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Obama Shouldn't Negotiate with Extortionists

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/19644-focus-obama-shouldnt-negotiate-with-extortionists

As a child I was bullied by bigger boys who threatened to beat me up if I didn't give them what they wanted. But every time I gave in to their demands their subsequent demands grew larger. First they wanted the change in my pocket. Next it was the dessert in my lunchbox. Then my new Davy Crockett cap. Then the softball and bat I got for my birthday.

Finally I stopped giving in. When the bullies began roughing me up on the playground some older boys came to my rescue and threatened my tormenters with black eyes if they ever touched me again. That ended their extortion racket.

What's happening in Washington these days may seem far removed from my boyhood memories, but Washington is really just another children's playground. Its current bullies are right-wing Republicans, now threatening that if they don't get their way they'll close down the government and cause the nation to default on its debts.

"The American people don't want a government shutdown, and they don't want Obamacare," House Republican leaders said in a statement over the weekend. "We will do our job and send this bill over, and then it's up to the Senate to pass it and stop a government showdown."

Really? The American people don't want Obamacare as much as I didn't want my softball and bat.

Okay, maybe not quite as much. But the only settled way we know what the American people want is through the democratic process. And the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) is the law of the land. A majority of the House and Senate voted for it, the President signed it into law, its constitutionality has been upheld by the Supreme Court, and a majority of Americans reelected the President after an election battle in which the Affordable Care Act was a central issue.

Moreover, we don't repeal laws in this country by holding hostage the entire government of the United States.

The bullies are a faction inside the Republican Party - extremists who are threatening more reasonable Republicans with primary challenges if they don't go along.

And where are the Tea Party extremists getting their dough? From even bigger bullies - a handful of hugely wealthy Americans who are sinking hundreds of millions of dollars into this extortion racket.

They include David and Charles Koch (and their front group, "Americans for Prosperity'); Peter Thiel, leverage-buyout specialist John Childs, investor Howie Rich, Stephen Jackson of the Stevens Group, and executives of JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs, (all behind the "Club for Growth"); and Crow Holdings' Harlan Crow, shipping magnate Richard Uihlein, and investment banker Foster Friess; executives of MetLife and Philip Morris, and foundations controlled by the Scaife family (all bankrolling "FreedomWorks.")

Their game plan is to not just to take over the Republican Party. It's to take over America. The showdown over the budget and the debt ceiling is a prelude to 2016, when they plan to run Texas Senator Ted Cruz for President. (Cruz, if you haven't noticed, is busily establishing his creds as the biggest flamer in Washington - orchestrating not only the current extortion but also the purge of reasonable Republicans from the GOP.)

Obama and the Democrats must not give in. They shouldn't even negotiate with extortionists. As I learned the hard way, giving in to bullies just encourages them to escalate their demands.

The President began negotiations with the Republican bullies in 2011 when they first threatened to default on the nation's debt if they didn't get the spending cuts they wanted. He negotiated again at the end of 2012 when they threatened to go over the fiscal cliff and take the rest of the nation with them if they didn't get the budget they wanted. Now they want to repeal a law they detest. If we give in again, what's next? A coup d'etat?

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VectorMan

VectorMan

Floridatexan wrote:
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/19644-focus-obama-shouldnt-negotiate-with-extortionists

As a child I was bullied by bigger boys who threatened to beat me up if I didn't give them what they wanted. But every time I gave in to their demands their subsequent demands grew larger. First they wanted the change in my pocket. Next it was the dessert in my lunchbox. Then my new Davy Crockett cap. Then the softball and bat I got for my birthday.

Finally I stopped giving in. When the bullies began roughing me up on the playground some older boys came to my rescue and threatened my tormenters with black eyes if they ever touched me again. That ended their extortion racket.

What's happening in Washington these days may seem far removed from my boyhood memories, but Washington is really just another children's playground. Its current bullies are right-wing Republicans, now threatening that if they don't get their way they'll close down the government and cause the nation to default on its debts.

"The American people don't want a government shutdown, and they don't want Obamacare," House Republican leaders said in a statement over the weekend. "We will do our job and send this bill over, and then it's up to the Senate to pass it and stop a government showdown."

