http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-5-2013/ballotproof
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Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-5-2013/ballotproof
PACEDOG#1 wrote:totally stupid...
IDs to vote is commonsense, but that's never been a forte of the Democratic party.
1.TO BUY BEER.
2.TO BUY DRAINO.
3.TO BUY SUDAFED.
4.TO BUY CIGARETTES.
5.TO GET ON A PLANE.
6.TO GET INTO MOST LARGE OFFICE BUILDINGS IN NYC.
7.To use a Visa card for large purchases.
8.To get into Warner Bros., Sony Entertainment, and Universal Pictures.
9.To acquire a Visa to travel outside the country, and to re-enter the country at the border.
10.Open a bank account.
11.Cash a check at a bank.
12.Drive a car.
13.Tour a house for sale.
14.buy a gun
15.or ammunition,
16.walk into Costco
17.or Bjs,
18.return a item to a retail store,
19.oh yea I need to show it to register to vote
Floridatexan wrote:
Every voter is registered by the Supervisor of Elections. There's no reason to impose any other restrictions on voters, except if the goal is to disenfranchise them. One lady in NC said, although she had voted in every election her entire adult life, she was born in a small town at home and had no birth certificate. Many seniors don't drive and have no need for a driver's license. The requirement that they get a state ID is an undue and harsh burden for some and amounts to a poll tax on those who want to continue voting as they've always done. And the ONLY reason to purge voter rolls or stiffen voting requirements is the GOP, a failing and irrelevant party whose only recourse at this stage is to CHEAT.
Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-5-2013/ballotproof
Floridatexan wrote:
Every voter is registered by the Supervisor of Elections. There's no reason to impose any other restrictions on voters, except if the goal is to disenfranchise them. One lady in NC said, although she had voted in every election her entire adult life, she was born in a small town at home and had no birth certificate. Many seniors don't drive and have no need for a driver's license. The requirement that they get a state ID is an undue and harsh burden for some and amounts to a poll tax on those who want to continue voting as they've always done. And the ONLY reason to purge voter rolls or stiffen voting requirements is the GOP, a failing and irrelevant party whose only recourse at this stage is to CHEAT.
knothead wrote:The noose is slowly tightening around the neck of the GOP whether it be voter purges, immigration, women's right of choice, a fairer tax code are only some of the issues that will eventually choke the life out of these current GOPers and it is my hope I live to see them come back to a moderate old fashioned Ike era party.
Floridatexan wrote:
Every voter is registered by the Supervisor of Elections. There's no reason to impose any other restrictions on voters, except if the goal is to disenfranchise them. One lady in NC said, although she had voted in every election her entire adult life, she was born in a small town at home and had no birth certificate. Many seniors don't drive and have no need for a driver's license. The requirement that they get a state ID is an undue and harsh burden for some and amounts to a poll tax on those who want to continue voting as they've always done. And the ONLY reason to purge voter rolls or stiffen voting requirements is the GOP, a failing and irrelevant party whose only recourse at this stage is to CHEAT.
Joanimaroni wrote:Floridatexan wrote:
Every voter is registered by the Supervisor of Elections. There's no reason to impose any other restrictions on voters, except if the goal is to disenfranchise them. One lady in NC said, although she had voted in every election her entire adult life, she was born in a small town at home and had no birth certificate. Many seniors don't drive and have no need for a driver's license. The requirement that they get a state ID is an undue and harsh burden for some and amounts to a poll tax on those who want to continue voting as they've always done. And the ONLY reason to purge voter rolls or stiffen voting requirements is the GOP, a failing and irrelevant party whose only recourse at this stage is to CHEAT.
Do you show ID to vote?
PACEDOG#1 wrote:knothead wrote:The noose is slowly tightening around the neck of the GOP whether it be voter purges, immigration, women's right of choice, a fairer tax code are only some of the issues that will eventually choke the life out of these current GOPers and it is my hope I live to see them come back to a moderate old fashioned Ike era party.
IDs have been required since I started voting in 1981. There were ID requirements before that time as well. How is a poll worker to know who you are or even if you are registered to vote unless you show ID? What do you think a voter ID card is for? WTH?
Floridatexan wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:knothead wrote:The noose is slowly tightening around the neck of the GOP whether it be voter purges, immigration, women's right of choice, a fairer tax code are only some of the issues that will eventually choke the life out of these current GOPers and it is my hope I live to see them come back to a moderate old fashioned Ike era party.
IDs have been required since I started voting in 1981. There were ID requirements before that time as well. How is a poll worker to know who you are or even if you are registered to vote unless you show ID? What do you think a voter ID card is for? WTH?
A voter card should be plenty of ID, because it indicates that a person has registered with the local supervisor of elections. The signature on the card should match the signature on the voter rolls. That's how it was always done.
PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Picture ID is better. Anyone can roll up with a card and pretend it is them.
Sal wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Picture ID is better. Anyone can roll up with a card and pretend it is them.
A solution in search of a problem, ...
... unless the problem is too many black people voting, ...
... then, you're on to something.
Sal wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Picture ID is better. Anyone can roll up with a card and pretend it is them.
A solution in search of a problem, ...
