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Pensacola Discussion Forum » General Discussion » I just got in a dispute with someone about who owns The Pensacola Interstate Fair, Inc. Do you know the particulars on it?

I just got in a dispute with someone about who owns The Pensacola Interstate Fair, Inc. Do you know the particulars on it?

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

All I can determine is...

1. It's a privately held corporation

2. These are the officers and directors of the corporation...

https://www.pensacolafair.com/members/

So who exactly owns shares in the corporation? And who takes home the profits?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Bob wrote:All I can determine is...

1.  It's a privately held corporation

2.  These are the officers and directors of the corporation...

https://www.pensacolafair.com/members/

So who exactly owns shares in the corporation?  And who takes home the profits?


Well Bob, several years ago I was looking up the salaries for various sheriff officers. One Captain while taking vacation time worked the fair ( worked means standing inside the fair talking to 4 to 6 other deputies) He made $13,000 dollars overtime. So, I would say cops profit.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Joanimaroni wrote:

Well Bob, several years ago I was looking up the salaries for various sheriff officers. One Captain while taking vacation time worked the fair ( worked means standing inside the fair talking to 4 to 6 other deputies) He made $13,000 dollars overtime. So, I would say  cops profit.
How does a cop make $13k in overtime for only ten day's work (even if he is a captain)?
And since you call it "overtime", I'm assuming all that money is paid by the taxpayers (Sheriff's Dept) rather than any of it coming from the fair corporation. Is that true?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I found this but I can't make any sense of all this financial mumbo jumbo except to see that it's tax-exempt, it has revenues of a little over $1 million, and it's officers and directors are compensated with 20% of that amount.

[url= http://www.faqs.org/tax-exempt/FL/Pensacola-Interstate-Fair-Inc.html] http://www.faqs.org/tax-exempt/FL/Pensacola-Interstate-Fair-Inc.html[/url]

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Bob wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:

Well Bob, several years ago I was looking up the salaries for various sheriff officers. One Captain while taking vacation time worked the fair ( worked means standing inside the fair talking to 4 to 6 other deputies) He made $13,000 dollars overtime. So, I would say  cops profit.
How does a cop make $13k in overtime for only ten day's work (even if he is a captain)?
And since you call it "overtime",  I'm assuming all that money is paid by the taxpayers (Sheriff's Dept) rather than any of it coming from the fair corporation.  Is that true?
Bob I remember looking it up when Ronny Mac was ending his reign. The amount was listed in his budget with the Capt. name......I know the Capt and that is why I remembered.. His annual salary was just under $ 95,000, the county paid his vacation pay and his fair duty pay. I assume the fair would reimburse the money for his duty.


I remember it was listed as overtime pay.

Guest


Guest

Bob wrote:All I can determine is...

1.  It's a privately held corporation

2.  These are the officers and directors of the corporation...

https://www.pensacolafair.com/members/

So who exactly owns shares in the corporation?  And who takes home the profits?

I think the FAIR is a worse scam than any casino.

Guest


Guest

Joanimaroni wrote:
Bob wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:

Well Bob, several years ago I was looking up the salaries for various sheriff officers. One Captain while taking vacation time worked the fair ( worked means standing inside the fair talking to 4 to 6 other deputies) He made $13,000 dollars overtime. So, I would say  cops profit.
How does a cop make $13k in overtime for only ten day's work (even if he is a captain)?
And since you call it "overtime",  I'm assuming all that money is paid by the taxpayers (Sheriff's Dept) rather than any of it coming from the fair corporation.  Is that true?
Bob I remember looking it up when Ronny Mac was ending his reign. The amount was listed in his budget with the Capt. name......I know the Capt and that is why I remembered.. His annual salary was just under $ 95,000, the county paid his vacation pay and his fair duty pay. I assume the fair would reimburse the money for his duty.


I remember it was listed as overtime pay.
Cops call that SIGNAL 15 money and when cops are working in an official capacity beyond their normal workday, but employed by others, the county SO is reimbursed for the money paid out. The same with the cops you see parked outside of churches when it's time to let out or working elsewhere on an off duty status

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:All I can determine is...

1.  It's a privately held corporation

2.  These are the officers and directors of the corporation...

https://www.pensacolafair.com/members/

So who exactly owns shares in the corporation?  And who takes home the profits?

Who cares?

Every corporation has officers and directors. Could be one person in all positions or 100. Could be one shareholder or 1,000.