Really? The American people don't want Obamacare as much as I didn't want my softball and bat.

Okay, maybe not quite as much. But the only settled way we know what the American people want is through the democratic process. And the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) is the law of the land. A majority of the House and Senate voted for it, the President signed it into law, its constitutionality has been upheld by the Supreme Court, and a majority of Americans reelected the President after an election battle in which the Affordable Care Act was a central issue.

Moreover, we don't repeal laws in this country by holding hostage the entire government of the United States.

The bullies are a faction inside the Republican Party - extremists who are threatening more reasonable Republicans with primary challenges if they don't go along.

And where are the Tea Party extremists getting their dough? From even bigger bullies - a handful of hugely wealthy Americans who are sinking hundreds of millions of dollars into this extortion racket.

They include David and Charles Koch (and their front group, "Americans for Prosperity'); Peter Thiel, leverage-buyout specialist John Childs, investor Howie Rich, Stephen Jackson of the Stevens Group, and executives of JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs, (all behind the "Club for Growth"); and Crow Holdings' Harlan Crow, shipping magnate Richard Uihlein, and investment banker Foster Friess; executives of MetLife and Philip Morris, and foundations controlled by the Scaife family (all bankrolling "FreedomWorks.")

Their game plan is to not just to take over the Republican Party. It's to take over America. The showdown over the budget and the debt ceiling is a prelude to 2016, when they plan to run Texas Senator Ted Cruz for President. (Cruz, if you haven't noticed, is busily establishing his creds as the biggest flamer in Washington - orchestrating not only the current extortion but also the purge of reasonable Republicans from the GOP.)

Obama and the Democrats must not give in. They shouldn't even negotiate with extortionists. As I learned the hard way, giving in to bullies just encourages them to escalate their demands.

The President began negotiations with the Republican bullies in 2011 when they first threatened to default on the nation's debt if they didn't get the spending cuts they wanted. He negotiated again at the end of 2012 when they threatened to go over the fiscal cliff and take the rest of the nation with them if they didn't get the budget they wanted. Now they want to repeal a law they detest. If we give in again, what's next? A coup d'etat?

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You are completely, totally, unrecoverably pathetic.

But, you go girl. LOL

Nekochan

Nekochan

LOL, at least FT is consistent!

Guest


Guest

FT likes dictatorships. They never negotiate with the other side Rolling Eyes 

Sal

Sal

The Democrats have already made a huge concession.

They agreed to sequestration funding levels.

That is clearly not on their agenda.

The Repukes are the only hostage takers.

Guest


Guest

Yes, I see the repugs are trying to negotiate? LOL! They will lose as usual. Obamacare is here to stay.

Guest


Guest

http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/employer-mandate-delayed-by-paperwork-and-efforts-to-reduce-it/?_r=0

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

The time for negotiation has long passed. As Professor Reich pointed out, the PPACA is now the law of the land. The GOP didn't want to change the existing system, or they would have offered something other than the old, tired "health savings accounts", or found some way at the time to augment and/or improve the legislation as written. Instead they stonewalled, just as they have done repeatedly on just about every piece of legislation or appointment Obama has brought forward.

Dr. Reich talks about moderate Republicans. I can't think of any that serve in Congress...anyone want to name a moderate Republican? Or describe something in the Republican platform that might even be in the realm of moderate? I honestly don't think it can be done.

knothead

knothead

You said it all FT and it is precisely the way it is and so true!
Good Post!

Guest


Guest

Employer mandate delay? Ok

Individual mandate delay? Deal breaker.

Welcome to bizarro world.

knothead

knothead

PkrBum wrote:Employer mandate delay? Ok

Individual mandate delay? Deal breaker.

Welcome to bizarro world.

pkr, I do not disagree that the rationale behind the delay is weird as well as the exemptions for Congress and their staff. If I knew it would not change my fundamental opinion on the need for this reform although it will travel a long and rough road before the nation, as a whole, embraces it but in the end it is good for our country.

Guest


Guest

knothead wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Employer mandate delay? Ok

Individual mandate delay? Deal breaker.

