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Examples Of Troubling ‘Knockout’ Game Popping Up All Over

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2013/fall/Leaving-White-Nationalism

Derek Black

A ‘GRADUAL AWAKENING’
I’m writing this letter partly in response to the SPLC’s recent article discussing my [November 2012] message to fellow students and also out of a desire to articulate my thoughts. I have decided to write now after thinking about the implications extensively, and I am requesting that this letter be published and available to the public in full… .

A few months ago, the SPLC wrote an exposé about a letter of mine only intended for fellow students. I was not ready for it to go public. A large section of the community I grew up in believes strongly in white nationalism, and members of my family whom I respect greatly, particularly my father, have long been resolute advocates for that cause. From a young age I observed my dad sacrifice dearly for his commitment — a conviction stemming from nowhere else than ardent resolve in the rightness of the cause. I was not prepared to risk driving any wedge in those relationships and I did not believe that was necessary. The number of changes in my beliefs during the past few years, however, has amounted to a shift that I think needs to be addressed. When the SPLC exposed a letter meant only to discourage misconceptions about me among fellow students, I was not prepared then to remark more. I commented and labeled myself as someone who still believed in white nationalism. After a great deal of thought since then, I have resolved that it is in the best interests of everyone involved, directly or indirectly, to be honest about my slow but steady disaffiliation from white nationalism.

Over the past few years, I have been disentangling myself from white nationalism. While the radio show I founded ended in January of 2013, over the course of the prior year I only appeared rarely and typically only when emergency required that someone fill in for the other hosts. I haven’t posted on Stormfront in 2013, and I only posted once in all of 2012 — then to give a report on my dad’s media appearance. I am closing my Stormfront account. Also, in the last article written about me, the SPLC reported that I attended a “European American Leadership Seminar” in 2012, when in fact I did not. And while I did speak at last year’s Stormfront conference, I am not involved this year at all and will not be attending.

I acknowledge that things I have said as well as my actions have been harmful to people of color, people of Jewish descent, activists striving for opportunity and fairness for all, and others affected. It was not my intention then, and I will not contribute to any cause that perpetuates this harm in the future. Advocating for redress of the supposed oppression of whites in the West is by its nature damaging to all others because of the privileged position of white people in these societies. Promoting a victim complex for whites does not recognize the oppressed experiences of others not in the position of a white person in society, and that’s what my efforts have done. For those to whom the white nationalist perspective is alien, I think it’s worth summarizing here:

White nationalism supports the premise that multiculturalism is a failure, and that politicians trapped in a multicultural status quo are oppressing white people in “their own country.” They typically blame the West’s movement toward inclusion on a conspiracy of Jewish power to promote multiculturalism at the expense of whites. White nationalists cite black-on-white crime statistics and the increasing prevalence of “nonwhite” cultures and values in western society, as well as the growing number of legal protections and employment opportunities that a “minority” status now affords. On the other hand, white nationalists consider white people in the US to be ostensibly the victims of an ongoing genocide brought about by immigration and miscegenation, and feel that when they try to speak up about it, they are subjected to a vicious double standard. They observe that Black Nationalism and Zionism are recognized as tolerable, but whites with a similar declaration are vilified as racists. When they attempt to claim an accomplishment or cultural production for the white race that produced it, they are called racists. If they produced their own Malcolm X, the nation as a whole would regurgitate. Thus their own white leaders are victimizing white people — the system has turned its formidable weapons against a white identity. Therefore they think that whites must oppose resistance to racism in order to guarantee the future of white people as a people.

I now consider this belief system principally flawed. Most arguments that racial equity programs disadvantage whites who would otherwise be hired or accepted to academic programs mask underlying anxieties about the growth of non-white social status. It is impossible to argue rationally that in our society, with its overwhelming disparity between white power and that of everyone else, racial equity programs intended to affect the deep-rooted situation represent oppression of whites. More importantly, white nationalism’s staunch opposition to the gains in numbers and in influence of non-whites makes it a movement by nature committed to suppressing these people. The advancement of minorities in the US is not insignificant, but has not ended (let alone reversed) their circumstances. Particularly bizarre to me is the determination of Jewish social domination. Though there are plenty of powerful Jewish activist groups pursuing their chosen agendas, it is inaccurate and outrageous to talk about people of Jewish descent as “the enemy” of anyone, as it is essentializing a large group into a fairy tale antagonist. It has become clear to me that white nationalism is not a movement of positive identity or of asserting cultural values, but of constant antagonism at the betterment of other groups.

