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1Crooked cops Empty Crooked cops 2/22/2014, 3:58 am

talknstang



So what I sent this reporter the information he needed to expose this BS?! THe cops were caught red-handed breaking the rules just so they can try to arrest men using adult websites and accuse them of soliciting minors when they are clearly not doing such. That's pretty pathetic in my book. Arrest the dirty cops

http://www.wtsp.com/news/topstories/article/354700/250/Law-enforcement-may-have-entrapped-sexual-predators

2Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/22/2014, 6:27 am

2seaoat



Creating crimes out of thin air is not the American way. Keep fighting the battle. True child abusers are not going to adult sites for hook ups. They prey on children. This is all about entrapment and the police state we have become. I heard on Bill Mahr that in 1970 there were 300k folks in prison, and today over 2 million.......a 700% INCREASE! We put more citizens in jail than any other nation on earth......it is time to shrink the criminal justice system and get common sense back into our system.

3Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/22/2014, 12:14 pm

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Law enforcement have to produce crimes to justify their budgets and that goes for all law enforcement agencies. They are now brutalizing women joggers and getting away with it , why ? Because they can. Our system is so far out of balance it may take a civil war to restore it.

4Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/22/2014, 12:33 pm

2seaoat



Our system is so far out of balance it may take a civil war to restore it.

Nope....just people with courage and common sense. Colorado and Washington State have had the courage, and it is spreading like wildfire across America. People are asking real questions. As I said earlier, you are seeing second chance statutes across America on personal drug use, and soon we will begin to see significant jail population drops, smaller criminal justice budgets, and general attitude adjustment.

5Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/22/2014, 12:39 pm

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

If you really think the DEA will just dissolve and go quietly away you are delusional. They are probably strategizing as I type how to bring more attention to themselves. Probably some kind of New WACO. Just as 911 was a false flag to change America at it's core these smaller cabals play the same game.

6Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/22/2014, 2:57 pm

talknstang



Thanks for the posts. We have a break down of the data in my article, but here are some of the latest numbers from 892 arrests in Florida:

• There are currently 7 deceased defendants (1.15% of 608 Disposed cases). Of those 7, 4 have been definitively confirmed as suicides, 1 was a heart attack, 1 died ‘unexpectedly’ and no other information has been found concerning the 7th. There were 9 deceased defendants but as it turns out two defendants had faked suicides, absconded and were later found again.

• There have been 47 (7.73%) trials which resulted in 38(6.25%) Guilty verdicts and 9(1.48%) Not Guilty verdicts. Interestingly one of the guilty verdicts was for carrying a concealed firearm without a license. That individual was acquitted of all sex offenses. Just in case you were wondering that works out to be 19.15% of cases that went to trial resulting in complete acquittal.

• 35(5.76%) cases were voluntarily dropped by the state and an additional 9(1.48%) were dismissed for cause such as a motion to dismiss. Additionally 1 case has been overturned on appeal resulting in another dismissal. There are also 3 cases where the defendant was found incompetent to stand trial. So far that totals up to 57(9.4%) of the cases disposed in which the state was unwilling or unable to obtain any conviction much less a conviction for a sex offense. There is one other case not counted here where a woman was arrested with her boyfriend. The state dropped all of her charges in return for testifying against her boyfriend

• Some ICAC task forces have gone so far as to claim nearly 100% of all those arrested had prior victims, possessed child pornography or both. Unfortunately Florida ICAC task forces cannot make that claim. Only 15(2.47%) have any evidence of prior victims whatsoever. That number includes defendants that were already RSO’s, had been investigated for a sex offense before regardless of outcome or evidence of prior victims was found during the investigation. Only 9(1.48%) were found to be in possession of child pornography. Of those 24 defendants only 1 has evidence of prior victims and possessed child pornography.