... unless the problem is too many black people voting, ...
... then, you're on to something.
Which might be a valid argument, except that the incidences of actual voter fraud are almost nil. This is nothing more than the new Jim Crow...designed to nullify voter rights and give advantage to an increasingly irrelevant political party that shamelessly devotes all time and energy to serving the needs of the corporate state and the MIC, to the detriment of the vast majority of our citizens.PACEDOG#1 wrote:Picture ID is better. Anyone can roll up with a card and pretend it is them. And unless you have a calligraphy expert at every poll watching every old person voter booth worker, it's suspect to fraud. PIC ID IS WAY TO GO. Take a couple bucks out of their welfare checks to pay for the ID.Floridatexan wrote:A voter card should be plenty of ID, because it indicates that a person has registered with the local supervisor of elections. The signature on the card should match the signature on the voter rolls. That's how it was always done.PACEDOG#1 wrote:IDs have been required since I started voting in 1981. There were ID requirements before that time as well. How is a poll worker to know who you are or even if you are registered to vote unless you show ID? What do you think a voter ID card is for? WTH?knothead wrote:The noose is slowly tightening around the neck of the GOP whether it be voter purges, immigration, women's right of choice, a fairer tax code are only some of the issues that will eventually choke the life out of these current GOPers and it is my hope I live to see them come back to a moderate old fashioned Ike era party.
You're lying.PACEDOG#1 wrote:Tossing out the race card because you have no other argument? The problem and documented on Youtube is that democrats of all colors voted more than once and in different states. One vote one PIC ID.Sal wrote:A solution in search of a problem, ...PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Picture ID is better. Anyone can roll up with a card and pretend it is them.
... unless the problem is too many black people voting, ...
... then, you're on to something.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/11/cincinnati-poll-worker-charged-with-voting-half-dozen-times-in-november/Floridatexan wrote:You're lying.PACEDOG#1 wrote:Tossing out the race card because you have no other argument? The problem and documented on Youtube is that democrats of all colors voted more than once and in different states. One vote one PIC ID.Sal wrote:A solution in search of a problem, ...PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Picture ID is better. Anyone can roll up with a card and pretend it is them.
... unless the problem is too many black people voting, ...
... then, you're on to something.
How convenient of you to ignore what said.Floridatexan wrote:Which might be a valid argument, except that the incidences of actual voter fraud are almost nil. This is nothing more than the new Jim Crow...designed to nullify voter rights and give advantage to an increasingly irrelevant political party that shamelessly devotes all time and energy to serving the needs of the corporate state and the MIC, to the detriment of the vast majority of our citizens.PACEDOG#1 wrote:Picture ID is better. Anyone can roll up with a card and pretend it is them. And unless you have a calligraphy expert at every poll watching every old person voter booth worker, it's suspect to fraud. PIC ID IS WAY TO GO. Take a couple bucks out of their welfare checks to pay for the ID.Floridatexan wrote:A voter card should be plenty of ID, because it indicates that a person has registered with the local supervisor of elections. The signature on the card should match the signature on the voter rolls. That's how it was always done.PACEDOG#1 wrote:IDs have been required since I started voting in 1981. There were ID requirements before that time as well. How is a poll worker to know who you are or even if you are registered to vote unless you show ID? What do you think a voter ID card is for? WTH?knothead wrote:The noose is slowly tightening around the neck of the GOP whether it be voter purges, immigration, women's right of choice, a fairer tax code are only some of the issues that will eventually choke the life out of these current GOPers and it is my hope I live to see them come back to a moderate old fashioned Ike era party.
********************************************************. wrote:How convenient of you to ignore what said.Floridatexan wrote:Which might be a valid argument, except that the incidences of actual voter fraud are almost nil. This is nothing more than the new Jim Crow...designed to nullify voter rights and give advantage to an increasingly irrelevant political party that shamelessly devotes all time and energy to serving the needs of the corporate state and the MIC, to the detriment of the vast majority of our citizens.PACEDOG#1 wrote:Picture ID is better. Anyone can roll up with a card and pretend it is them. And unless you have a calligraphy expert at every poll watching every old person voter booth worker, it's suspect to fraud. PIC ID IS WAY TO GO. Take a couple bucks out of their welfare checks to pay for the ID.Floridatexan wrote:A voter card should be plenty of ID, because it indicates that a person has registered with the local supervisor of elections. The signature on the card should match the signature on the voter rolls. That's how it was always done.PACEDOG#1 wrote:IDs have been required since I started voting in 1981. There were ID requirements before that time as well. How is a poll worker to know who you are or even if you are registered to vote unless you show ID? What do you think a voter ID card is for? WTH?knothead wrote:The noose is slowly tightening around the neck of the GOP whether it be voter purges, immigration, women's right of choice, a fairer tax code are only some of the issues that will eventually choke the life out of these current GOPers and it is my hope I live to see them come back to a moderate old fashioned Ike era party.
how is using a picture ID against poor blacks?
many poor blacks are on welfare and YOU HVE TO HVE ID to be ON WELFARE/FOOD STAMPS.
and also there are MORE POOR WHITES in this country than poor blacks by numbers. so who again is being discriminated against?
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