A white nationalist party can’t function without standing on these disparities between whites and other groups and essentially endorsing them. To say that white people have let the “minority agenda” go too far implies that the relatively insufficient gains they have made are oppressing us. There is no way to advocate for white nationalism but by arguing that minorities pose a threat to our supremacy. It is not enough to say it is opposition to assimilation when the proposed recourse is to expel, suppress, or marginalize these other groups. Advocating for white nationalism means that we are opposed to minority attempts to elevate themselves to a position equal to our own. It is an advocacy that I cannot support, having grown past my bubble, talked to the people I affected, read more widely, and realized the necessary impact my actions had on people I never wanted to harm.

I believe that a healthy sense of identity and belonging are necessary, and I think being proud of where you came from is important regardless of race or class. I do not believe advocacy against “oppression of whites” exists in any form but an entrenched desire to preserve white power at the expense of others. I am sorry for the damage done by my actions and my past endorsement of white nationalism.

I realize not all will instantly believe me, or may perceive this as a seemingly abrupt change when it has been instead a gradual awakening process. I understand that my words don’t suddenly heal all wounds caused by my actions or my encouragement of others. Time, however, will demonstrate my full lack of involvement. To white nationalists, I have remarked that most people face a huge hurdle before they embrace an unpopular opinion, referring to those unwilling to risk being called racist for what I had believed was a just cause. Now I look at it from a new vantage point: I should be the one who calls out what I disagree with. I can’t support a movement that tells me I can’t be a friend to whomever I wish or that other people’s races require me to think about them in a certain way or be suspicious at their advancements. One revelation for me was when I grasped I would be much more likely to help an individual through our legal system towards citizenship than to work towards his or her expulsion. Minorities must have the ability to rise to positions of power, and many supposed “race” issues are in fact issues of structural oppression, poor educational prospects, and limited opportunity. The differences I thought I observed didn’t go nearly as deeply as I imagined. I believe we can move beyond the sort of mind-boggling emphasis white nationalism puts on maintaining an oppressive, exclusive sense of identity — oppressive for others and stifling for our society.

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2seaoat



we need to eradicate thug culture.

Finally, a little bit of honesty. Of course thuggery does not exist in Britain, or France, or among white youth......black culture and its symbols must be eradicated because it is a threat to america. Again, the concepts are easy and hard to hide. The politics even easier to identify. Racism is alive and well in America.

There have been thugs throughout history. They have no racial base as a qualifier. When a statistically insignificant almost non existent problem is bootstrapped to a policy to eradicate a culture........we have history repeating itself. The problem is simple. People who commit crimes need to be arrested and prosecuted. You can take care of that black bitch, and eradicate a culture on your dime, but most reasonable middle class Americans realize the virulent strain of racism is alive and well and daily demonstrations of the same are shown on this forum for all to steer clear and shine light on hate and fear.

Guest


Guest

OMG! now a HUGE copy and paste. Shocked 

now let me try and figure out where FT is going since she didn't say. its the guessing game lol

so FT, what your saying is this motha fuckin country now be run by the balcks and they gonna kicks our asses right? and wez deserve it..

yeah, I got it Rolling Eyes 

2seaoat



so FT, what your saying is this motha fuckin country now be run by the balcks and they gonna kicks our asses right? and wez deserve it..

I love your candor Chrissy. You say what others are thinking.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

http://www.progressive.org/james-baldwin-america-paradox-of-race

Examples Of Troubling ‘Knockout’ Game Popping Up All Over - Page 3 Baldwin

"Fifty years ago this month, African American essayist and novelist James Baldwin published “A Letter to My Nephew” in the pages of The Progressive magazine.

The following year, the piece would be packaged and published as the first of two essays under the title The Fire Next Time, which endures as one of the most important pieces of social commentary to come out of the 1960s.

