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Happy memorial Day..Old Veterans should be shot in the head...

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Even more chilling was a warning sent out to VA employees at the facility which, according to the whistleblower, was meant to get across the message, “Do you see what happens to the people that try to get things straight around here, they’re not here anymore,” a tone the whistleblower described as “pretty telling.”

The employee also revealed the shocking attitude of one supervisor at the hospital towards older veterans, who asserted that older vets “should be taken outside and shot in the head because they’re worthless.” The individual still works at the hospital and was not disciplined for his comments.

“How can you stop the corruption and the insanity if you have a supervisor who is a non-veteran saying these things to veterans, scaring them about their jobs and telling them because they’re an older veteran ‘you ought to be taken outside and shot in the head’,” asked the employee.



Just as it was VA employees who allegedly cooked the books in Phoenix, it was VA employees who blew the whistle.

Once again, whistleblowers have demonstrated their importance in keeping Uncle Sam honest. But does he deal honestly with them?

The Office of Special Counsel, which works with whistleblowers across the government, has 63 open cases involving VA health, safety, or scheduling violations. That’s a lot even for a big agency like the VA.

Are so many employees turning to OSC because they fear retaliation if they make those reports to the VA? It’s a question worth asking given the actions of two non-governmental groups.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) has denounced “the culture of fear that has plagued the agency and negatively impacted veterans’ care.”

AFGE President J. David Cox Sr., who was a VA nurse, issued a statement saying “our members have paid a heavy price for voicing concerns, submitting letters, raising issues in labor management meetings, and testifying before Congress on wait time issues and veterans’ access to care. When they have sounded the alarm our members faced retaliation and intimidation. No one should have to choose between keeping their job and speaking out about threats to patient care. It is time for the VA to take swift action to end this culture of fear and cover-ups.”

Just before the hearing began, the Project on Government Oversight (POGO) and the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America announced a Web site designed to help employees who want to anonymously report fraud, mismanagement and abuse and “help bring accountability to the Department of Veterans Affairs.”

The Web site provides a form where employees can explain their allegations. In bold caps, the site warns: “FOR YOUR PROTECTION, DO NOT USE A GOVERNMENT OR CONTRACTOR PHONE, FAX, OR COMPUTER TO CONTACT POGO.”

Like cancer warnings on a pack of smokes, POGO makes the danger of management retaliation against federal whistleblowers plain: “we usually do not recommend coming forward publicly and exposing yourself to the many risks associated with doing so.”

Shinseki said “veterans deserve to have full faith in their VA.”

So do VA employees.


This is entirely on President Obama. This is his administrations screw up. He has been hitting the TV telling the American Public that he wants more for our veterans. I believe he is sincere. However, good government does not allow vets to die waiting for care. He needs to fix this and put in place safeguards that do not allow ANY veteran to be neglected or maltreated. He needs to own this and fix it.



The obama administration is very hostile to whistleblowers. That is what they are really upset about. Look at the things uncovered and the actions taken by the govt. Fast and furious, AP supeonas, NSA data collection, IRS targeting... etc.

We don't see actions taken to hold govt accountable and solutions to end overreach... we see obstruction and obfuscation.


We will see if these problems will be addressed and fixed. It really is pretty straight forward and these problems should never have been problems.



2seaoat wrote:We will see if these problems will be addressed and fixed. It really is pretty straight forward and these problems should never have been problems.

Couldn't you say that about gunrunning, media spying, irs targeting, benghazi, citizen data collection... etc?

Whether you even think these are all valid concerns... a straight forward and open process would've fixed them.

Hell... we've even had flat lies told to congress about several of those. Yea team..!!



My husband is at the JOCC now. I have visited that facility many times, and Biloxi, both with him and with friends.

Sorry...let me just pause here to remember those friends who have already left us. That is the spirit of the upcoming...remembrance...I have a hard time calling it a holiday. We will celebrate at our house with friends on Sunday.


The President is speaking now...he "will not tolerate" abuses at Phoenix or any other VA faciility. Investigations will be ongoing at all VA facilities.



NOVEMBER 1, 2012

Overall, Obama Has Done More For Veterans Than Any President In the Past 30 Years.

Republicans and conservatives have spent 4 years spreading the lie that President Obama hasn’t done anything for veterans. They have repeated it 100x per day for all 4 years and spent millions promoting their lies. The thing about records is that they are recorded. So let’s set the record straight.

Quick Overview:

Initiated a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses. ref, ref

Improved benefits for veterans. ref, ref, ref, ref

Interagency Task Force on Veterans Small Business Development . ref

Worked to clear the backlog of veterans claims and streamline benefits to those who served. ref

Provided for the expenses of families of to be at Dover AFB when fallen soldiers arrive.ref

Donated 250K of Nobel prize money to Fisher House. ref

Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act of 2009. ref

Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2009. ref

Medal of Honor Commemorative Coin Act of 2009. ref

Promoted a bill to award a Congressional Gold Medal to the Women Airforce Service Pilots (“WASP”). ref

Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information. ref , ref, ref , ref

Military Spouses Residency Relief Act. ref

Improved basic housing allowance for military personnel. ref

Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010. ref

Provided minimum essential health care coverage by Veteran’s Affairs. ref

Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans. ref

Korean War Veterans Recognition Act. ref

Blinded Veterans Association. ref

Major Charles R. Soltes, Jr., O.D. Department of Veterans Affairs Blind Rehabilitation Center. ref

Improved access for Veterans to receive PTSD treatment. ref

Green Vet Initiative to promote environmental jobs for veterans. ref




Cooking the books on the waiting lists is an egregious offense, and heads will rightfully roll.

The underlying problem, however, is that the chickenhawks of the GOP have overwhelmed the system with bodies, while simultaneously underfunding it.


All that is true, but when the President is continually attacked for non problems there is almost an instinctual reaction to any attack on the President as being BS. This is not BS. This is his problem and he needs to quickly fix it.



George W. Bush caused vets’ PTSD in the first place

RE: Easing stigma for vets--Former President calls for shift in approach to PTSD, dropping 'disorder' from name

"Sickened. Repulsed. Utterly disgusted. Close but not nearly strong enough descriptions of how I felt when I saw George W. Bush weighing in on the problems faced by veterans suffering with PTSD. He wants “disorder” dropped from the term to make these veterans more appealing to employers. He intones that veterans with post-traumatic stress are “people who got hurt defending our country and are now overcoming wounds.”

Seriously? Defending our country? How about being used as pawns and cannon fodder in his own sick game of “army men” that he, Cheney and Rumsfeld played with real people? He doesn’t really have any idea of what he did.

Recently he organized a bike ride with wounded veterans, most of whom had one or more artificial limbs. He consigned them to a life of pain and misery so he could proclaim himself a “war president” and Halliburton and Blackwater could make millions on the war he invented. Then he expects them to be grateful that he would ride bikes with them?

Paint some more dog portraits, George. At least no one gets hurt."

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