Welcome to bizarro world.
pkr, I do not disagree that the rationale behind the delay is weird as well as the exemptions for Congress and their staff.  If I knew it would not change my fundamental opinion on the need for this reform although it will travel a long and rough road before the nation, as a whole, embraces it but in the end it is good for our country.
Do you have any examples to say its good for the country or just odumbasses word for it?

Guest


Guest

Where's that social justice shit we keep hearing about? Does that get suspended when your team's on the field?

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:Employer mandate delay? Ok

Individual mandate delay? Deal breaker.

Welcome to bizarro world.
Rollouts of programs of this dimensions always produce unexpected delays and bumps in the road.

The only people who expected a smooth rollout possess the naïveté of a Ayn Rand reader.

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Employer mandate delay? Ok

Individual mandate delay? Deal breaker.

Welcome to bizarro world.
Rollouts of programs of this dimensions always produce unexpected delays and bumps in the road.

The only people who expected a smooth rollout possess the naïveté of a Ayn Rand reader.
I think you just plagiarized obama. I've read much more leftist literature than conservative... rand isn't a good read.

Do you agree that corporations should get a delay... but private citizens should not? Simple question salinski.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:

Do you agree that corporations should get a delay... but private citizens should not? Simple question salinski.
Let's get this straight now, John Galt.

I've never been a fan of Obamacare.

I'm a proponent of single payer.

That having been said, it's an improvement over the status quo.

Now, ... to answer your question in a word ...

... yes ...

... it's a matter of implementation.

I'm sure you're all for trading chickens for chemotherapy.

Guest


Guest

So much for that social justice thingy... eh comrade? It apparently only applies as a negotiation/campaign tactic after all. It's out the window when you have the power to force your edicts and mandates. You are intellectually dishonest.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:So much for that social justice thingy... eh comrade? It apparently only applies as a negotiation/campaign tactic after all. It's out the window when you have the power to force your edicts and mandates. You are intellectually dishonest.
Yes, ...

... come eat with us at the collective, ...

... there will be beans and potatoes, and maybe some meat substitute for all, ...

... or maybe, private healthcare ...

... same thing ...

... intellectually dishonest, indeed ...


lmao

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:So much for that social justice thingy... eh comrade? It apparently only applies as a negotiation/campaign tactic after all. It's out the window when you have the power to force your edicts and mandates. You are intellectually dishonest.
Yes, ...

... come eat with us at the collective, ...

... there will be beans and potatoes, and maybe some meat substitute for all, ...

... or maybe, private healthcare ...

... same thing ...

... intellectually dishonest, indeed ...


lmao
The new and improved "Peace, Land, Bread"... but wait... now with HEALTHCARE..!! Get in line now comrade..!!

While it lasts.

VectorMan

VectorMan

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:So much for that social justice thingy... eh comrade? It apparently only applies as a negotiation/campaign tactic after all. It's out the window when you have the power to force your edicts and mandates. You are intellectually dishonest.
Yes, ...

... come eat with us at the collective, ...

... there will be beans and potatoes, and maybe some meat substitute for all, ...

... or maybe, private healthcare ...

... same thing ...

... intellectually dishonest, indeed ...


lmao
Do you believe anyone thinks of you as just another fake motherfucker?

Just askin............


Is there something else Tipp O'neil should have done? LOL

Guest


Guest

Floridatexan wrote:
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/19644-focus-obama-shouldnt-negotiate-with-extortionists

As a child I was bullied by bigger boys who threatened to beat me up if I didn't give them what they wanted. But every time I gave in to their demands their subsequent demands grew larger. First they wanted the change in my pocket. Next it was the dessert in my lunchbox. Then my new Davy Crockett cap. Then the softball and bat I got for my birthday.

Finally I stopped giving in. When the bullies began roughing me up on the playground some older boys came to my rescue and threatened my tormenters with black eyes if they ever touched me again. That ended their extortion racket.

What's happening in Washington these days may seem far removed from my boyhood memories, but Washington is really just another children's playground. Its current bullies are right-wing Republicans, now threatening that if they don't get their way they'll close down the government and cause the nation to default on its debts.

"The American people don't want a government shutdown, and they don't want Obamacare," House Republican leaders said in a statement over the weekend. "We will do our job and send this bill over, and then it's up to the Senate to pass it and stop a government showdown."

