The real truth about the disgraceful care of our vets!

Sal wrote:As a nation, we are bipolar in regards to veteran's healthcare. 


We are unanimous in agreement that vets hurt in the line of duty should receive free treatment for those injuries, but we don't want to pay for universal healthcare for all vets. 


So, we have a system that must adjudicate whether or not each individual vet qualifies for treatment.


This causes delays. 


Universal healthcare for everyone, be they vets or not, makes this problem go away. 

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Sal eff u and your politicization of Memorial Day in regard to Obamacare. Vets deserve the Congressional plan if not more.

Sal wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Sal eff u and your politicization of Memorial Day in regard to Obamacare. Vets deserve the Congressional plan if not more.

You're not very bright, are you?

Show me where I said anything about Obamacare?

Must be tough being a soldier when you can't even correctly identify the enemy.

Wordslinger wrote:The sad truth is, unlike Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and the dozens of other major military industrialists, our vets really have no lobbying power.

Just like the rest of us common folk.

So guess whose wheels get the grease!

As for those in that wonderful Washington DC feeding trough called "congress," none of them apparently give two shits for our GIs after they've been used.

If our government was peopled by characters who actually gave a damn about our men and women in uniform, would they have wasted their lives, limbs, and zillions of our bucks on misbegotten, wasteful, losing efforts in Vietnam, Panama, Greneda, Somalia, Beirut, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now in almost every poor country in Africa?

Of course our Presidents and congresses don't give a shit for all the uniformed victims of their insane, misdirected political power exercises. What kind of rational leaders would have engaged our "volunteer" military troops in wars we have had absolutely zero intention of ever winning?

Our government used to work hard at winning foreign wars.  

No longer. Now the game is to keep those expenses going as long as possible, and who gives a shit for those demented kids who join up believing they will actually be risking their lives and limbs to defend America's freedom?

The answer, unfortunately is: nobody in Washington DC.

Having served during the Korean "Peace Action," and having lived in this country longer than most, I'll be frank: I love Americans -- in service or out. But I absolutely loath our fucked-up, dysfunctional and wholly corporate-owned government -- and I'd be happy if every one of our elected representatives and senators had terminal chest pains the rest of the summer.

Screw Amerika Inc!!!

Sal wrote:As a nation, we are bipolar in regards to veteran's healthcare. 


We are unanimous in agreement that vets hurt in the line of duty should receive free treatment for those injuries, but we don't want to pay for universal healthcare for all vets. 


So, we have a system that must adjudicate whether or not each individual vet qualifies for treatment.


This causes delays. 


Universal healthcare for everyone, be they vets or not, makes this problem go away. 

Markle wrote:

UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, the ultimate goal of ObamaCare, is what CAUSED this problem and has for many, many decades.  NO accountability, NO inventive, NO responsibility and plenty of MONEY to spread around.

VA sets the standard for the efficiency of anything run by the government.  Post Office, Amtrak, what more do you need?

You, along with your Socialist/Communist buds like Bernie Sanders and Wordslinger all pitch the same FAILED SYSTEM.

Please explain, if you or any of the other Progressives here, why you want a proven failed system for our country?

2seaoat wrote:The Post Office and the VA health care system works pretty damn good, and both certainly can be improved, but that starts with the proposition that their function is useful and that government can work efficiently.  I believe that few private companies could accomplish what the Post office does and save money.  They would cherry pick and take the profitable routes and leave rural America in the dumpster.  We live in a great country.   We actually have pretty good Government employees doing their best, but often we need to constantly reevaluate.  On Veterans Day we can only hope that improvements will be a constant.

Sal wrote:

Markle wrote:

UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, the ultimate goal of ObamaCare, is what CAUSED this problem and has for many, many decades.  NO accountability, NO inventive, NO responsibility and plenty of MONEY to spread around.

VA sets the standard for the efficiency of anything run by the government.  Post Office, Amtrak, what more do you need?

You, along with your Socialist/Communist buds like Bernie Sanders and Wordslinger all pitch the same FAILED SYSTEM.

Please explain, if you or any of the other Progressives here, why you want a proven failed system for our country?

The problem with the VA is access, not quality of care, dumbass. 

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The sad truth is, unlike Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and the dozens of other major military industrialists, our vets really have no lobbying power.