Writing in The Progressive amidst the upheavals of the civil rights revolution and against the backdrop of centennial celebrations of the Emancipation Proclamation, Baldwin gazed upon the racial topography of early-1960s America and saw not a dreamscape of possibility, but a sobering and ongoing nightmare. “You know, and I know,” Baldwin wrote, “that the country is celebrating one hundred years of freedom one hundred years too soon.” Although the insurgencies of Baldwin’s time would bring about the most sweeping victories for racial democracy since Emancipation and Reconstruction, looking out from Harlem, Baldwin understood the sharp proscriptions and limitations of those victories. The evidence was everywhere: in the ghettos to which Blacks were relegated and where it was “intended that [they] should perish”; in broad social insinuations of African American worthlessness; in white presumptions to define Black people’s place in society..."

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Guest

AGAIN FT, whats your point?

are you saying these people deserve to have their heads bashed in randomly on the street?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:Yesterday, HLN showed multiple videos of the " Knock out" game. The assailants, noted by the guest attorney, stated they were all black youths. It was discussed that black youths were engaging in this type of activity across the country.

Pure and simple hysteria utilized by racist to justify their positions.   Statistically, this is a battery.   It is the unjustified touching of another without their consent.  I think we could even elevate it to aggravated battery because of the force being applied.   If you take the aggravated battery cases in the United States last year the stats would probably about 1 in 1000, and I would suspect more like 1 in 10,000.   So why would this hysteria be used?   I also do not think these attacks should be swept under the rug.  They should be identified and addressed, but in context.

From 1993 to 2008, among homicides reported to the FBI for which the victim-offender relationship was known, between 21% and 27% of homicides were committed by strangers and between 73% and 79% were committed by offenders known to the victims.http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4557

So, right off the bat this white fright as folks have the highest ownership of guns and live in gated communities, and post about wilding black youths, the probability of that person being a victim of crime, is such that it will be someone you know.  You are more likely to be struck by lightening than be attacked by a group of young blacks playing the knockout game.

So why on this forum does this subject continually get posted.......I have already addressed this issue with one poster.

Pure and simple hysteria utilized by racist to justify their positions.  

Thank you for the definition of battery. As far as racist hysteria...take it up with HLN. HLN reported and debated the subject , on air yesterday.

2seaoat



Thank you for the definition of battery. As far as racist hysteria...take it up with HLN. HLN reported and debated the subject , on air yesterday.


Sorry, this is about the 20th thread on the subject in the last 5 years on the PNJ and here. Certain racist posters make it a habit to have one of these threads about once a week in some form or another. The knockout game, the Milwaukee fairgrounds, etc. are always going to be introduced and discussed out of context and for the distinct purpose which Chrissy has so perfectly described the fearful's desire......to eradicate a culture. Equality and freedom for alternative cultures has never been accepted and some on this forum are clever not to say out loud what Chrissy says, but their intent and beliefs are clear.

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Guest

2seaoat wrote:so FT, what your saying is this motha fuckin country now be run by the balcks and they gonna kicks our asses right? and wez deserve it..

I love your candor Chrissy.  You say what others are thinking.
That's why im on a forum.

btw..... why didn't you show the facts that violent crime has skyrocketed?

according to the site you used it has gone up 17% just in 2010-11

the overall victimization rate for violent
crime increased 17%, from 19.3 to 22.5 victimizations
per 1,000 persons age 12 or older. The increase in
aggravated and simple assault accounted for all of the
increase in total violence

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv11.pdf

This isn't about whity frighty. this is about wtf is wrong with people. theres a problem here, don't try and EXCUSE IT AWAY.

There is NO EXCUSE.

Sal

Sal

Nekochan wrote:Why does the sex with a dog story get posted?  Because it's shocking and disgusting.  Seeing people being violently knocked down while walking down the sidewalk is shocking and disgusting. 

These animal sex stories seem to involve sick white men molesting the animals.  I don't recall seeing a picture of a black guy arrested for sex with animals.   It seems to be a sick white man crime.  I don't think all white men like to have sex with dogs, but for the dogs who are victims....they just might be wary of white men.
You're dangerously close to being on to something here.

Start asking questions like, "What is it about old white man culture that causes them to wantonly fuck dogs across the nation?", and you might have a revelation.