2seaoat



Then in 1942, the Fair was reorganized as a non-profit organization. Its charter was locally incorporated by the board of county commissioners and verified by County Judge Fabasinski. The Fair was not incorporated through the State of Florida.

Very strange.....Bob you are raising a good question. I have never in my life heard of a local corporation being incorporated by a County. There might be something in the state statutes which enables Counties to incorporate a fair organization, but this is unusual.

Guest


Guest

In 1935, John E. Frenkel Sr. was the City Clerk for the City of Pensacola and the City permitting agent. At the request of Mr. Whittie Weis of Royal American Shows, he began the Pensacola Interstate Fair. The Royal American, a railroad carnival that moved from location to location by rail, was the largest carnival in the United States.

Originally, the Kiwanis Club was scheduled to put on the first fair but canceled at the last moment. Mr. Weis, knowing that Mr. Frenkel had some experience in promotion and an exceptionally good relationship with many good citizens of Pensacola and Escambia County, asked him to assemble a group of citizens who would be interested in putting on the first Mardi Gras and other local events. He also started the first radio station in Pensacola, WCOA (Wonderful City Of Advantages). Because of his expertise in promoting this venture, he was well-equipped with the knowledge to take on the fair.

The first Fair (1935) was held at Cervantes Street and Pace Boulevard. From there it moved to the corner of Garden Street and Pace Boulevard. In 1940, the Fair purchased its first permanent location on Pottery Plant Road, later known as Fairfield Drive.

Then in 1942, the Fair was reorganized as a non-profit organization. Its charter was locally incorporated by the board of county commissioners and verified by County Judge Fabasinski. The Fair was not incorporated through the State of Florida
The Fair progressed for over 20 years at the Fairfield Drive location until that property was sold for a local development. In 1968, the Fair purchased the piece of property on Highway 90 (6655 Mobile Highway). The fairgound was built from the ground up and the first Fair was held at this location in 1969. The Fair now owns over 170 acres of land at that site.

John E. Frenkel Jr. joined the Fair in July of 1963 as Assistant General Manager, Secretary, and Treasurer. He helped develop the Fair as the years passed and became the General Manager, Secretary, and Treasurer in 1975. During those years he also served as City Councilman from 1967 through 1977 and County Commissioner from 1978 through 1982.

The Fair began with John E. Frenkel Sr., his wife Lillian, and 30 fair members. Over the years, it has become one of the finest and largest fairs in the United States with a staff of eight and more than 400 volunteers. Many volunteers are local clubs and individuals who serve to showcase a wonderful array of exhibits in six permanent, climate-controlled, exhibit buildings.

There is nothing like a Fair. It brings to Pensacola a stimulating, satisfying, stirring and sparkling celebration of education, entertainment and information. The Pensacola Interstate Fair receives praise locally and throughout the country. We are eminently proud to be a part of the economy and growth of Pensacola year after year…and proud to say, “The Fair is Good For Pensacola.”

The members of the Pensacola Interstate Fair wish to extend their sincere and lasting appreciation to all those people and organizations who have contributed so much, labored so hard, and and shown their interest year after year. The result is the Fair’s present status and position: firmly established as a part of Pensacola’s community life and business
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John E. Frenkel Sr and the boys have had this shit sewed up for years.  The most important man at the ESCD is the guy who controls the jobs at the fair. that is basically how Ronnie MacK became sheriff.  He is "THE MAN"  piss him off and you dont work the fair.  free tickets, good Pay and do much of nothing. I worked for the ECSD  I gar-ron-tee you that is how it is.

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Guest

2seaoat wrote:Then in 1942, the Fair was reorganized as a non-profit organization. Its charter was locally incorporated by the board of county commissioners and verified by County Judge Fabasinski. The Fair was not incorporated through the State of Florida.

Very strange.....Bob you are raising a good question.  I have never in my life heard of a local corporation being incorporated by a County.  There might be something in the state statutes which enables Counties to incorporate a fair organization, but this is unusual.

Timing was everything.  Remember what had happened on  December 7, 1941?  People were busy.  Push a local fair issue on the folks very easily.  BTW  They have more attendance in 10 days that the Wahoos do in 70 LOL    Pensacola Interstate Fair - Pensacola, FL October 18 - October 28, 2012 - Attendance: 405,000* - Reithoffer Shows

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