How bad must a product be before consumption by children is prohibited?

Hamburger chef Jamie Oliver has won his long-fought battle against one of the largest fast food chains in the world – McDonalds. After Oliver showed how McDonald’s hamburgers are made, the franchise finally announced that it will change its recipe, and yet there was barely a peep about this in the mainstream, corporate media.

Oliver repeatedly explained to the public, over several years – in documentaries, television shows and interviews – that the fatty parts of beef are “washed” in ammonium hydroxide and used in the filling of the burger. Before this process, according to the presenter, the food is deemed unfit for human consumption. According to the chef and hamburger enthusiast, Jamie Oliver, who has undertaken a war against the fast food industry, “Basically, we’re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”

Besides the low quality of the meat, the ammonium hydroxide is harmful to health. Oliver famously coined this the “the pink slime process.”

“Why would any sensible human being put meat filled with ammonia in the mouths of their children?” Oliver asked.

boards of FL wrote:I know I know.  "The government has no right to come between me and whatever crap I feed my child!"

http://politicalblindspot.org/hamburger-chef-jamie-oliver-proves-mcdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/

Hamburger chef Jamie Oliver has won his long-fought battle against one of the largest fast food chains in the world – McDonalds. After Oliver showed how McDonald’s hamburgers are made, the franchise finally announced that it will change its recipe, and yet there was barely a peep about this in the mainstream, corporate media.

Oliver repeatedly explained to the public, over several years – in documentaries, television shows and interviews – that the fatty parts of beef are “washed” in ammonium hydroxide and used in the filling of the burger. Before this process, according to the presenter, the food is deemed unfit for human consumption. According to the chef and hamburger enthusiast, Jamie Oliver, who has undertaken a war against the fast food industry, “Basically, we’re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”

Besides the low quality of the meat, the ammonium hydroxide is harmful to health. Oliver famously coined this the “the pink slime process.”

“Why would any sensible human being put meat filled with ammonia in the mouths of their children?” Oliver asked.

Should it even be legal for a parent to serve a food to a child - someone without the mental capacity to weigh the long term consequences of what they consume - that in its early stages isn't even fit for human consumption?  

Can we start putting cigarettes in happy meals?

Nekochan wrote:Has the USDA named this process (“washed” in ammonium hydroxide) as safe?  Do other companies/products use this process?  

Why pick on McDonalds?  Just ban all processed foods!

Joanimaroni wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Has the USDA named this process (“washed” in ammonium hydroxide) as safe?  Do other companies/products use this process?  

Why pick on McDonalds?  Just ban all processed foods!

 Yikes....we need to ban beer, malts, and distilled spirits containing more than 15% alcohol. They contain ammonium.

Boards stop indulging in alcoholic beverages!

Joanimaroni wrote:Boards stop indulging in alcoholic beverages!

2seaoat wrote:T's fantasy..............

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You go ahead and give your loved ones placebos.......do not let the science get in the way of your superstition and paranoia.

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Boards stop indulging in alcoholic beverages!

I possess the mental capacity to weigh the long term consequences of consuming alcohol.  The target market for happy meals does not.

Joanimaroni wrote:Isn't that what parents are for?

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Isn't that what parents are for?

Fair enough then.  So parents should be able to serve harmful foods to children?  That is your stance?

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:Isn't that what parents are for?

Fair enough then.  So parents should be able to serve harmful foods to children?  That is your stance?

Sal wrote:True story ...

I knew a boy who as a toddler, when he became too rambunctious, his mother would mix a shot of bourbon in with his formula, so he'd get sleepy.

Is that OK?

Nekochan wrote:If a parent serves ice cream to their child as the main course for breakfast, lunch and dinner....do you want to ban ice cream parlors?

A McDonald's hamburger, once in a while, is not going to harm a child.  Neither is an ice cream cone.  

Just about anything, including water, can be harmful if too much is consumed.

Joanimaroni wrote:Parents are suppose to possess the mental capacity to weigh the long term consequences of consuming too many Happy Meals.

boards of FL wrote:

Nekochan wrote:If a parent serves ice cream to their child as the main course for breakfast, lunch and dinner....do you want to ban ice cream parlors?

A McDonald's hamburger, once in a while, is not going to harm a child.  Neither is an ice cream cone.  

Just about anything, including water, can be harmful if too much is consumed.

And in a perfect world, parents would be of sound mind and would recognize McDonald's to be serving food that for the most part is not fit for human consumption.  They would eliminate or, at least reduce their trips to McDonald's.  Children would be healthy and there would be no obesity epidemic.




Hell, a little dog food every now and then isn't going to kill a kid. I can't help but cringe seeing an adult rationalize feeding shit to a child due the reasoning that "Well, it won't kill them if you only give it to them every now and then."  Is that really where society should set the legal limit on what an adult can give a kid?  Are our standards really that low?

Joanimaroni wrote: Didn't you say your parents bought you Happy Meals? Were there standards that low?

Joanimaroni wrote:Boards in order to prevent obesity in the picture you posted....you need to realize it was not McDonald's that caused the situation......100% of the blame lies with the irresponsible parent.

Joanimaroni wrote:Do you think it is ok?  Should the government ban  bourbon?

boards of FL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote: Didn't you say your parents bought you Happy Meals? Were there standards that low?

We didn't know then what we know now; hence this thread.  Now that we know that McDonald's uses meat that is not fit for human consumption, and basically puts it through an ammonia wash and re-purposes it so that it just meets minimum standards to be consumed by human beings...now that we know this, shouldn't we take the next logical step and say only adults can consume this crap?  At the very least, shouldn't we prohibit the marketing of this waste to children via happy meals?

Joanimaroni wrote:
Do you think it is ok?  Should the government ban  bourbon?