Maybe.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Chrissy wrote:OMG! now a HUGE copy and paste. Shocked 

now let me try and figure out where FT is going since she didn't say. its the guessing game lol

so FT, what your saying is this motha fuckin country now be run by the balcks and they gonna kicks our asses right? and wez deserve it..

yeah, I got it Rolling Eyes 
No, you don't "get it". You posted what is essentially a racist thread. Go ahead; tell me I'm wrong. You're so concerned about this "black on white" crime. What about the reverse? Is that OK? Was Trayvon Martin just another black thug who deserved to be exterminated...after all, he WAS black...yep, probably just another punk, like all the rest of the young black men in this country...all punks...probably up to no good...eradication is the only remedy.

What I posted is the statement of a former white supremacist who has had a change of heart, at least according to him. What he said should make you think...but I guess that's asking too much.

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why has crime increased so much in such a short period of time seaoat?

The rate of violent victimization increased 17%,
from 19.3 victimizations per 1,000 persons age 12 or
older in 2010 to 22.5 in 2011.
„„ There was no statistically significant change in the
rate of serious violent victimization from 2010 to
2011.
„„ A 22% increase in the number of assaults accounted
for all of the increase in violent crime.
„„ No measurable change was detected in the rate of
intimate partner violence from 2010 to 2011.
„„ Increases in the rates of violent victimizations for
whites, Hispanics, younger persons, and males
accounted for the majority of the increase in violent
crime.

„„ Residents in urban areas continued to experience
the highest rates of total and serious violence.
„„ The rate of property crime increased 11%, from 125.4
per 1,000 households in 2010 to 138.7 in 2011.
„„ From 2010 to 2011, household burglary increased
14% from 25.8 to 29.4 per 1,000 households

do you not find 17 or 22% significant for a population? that's a LOT.

why would we just excuse away that these kids think its just ok to whack someones brains out walking down the street with no apparent motive other than race or FUN?

what gives?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Chrissy wrote:AGAIN FT, whats your point?

are you saying these people deserve to have their heads bashed in randomly on the street?
No...I'm saying I'D LIKE TO KICK YOUR ASS FOR BEING STUPID.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

They better knock me out the first punch or I will stand my ground till one of us is dead.

Guest


Guest

Floridatexan wrote:
Chrissy wrote:OMG! now a HUGE copy and paste. Shocked 

now let me try and figure out where FT is going since she didn't say. its the guessing game lol

so FT, what your saying is this motha fuckin country now be run by the balcks and they gonna kicks our asses right? and wez deserve it..

yeah, I got it Rolling Eyes 
No, you don't "get it".  You posted what is essentially a racist thread.  Go ahead; tell me I'm wrong.  You're so concerned about this "black on white" crime.  What about the reverse?  Is that OK?  Was Trayvon Martin just another black thug who deserved to be exterminated...after all, he WAS black...yep, probably just another punk, like all the rest of the young black men in this country...all punks...probably up to no good...eradication is the only remedy.  

What I posted is the statement of a former white supremacist who has had a change of heart, at least according to him.  What he said should make you think...but I guess that's asking too much.

LOL youre a fucking idiot. this isn't a racist thread. this is a god damn problem that needs to be taken serious. when kids start walking down the street and bashing peoples heads in you don't get to just make up a excuse for it then call the person who points it out a racist. you can, but it doenst make it true.

I don't care about what white racist or black racist think. all I care about is why in the hell are these kids doing this. there is obvious a problem in our culture/society.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Chrissy wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Chrissy wrote:OMG! now a HUGE copy and paste. Shocked 

now let me try and figure out where FT is going since she didn't say. its the guessing game lol

so FT, what your saying is this motha fuckin country now be run by the balcks and they gonna kicks our asses right? and wez deserve it..

yeah, I got it Rolling Eyes 
No, you don't "get it".  You posted what is essentially a racist thread.  Go ahead; tell me I'm wrong.  You're so concerned about this "black on white" crime.  What about the reverse?  Is that OK?  Was Trayvon Martin just another black thug who deserved to be exterminated...after all, he WAS black...yep, probably just another punk, like all the rest of the young black men in this country...all punks...probably up to no good...eradication is the only remedy.  

