secretary of State. Other than logging the most miles.

Wordslinger wrote:

Chrissy wrote:many places in africa

Are we to include Somalia, Yemen and Nigeria among those "many places in Africa" where Mr. Obama has secured better relationships for us?

You and Pacedog must read the same papers and watch the same FOX News for your political outlooks. Neither one of you could find your asses in the dark with both hands.

Motard.....Yemen isn't in Africa. Contrary to popular belief, while you read about such places, some of us have actually BEEN THERE.

I'd say we've made very close ties with the muslim brotherhood... though they don't control a country right now.

The legitimacy provided by that endorsement will prop them up in some sovereign nation before long... I'm sure.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/im-really-gonna-miss-systematically-destroying-thi,11435/

I'm Really Gonna Miss Systematically Destroying This Place
COMMENTARY • Politics • Opinion • George W. Bush • ISSUE 44•49 • Dec 1, 2008
By George W. Bush



Oh, America. Eight years went by so fast, didn't they? I feel like I hardly got to know you and methodically undermine everything you once stood for. But I guess all good things must come to an end, and even though you know I would love to stick around for another year or four—maybe privatize Social Security or get us into Iran—I'm afraid it's time to go. But before I leave, let me say, from the bottom of my heart: I can't think of another country I would've rather led to the brink of collapse.

Boy, oh boy, if these Oval Office walls could talk. Seems like it was only yesterday that I started my first term despite having actually lost to Al Gore by more than a half million votes. Hmm. We were all so young and peaceful then. Gosh, gas was still under $2 a gallon! On my watch it peaked at more than twice that. Never getting it up to $6 or ideally $7.50 will be one of my few regrets when I leave office.

It's just gonna be so hard packing up my things and heading off into the sunset come January. I wish I could go on forever giving massive and disastrous tax cuts to the wealthy, taking the country from a surplus to a deficit—nearly $500 billion this year, likely to pass $1 trillion next year, fingers crossed—and just generally doing irreparable damage to the very underpinnings of our economy, but, well, I'm afraid the Constitution says I can't. And not even I can overrule the Constitution. Though Lord knows I tried! Initiating blanket wiretaps without warrants, suspending habeas corpus for prisoners in Guantanamo, infiltrating an unknown number of nonviolent civilian antiwar groups without permission… such wonderful memories. I'm going to cherish them forever.

My fellow Americans, I only hope that every time you have your civil liberties encroached upon by the Patriot Act, you'll think of me.

Everywhere I look brings back memories. The Blue Room is where Laura and I put up our first White House Christmas tree. Down the hall, in the East Room, is where I concocted my favorite signing statement to circumvent the anti-torture guidelines of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, and—ooh!—right across the way is where Cheney and I decided to use the death of 3,000 Americans on 9/11 and the nation's subsequent fear of another attack as an excuse to carry out our long-standing plan to invade Iraq. I should really get a picture before I leave.

Speaking of pictures, whenever I look at the dusty old newspaper photos of those tortured prisoners at Abu Ghraib or the crumpled ruins of that bridge in Minnesota, I can hold my head up high knowing that I truly fucked this nation—physically and symbolically—beyond repair. I only wish I had the time to destroy a couple more major American cities.

And Cheney, I almost forgot about Cheney. What a guy, huh? I can't believe that in a few short weeks he's never going to talk to me again. The stories I could tell you about what went on in some of those back rooms—well, you wouldn't believe me if I declassified the memos. I don't know, maybe in 20 years, when the economy has rebounded and the people displaced by Katrina have rebuilt their lives from scratch with almost no federal assistance, Cheney and I can meet up again in the Rose Garden and reminisce over the good old days, when it seemed like there was no part of this great country we couldn't ruin forever.

What am I going to do once I'm no longer president? I've gotten so used to waking up every day, playing fetch with the dogs on the White House lawn, and then spending a lazy afternoon shredding every last bit of our good will abroad in a mind-boggling display of diplomatic incompetence.

The worst part about leaving is knowing I can never screw up anything this big again. Don't get me wrong, I'm only 62. I could still bankrupt an oil company, or become the next MLB commissioner and ruin baseball. But I'll never get the opportunity to fuck up on this massive of a scale again. Even if you put me back in charge for another term, I could only take the U.S. from a rapidly declining world power to not a world power at all. I don't mean to gloat, but I think it's safe to say that no one can ever unseat the American empire like I unseated the American empire.

Still, I have to admit, sometimes I think I could've dismantled so much more. The very fact that the environment still exists, that a mere 4,000 troops have died in Iraq, that there is still the slightest glimmer of hope for the future left in this nation—it's easy to feel like maybe I didn't do my job. But no, no, there's no use having any regret. I fucked everything up the best I could and that's good enough for me.

You know, I've got a few weeks left. I could still illegally fire some U.S. attorneys for political reasons, or finally get rid of that pesky separation between church and state. Or maybe I could just bomb a place. Like Russia. But this time, I would really savor it.

As long as I live, America, I'll never forget irreparably ruining you. Unless we all die in a nuclear war or calamitous environmental disaster brought on by my neglect. Either way, I'll see you all in heaven!

Hey, you do know BUSH isn't the POTUS, right?

I also know what happened to our status in the world community.

But it's criminal to paint Obama like the Joker while you post Bush with a Nazi symbol? Hypocrite.

ENGEL: Even our allies –yeah. And I think the reason is our allies have become confused. For eight years you had the Bush administration with a very interventionist policy, driving into world affairs, driving primarily into the Islamic world army first, or fist first. And that was very unpopular with many of our allies. But toward the end, after 8 years, people adjusted to it. Now you have a presidency that for the last six years is pulling out very rapidly. And that is creating a kind of pump action, a vortex of instability that has left allies like Saudi Arabia, like Egypt, like even some European countries very confused. Are we going in? Are we pulling out? Are we leading? Are we trying to set the agenda? That has been a lot of frustration. So in terms of the foreign policy objectives laid out in West Point, yes, he talked about ending these two unpopular wars. But I do sympathize with some of the things said in the Wall Street Journal. Right now we have a black hole in Syria. Iraq is in a state of collapse. Libya is about to go back into a civil war. And this was the one case where we intervened militarily. So I think there is a lot of problems on the horizon in the foreign policy world just because you are off-ramping in Afghanistan.


Engel is very good and knowledgeable. I think he has nailed it. The difference I have is some people do not understand what he was saying. We went from a hated policy to an intelligent policy. In that process there is indecision, but the beautiful thing about what he said.....Iraq, Libya and Syria our clear adversary nations for decades are no longer relevant and have been taken out at the knees.......and do you think this is by accident? Engel is the best journalist on Foreign affairs on any network. If you read the quote, some people will get it and some will not......we have seen the folks here who have not got it.

And your statement addresses exactly what Seabass?