Just like the rest of us common folk.

So guess whose wheels get the grease!

As for those in that wonderful Washington DC feeding trough called "congress," none of them apparently give two shits for our GIs after they've been used.

If our government was peopled by characters who actually gave a damn about our men and women in uniform, would they have wasted their lives, limbs, and zillions of our bucks on misbegotten, wasteful, losing efforts in Vietnam, Panama, Greneda, Somalia, Beirut, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now in almost every poor country in Africa?

Of course our Presidents and congresses don't give a shit for all the uniformed victims of their insane, misdirected political power exercises. What kind of rational leaders would have engaged our "volunteer" military troops in wars we have had absolutely zero intention of ever winning?

Our government used to work hard at winning foreign wars.  

No longer. Now the game is to keep those expenses going as long as possible, and who gives a shit for those demented kids who join up believing they will actually be risking their lives and limbs to defend America's freedom?

The answer, unfortunately is: nobody in Washington DC.

Having served during the Korean "Peace Action," and having lived in this country longer than most, I'll be frank: I love Americans -- in service or out. But I absolutely loath our fucked-up, dysfunctional and wholly corporate-owned government -- and I'd be happy if every one of our elected representatives and senators had terminal chest pains the rest of the summer.

Screw Amerika Inc!!!

Now you're just making it way to easy.

Here's your beloved logo too!  ENJOY!

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The sad truth is, unlike Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and the dozens of other major military industrialists, our vets really have no lobbying power.

Just like the rest of us common folk.

So guess whose wheels get the grease!

As for those in that wonderful Washington DC feeding trough called "congress," none of them apparently give two shits for our GIs after they've been used.

If our government was peopled by characters who actually gave a damn about our men and women in uniform, would they have wasted their lives, limbs, and zillions of our bucks on misbegotten, wasteful, losing efforts in Vietnam, Panama, Greneda, Somalia, Beirut, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now in almost every poor country in Africa?

Of course our Presidents and congresses don't give a shit for all the uniformed victims of their insane, misdirected political power exercises. What kind of rational leaders would have engaged our "volunteer" military troops in wars we have had absolutely zero intention of ever winning?

Our government used to work hard at winning foreign wars.  

No longer. Now the game is to keep those expenses going as long as possible, and who gives a shit for those demented kids who join up believing they will actually be risking their lives and limbs to defend America's freedom?

The answer, unfortunately is: nobody in Washington DC.

Having served during the Korean "Peace Action," and having lived in this country longer than most, I'll be frank: I love Americans -- in service or out. But I absolutely loath our fucked-up, dysfunctional and wholly corporate-owned government -- and I'd be happy if every one of our elected representatives and senators had terminal chest pains the rest of the summer.

Screw Amerika Inc!!!

Now you're just making it way to easy.

Here's your beloved logo too!  ENJOY!

Listen sweetheart, you only score when the crowd thinks you scored.  Digging up your Nazi slop from your immense Nazi regalia file isn't working anymore.  Everyone knows I'm a socialist.

And you're a real Nazi.

Sal wrote:As a nation, we are bipolar in regards to veteran's healthcare. 


We are unanimous in agreement that vets hurt in the line of duty should receive free treatment for those injuries, but we don't want to pay for universal healthcare for all vets. 


So, we have a system that must adjudicate whether or not each individual vet qualifies for treatment.


This causes delays. 

Universal healthcare for everyone, be they vets or not, makes this problem go away. 

2seaoat wrote:The babyboomers got theirs........they cut their own taxes and let chit go to hell in a handbasket as they bought big houses, fancy cars, and spent this country into big time debt as we fought two wars and never paid for the same.......so if a generation will ever need to exit.....it is the selfish babyboomers.   The younger people got the short end of the stick, but good things are coming, and our country continues to grow strong as our balance of trade is going to be the best in the next five years than the last thirty.......we have become the new Saudi energy producer, and the best part Markle and you will be joining me in the not too near future..........and that twenty something kid is going to get his turn........our country is strong.....it is just one big hissy fit you and Markle are having realizing your relevancy and importance in this world is fading to the status of old and irrelevant.....so the reaction you both have is normal psychology.....attack reality, and pretend that Mayberry ever existed.........fade to grey.