What I posted is the statement of a former white supremacist who has had a change of heart, at least according to him.  What he said should make you think...but I guess that's asking too much.

LOL youre a fucking idiot. this isn't a racist thread. this is a god damn problem that needs to be taken serious. when kids start walking down the street and bashing peoples heads in you don't get to just make up a excuse for it then call the person who points it out a racist. you can, but it doenst make it true.

I don't care about what white racist or black racist think. all I care about is why in the hell are these kids doing this. there is obvious a problem in our culture/society.


cheers 

Sal

Sal

Joanimaroni wrote:...take it up with HLN. HLN reported and debated the subject , on air yesterday.
Look up "yellow journalism" and report back what you've learned.

White fright is a big seller on cable news ...

... as are hoverounds.

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:...take it up with HLN. HLN reported and debated the subject , on air yesterday.
Look up "yellow journalism" and report back what you've learned.

White fright is a big seller on cable news ...

... as are hoverounds.
so what youre saying sal is this isn't a problem?

we should just ignore it?



Sal

Sal

Chrissy wrote:
Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:...take it up with HLN. HLN reported and debated the subject , on air yesterday.
Look up "yellow journalism" and report back what you've learned.

White fright is a big seller on cable news ...

... as are hoverounds.
so what youre saying sal is this isn't a problem?

we should just ignore it?



It's a local crime story inflated to hysterical proportions through sensationalistic yellow journalism.

And, you're just one of the suckers who lap it up.

Now, tell us what it is about old white man culture that is causing them to wantonly rape our beloved household pets across the nation.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:...take it up with HLN. HLN reported and debated the subject , on air yesterday.
Look up "yellow journalism" and report back what you've learned.

White fright is a big seller on cable news ...

... as are hoverounds.
So reporting on a violent situation across the nation is sensationalism and dipicts news in an unprofessional and unethical light?

If a local newspaper warns of purse snatching crimes at a particular mall, would you consider that yellow journalism or current events?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Floridatexan wrote:
Chrissy wrote:AGAIN FT, whats your point?

are you saying these people deserve to have their heads bashed in randomly on the street?
No...I'm saying I'D LIKE TO KICK YOUR ASS FOR BEING STUPID.
Nice role model for your grandchildren.

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:...take it up with HLN. HLN reported and debated the subject , on air yesterday.
Look up "yellow journalism" and report back what you've learned.

White fright is a big seller on cable news ...

... as are hoverounds.
so what youre saying sal is this isn't a problem?

we should just ignore it?



It's a local crime story inflated to hysterical proportions through sensationalistic yellow journalism.

And, you're just one of the suckers who lap it up.

Now, tell us what it is about old white man culture that is causing them to wantonly rape our beloved household pets across the nation.
its NOT local. And youre accusing CNN of yellow journalism lol


Sal

Sal

Joanimaroni wrote:

If a local newspaper warns of purse snatching crimes at a particular mall, would you consider that yellow journalism or current events?
Now, we're getting somewhere.

A local newspaper reports on localized crime.

When a local crime gets conflated into a national trend and a commentary on the culture of an entire and specific race of people, then you have yellow journalism.

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:

If a local newspaper warns of purse snatching crimes at a particular mall, would you consider that yellow journalism or current events?
Now, we're getting somewhere.

A local newspaper reports on localized crime.

When a local crime gets conflated into a national trend and a commentary on the culture of an entire and specific race of people, then you have yellow journalism.
its NOT local. pay attention. its going on in several states.

Sal

Sal

Chrissy wrote:
Sal wrote:
Chrissy wrote:
Sal wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:...take it up with HLN. HLN reported and debated the subject , on air yesterday.
Look up "yellow journalism" and report back what you've learned.

White fright is a big seller on cable news ...

... as are hoverounds.
so what youre saying sal is this isn't a problem?

we should just ignore it?



It's a local crime story inflated to hysterical proportions through sensationalistic yellow journalism.

And, you're just one of the suckers who lap it up.

Now, tell us what it is about old white man culture that is causing them to wantonly rape our beloved household pets across the nation.
its NOT local. And youre accusing CNN of yellow journalism lol


"It could happen to you, anyone walking down the street."

lmao

Yes Chrissy, that's yellow journalism.

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