White House FINALLY Admits that President Barack Hussein Obama LIED. All of you are too stupid to know what insurance you need!

PkrBum wrote:Lol... Only in libo-bizarro-world is it romneys fault that obama was "deceitful, inaccurate, misleading". Cmon...

knothead wrote:That is an extremely lame attempt to explain the 'silence' from the Romney camp by not making a single utterance that what Obama was saying was, in fact, a lie . . . . if Romney actually knew Obama was being deceitful, inaccurate and/or misleading he would have pounced without question.  He did not; therefore, Obama did not know his statements were literally untrue and that fact alone supports my view that that does not constitute LYING and you gush so much about.  

Inaccurate? Absolutely.
Lying? Not at all.

Nekochan wrote:I think you're in denial, Sal.  Democrats up for reelection are plenty worried.

knothead wrote:How would he know whether Obama was lying or just clueless?

I did watch the video neko and thank you for posting it.  What Governor Romney said regarding up to 20,000,000 Americans will lose their insurance was, as you and joani pointed out, is true.  What is omitted, meaning it is a half truth, is those policies will be replaced with policies that meet the minimum standards required under the ACA.  Mr. Romney is a polished speaker and again, you pointed out he did not call the President a LIAR.  If you are fair here you must concede that if he believed that it would have improved his standing in the polls by calling him a liar he would have done so.  Some in his party had no objection to doing that since one of their members actually called him a liar during a State of the Union address, remember that?  In your own words in bold above should apply to both Obama and Romney shouldn't they? I am not defending the many mistakes made with the roll out of this law and I have said repeatedly if it is, in fact, a bad law it will collapse of its own weight but not because it is the subject/target of demagoguery. If you think I am being a loony lefty so be it but that is not accurate.  What is accurate is I believe calling out POTUS a liar is an extreme position absent clear and convincing evidence that he consciously was aware it to be accurate.  Therefore, like Romney, and in your words, Obama was either lying or clueless and it is clueless which I can live with.  Same with Romney btw.  Again thank you for the link I appreciate it.  

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:I think you're in denial, Sal.  Democrats up for reelection are plenty worried.

How many times are you going to hit yourself in the face with that dead cat before you smell it?

Sal wrote:Over 50,000 previously uninsured Arkansans were just added to expanded Medicaid.

When this thing gets up and running that will be happening across the country.

How many of those suddenly insured people do you suppose are inbred white hicks who listen to Rush Limbaugh?

I'm guessing quite a few.

That's what has the Repukes really scared.

knothead wrote:How would he know whether Obama was lying or just clueless?

I did watch the video neko and thank you for posting it.  What Governor Romney said regarding up to 20,000,000 Americans will lose their insurance was, as you and joani pointed out, is true.  What is omitted, meaning it is a half truth, is those policies will be replaced with policies that meet the minimum standards required under the ACA.  Mr. Romney is a polished speaker and again, you pointed out he did not call the President a LIAR.  If you are fair here you must concede that if he believed that it would have improved his standing in the polls by calling him a liar he would have done so.  Some in his party had no objection to doing that since one of their members actually called him a liar during a State of the Union address, remember that?  In your own words in bold above should apply to both Obama and Romney shouldn't they? I am not defending the many mistakes made with the roll out of this law and I have said repeatedly if it is, in fact, a bad law it will collapse of its own weight but not because it is the subject/target of demagoguery. If you think I am being a loony lefty so be it but that is not accurate.  What is accurate is I believe calling out POTUS a liar is an extreme position absent clear and convincing evidence that he consciously was aware it to be accurate.  Therefore, like Romney, and in your words, Obama was either lying or clueless and it is clueless which I can live with.  Same with Romney btw.  Again thank you for the link I appreciate it.  

ppaca wrote:I don't think Obama knew what he was saying, remember no one including him read the legislation. He believed what he was told, signed it and turned it over to HHS, I believe that is where it all went wrong and the interpretation's and final ruling's on each page. But ultimately it is his fault, I know he didn't have time to read it but his adviser's should have picked it a part before he signed it.


As far as keeping your doctor that certainly does depend on which state you are living in and the health insurer's setting up new plans with different networks. I guess by us not having state exchange's we of Florida will be better off as far as networks. BC network in the panhandle for the PPO is exactly the same as it was before. In Florida same plans on or off exchange for most company's, that are on exchange. It's the new HMO's that have limited networks and really are not that much cheaper than a PPO plan.