Although our data is specific to Florida, we are finding that illicit tactics are not limited to just the Sunshine State. The problem with Florida is that it stands out more than any other state in the number of stings being performed and when you crunch the numbers, it shows us that 97% of men were more than likely not predisposed to commit such crimes, 97%! My recent analysis also seems to be consistent with past research on the use of social networking sites in online sex crimes against minors  and that is adult sites like Craigslist do not pose a potential risk to children compared to sites that are more  teen oriented.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzLomEB8bi2PMWJfaHRxQk9GMEk/edit?pli=1

https://www.academia.edu/5496464/Florida_Sting_Operations_please_forward_link_to_everyone_and_sign_petition_

here's our DB that we put together from clerks of courts sites
www.ICACarrests.com

7Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/22/2014, 3:47 pm

talknstang



I am here to tell you, Florida is going to be in BIG trouble soon enough. There have been a rash of stings as of late.....it is out of control. They are violating due process in the worst ways just to get those arrest #'s increased. The latest manatee county sting is proof of that and you can just read about some of these things in this blog from an attorney I work with:

http://floridasexstinglawyer.com/

Also, I'm not sure if i posted it here, butif you were not aware or saw the WKRG news report, i'll post that link. I was sick, but there was no way i was missing out on an opportunity to speak out.
http://www.wkrg.com/story/24369062/sex-sting-backlash

8Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/22/2014, 3:59 pm

talknstang



2seaoat wrote: Our system is so far out of balance it may take a civil war to restore it.

Nope....just people with courage and common sense.   Colorado and Washington State have had the courage, and it is spreading like wildfire across America.  People are asking real questions.  As I said earlier, you are seeing second chance statutes across America on personal drug use, and soon we will begin to see significant jail population drops, smaller criminal justice budgets, and general attitude adjustment.

see, law enforcement never thought about the consequences of arresting innocent men.  You could feasibly have prison riots all over the place with prisoners feeling that they didn't get a fair shake either. It could be utter chaos....we just don't know yet, but we will find out. In the below link we have to 1st instance of the OAG, or any LEA, mentioning that ICAC affiliates MUST comply with Operational Standards. I believe that this was purposely done because the OAG is going to play stupid and act like they didn't know what was going on because the fingerpointing is going to begin soon. They do know what is going on, trust me on that one. In my opinion, a scandal like this could bring the DOJ to it's knees. It would discredit itself as a legitimate branch of the government. They have to cover it up, yet someone has to take the blame.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/02/16/Texas-AG-to-Target-Internet-Crimes-Against-Children

9Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/22/2014, 10:32 pm

Markle

Markle

The only way to catch the pedophiles preying on our children is to have sting operations.  Proven in virtually every study is the FACT that some caught for a crime, has done the same thing dozens of times before.

ANYONE convicted of endangering our children, automatic 25 years to life.  No parole and if they get out, probation, labeled a sex offender and wear an ankle monitor for another 25 years.

If that doesn't send a message, nothing will.  At least it will keep them off our streets.

10Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/23/2014, 11:23 pm

talknstang



Markle wrote:The only way to catch the pedophiles preying on our children is to have sting operations.  Proven in virtually every study is the FACT that some caught for a crime, has done the same thing dozens of times before.

ANYONE convicted of endangering our children, automatic 25 years to life.  No parole and if they get out, probation, labeled a sex offender and wear an ankle monitor for another 25 years.

If that doesn't send a message, nothing will.  At least it will keep them off our streets.

I agree with you Markle, catch the predators, but when LEO's create criminals and then lie to the public to make it appear that they've done such a great job, well that in itself is criminal and is about as un-American as it gets.

11Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/24/2014, 12:03 am

2seaoat



The only way to catch the pedophiles preying on our children is to have sting operations. Proven in virtually every study is the FACT that some caught for a crime, has done the same thing dozens of times before.

I disagree because sting operations in my experience will not catch the boy scout leader, church youth group leader, baseball, soccer, basketball coaches, teachers, bus drivers, and any other person who is around children. Children are abused by people they know. This entire sting concept is faulty based on the data......children are more likely to be abused by someone they know than a stranger.

I do agree that they will strike repeatedly. Therefore, we need intensive probation and in my opinion lifetime braclets on any child predator released from prison. These predators do not get cured, and almost all of them are released with insufficient supervision.

12Crooked cops Empty Re: Crooked cops 2/24/2014, 12:06 am

talknstang



i should have been more explicit with my response....sting operations are not the only way to catch predators. I agree with him to the point that real predators should be dealt with swiftly and perhaps with more severe punishments, but our government doesn't seem to know how to distinguish between those who are real predators anyway and that is part of the problem.

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