Really? The American people don't want Obamacare as much as I didn't want my softball and bat.

Okay, maybe not quite as much. But the only settled way we know what the American people want is through the democratic process. And the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) is the law of the land. A majority of the House and Senate voted for it, the President signed it into law, its constitutionality has been upheld by the Supreme Court, and a majority of Americans reelected the President after an election battle in which the Affordable Care Act was a central issue.

Moreover, we don't repeal laws in this country by holding hostage the entire government of the United States.

The bullies are a faction inside the Republican Party - extremists who are threatening more reasonable Republicans with primary challenges if they don't go along.

And where are the Tea Party extremists getting their dough? From even bigger bullies - a handful of hugely wealthy Americans who are sinking hundreds of millions of dollars into this extortion racket.

They include David and Charles Koch (and their front group, "Americans for Prosperity'); Peter Thiel, leverage-buyout specialist John Childs, investor Howie Rich, Stephen Jackson of the Stevens Group, and executives of JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs, (all behind the "Club for Growth"); and Crow Holdings' Harlan Crow, shipping magnate Richard Uihlein, and investment banker Foster Friess; executives of MetLife and Philip Morris, and foundations controlled by the Scaife family (all bankrolling "FreedomWorks.")

Their game plan is to not just to take over the Republican Party. It's to take over America. The showdown over the budget and the debt ceiling is a prelude to 2016, when they plan to run Texas Senator Ted Cruz for President. (Cruz, if you haven't noticed, is busily establishing his creds as the biggest flamer in Washington - orchestrating not only the current extortion but also the purge of reasonable Republicans from the GOP.)

Obama and the Democrats must not give in. They shouldn't even negotiate with extortionists. As I learned the hard way, giving in to bullies just encourages them to escalate their demands.

The President began negotiations with the Republican bullies in 2011 when they first threatened to default on the nation's debt if they didn't get the spending cuts they wanted. He negotiated again at the end of 2012 when they threatened to go over the fiscal cliff and take the rest of the nation with them if they didn't get the budget they wanted. Now they want to repeal a law they detest. If we give in again, what's next? A coup d'etat?

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The entire law itself is extortion.

Guest


Guest

PkrBum wrote:So much for that social justice thingy... eh comrade? It apparently only applies as a negotiation/campaign tactic after all. It's out the window when you have the power to force your edicts and mandates. You are intellectually dishonest.
LOL don't forget Comrade that "some animals are more equal than others".

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/19644-focus-obama-shouldnt-negotiate-with-extortionists

[...]

Now they want to repeal a law they detest. If we give in again, what's next? A coup d'etat?

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WOW...A far left Progressive site...posting a shot at Republicans by a far left individual Robert Reich.

What Mr. Reich fails to mention is that the majority of VOTERS never wanted the law and the majority of voters want it REPEALED. So Mr. Reich must be referring to the...VOTERS. Voters who know it is unaffordable, unworkable and a major boondoggle.

What is the cra* about giving in AGAIN. President Barack Hussein Obama much prefers to negotiate with our ENEMIES that with fellow AMERICANS.

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Markle

Markle

PkrBum wrote:Where's that social justice shit we keep hearing about? Does that get suspended when your team's on the field?
Social justice is just another Progressive code phrase for Socialism. Their meaning of social justice is that everyone gets exactly the same regardless of how hard they work. Well, except for the elite leaders. Since they have the responsibility to dictate what is best for all the ignorant peons working beneath them.

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:So much for that social justice thingy... eh comrade? It apparently only applies as a negotiation/campaign tactic after all. It's out the window when you have the power to force your edicts and mandates. You are intellectually dishonest.
Yes, ...

... come eat with us at the collective, ...

... there will be beans and potatoes, and maybe some meat substitute for all, ...

... or maybe, private healthcare ...

... same thing ...

... intellectually dishonest, indeed ...


lmao
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What makes your glorious health care law ethical if it doesn't apply equally to all?

It would seem that what you're really saying is that it's a collective but some will have to sit at the back of the bus or eat in the back room, because they don't wear the right underarm deodorant. Especially if someone disagrees with your mentality and/or agenda.

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