Joe Biden: Supreme Court was wrong; Al Gore was elected president of the United States

Nekochan wrote:Actually, the votes had already been counted...twice.  

Nekochan wrote:Some people seem to forget that in the first count in Florida--Bush won.  Because it was a close vote, by law there was an automatic recount in Florida.  Again, Bush won.  So in fact, all the votes were counted twice and in both cases, Bush won.  But it was very, very close.  So at that point, the Gore people wanted to cherry pick only certain counties to have  hand recounts.  There were many problems with this including the fact that there was no uniform manner of counting the votes.  One county was counting votes one way, another was counting them differently.  This was a large part of what the Supreme Court ruled--that if there is going to be a hand recount, the ballots have to be treated the same way and counted the same way with the same standards, across the State.

newswatcher wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Actually, the votes had already been counted...twice.  

09:30:51

    And some were defining the 'intention' of the voter...hanging chads etc.,...Gore lost and that was a correct decision...And now it's even more scary that Gore was that close as vice president and then almost president...although his legacy of the internet is appreciated...

Nekochan wrote:Some people seem to forget that in the first count in Florida--Bush won.  Because it was a close vote, by law there was an automatic recount in Florida.  Again, Bush won.  So in fact, all the votes were counted twice and in both cases, Bush won.  But it was very, very close.  So at that point, the Gore people wanted to cherry pick only certain counties to have  hand recounts.  There were many problems with this including the fact that there was no uniform manner of counting the votes.  One county was counting votes one way, another was counting them differently.  This was a large part of what the Supreme Court ruled--that if there is going to be a hand recount, the ballots have to be treated the same way and counted the same way with the same standards, across the State.

Floridatexan wrote:http://www.michaelparenti.org/stolenelections.html

In one of the closest contests in U.S. history, the 2000 presidential election between Democratic Vice-President Al Gore and Republican governor of Texas George W. Bush (hereafter referred to as Bush Jr. to distinguish him from his father who was also a president), the final outcome hinged on how the vote went in Florida. Independent investigations in that state revealed serious irregularities directed mostly against ethnic minorities and low-income residents who usually voted heavily Democratic. Some 36,000 newly registered voters were turned away because their names had never been added to the voter rolls by Florida’s secretary of state Kathleen Harris. By virtue of the office she held, Harris presided over the state’s election process while herself being an active member of the Bush Jr. state-wide campaign committee. Other voters were turned away because they were declared--almost always incorrectly--“convicted felons.” In several Democratic precincts, state officials closed the polls early, leaving lines of would-be voters stranded.
Under orders from Governor Jeb Bush (Bush Jr.’s brother), state troopers near polling sites delayed people for hours while searching their cars. Some precincts required two photo IDs which many citizens do not have. The requirement under Florida law was only one photo ID. Passed just before the election, this law itself posed a special difficulty for low-income or elderly voters who did not have drivers licenses or other photo IDs. Uncounted ballot boxes went missing or were found in unexplained places or were never collected from certain African-American precincts. During the recount, GOP agitators shipped in from Washington D.C. by the Republican national leadership stormed the Dale County Canvassing Board, punched and kicked one of the officials, shouted and banged on their office doors, and generally created a climate of intimidation that caused the board to abandon its recount and accept the dubious pro-Bush tally.¹
Then a five-to-four conservative majority on the U.S. Supreme Court in a logically tortured decision ruled that a complete recount in Florida would be a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment’s equal protection clause because different counties have different ways of counting the votes. At that point Gore was behind by only a few hundred or so votes in Florida and was gaining ground with each attempt at a recount. By preventing a complete tally, the justices handed Florida’s electoral votes and the presidency to Bush, a stolen election in which the conservative activists on the Supreme Court played a key role.
Even though Bush Jr. lost the nation’s popular vote to Gore by over half a million, he won the electoral college and the presidency itself. Florida was not the only problem. Similar abuses and mistreatment of voters and votes occurred in other parts of the country. A study by computer scientists and social scientists estimated that four to six million votes were left uncounted in the 2000 election.<sup>2   .............................."


(continued...2004, etc....referenced footnoted)</sup>

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Some people seem to forget that in the first count in Florida--Bush won.  Because it was a close vote, by law there was an automatic recount in Florida.  Again, Bush won.  So in fact, all the votes were counted twice and in both cases, Bush won.  But it was very, very close.  So at that point, the Gore people wanted to cherry pick only certain counties to have  hand recounts.  There were many problems with this including the fact that there was no uniform manner of counting the votes.  One county was counting votes one way, another was counting them differently.  This was a large part of what the Supreme Court ruled--that if there is going to be a hand recount, the ballots have to be treated the same way and counted the same way with the same standards, across the State.

Yeah!

Why can't you stupid libtards just accept that Dubya was legitimately (after hundreds of thousands of ballots went missing from Democratic-leaning districts in the deciding state where his brother was governor and the person tasked with finding and recounting those ballots was the head of his campaign in that state, until it was all stopped by SCOTUS, six of whom were appointed by his father or his father's boss) elected???!!!

Get over it, already.

Markle wrote:

Sal wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Some people seem to forget that in the first count in Florida--Bush won.  Because it was a close vote, by law there was an automatic recount in Florida.  Again, Bush won.  So in fact, all the votes were counted twice and in both cases, Bush won.  But it was very, very close.  So at that point, the Gore people wanted to cherry pick only certain counties to have  hand recounts.  There were many problems with this including the fact that there was no uniform manner of counting the votes.  One county was counting votes one way, another was counting them differently.  This was a large part of what the Supreme Court ruled--that if there is going to be a hand recount, the ballots have to be treated the same way and counted the same way with the same standards, across the State.

Yeah!

Why can't you stupid libtards just accept that Dubya was legitimately (after hundreds of thousands of ballots went missing from Democratic-leaning districts in the deciding state where his brother was governor and the person tasked with finding and recounting those ballots was the head of his campaign in that state, until it was all stopped by SCOTUS, six of whom were appointed by his father or his father's boss) elected???!!!

Get over it, already.

PLEASE Sal, step is and show a RELIABLE site, you know, other than the DailyKOS or MediaMatters saying that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VOTES WENT MISSING.

I find it interesting that Progressives depend on the word of Vice President Joe Biden, one of the least qualified VP's in our history.

He also failed to mention that had Al "Snake Oil" Gore had won his HOME STATE Florida would never have been an issue.

ACORN was dissolved because of voter registration fraud and voter fraud along with their fraud with banks.  Funny he didn't mention that too.

Nor did he mention this...from a LEFT WING SOURCE....




USA Today



5/15/2001




 

George W. Bush would have won a hand count of Florida's disputed ballots if the standard advocated by Al Gore had been used, the first full study of the ballots reveals. Bush would have won by 1,665 votes — more than triple his official 537-vote margin — if every dimple, hanging chad and mark on the ballots had been counted as votes, a USA TODAY/Miami Herald/Knight Ridder study shows. The study is the first comprehensive review of the 61,195 "undervote" ballots that were at the center of Florida's disputed presidential election.

 

http://tinyurl.com/2k3gv

Get over it Progressives, President George Walker Bush WON FAIR AND SQUARE.

I realize the purpose of this is to detract attention for the building number of massive scandals swirling around President Barack Hussein Obama.


     So Sal and his 'sources' are all whackjobs?......

knothead wrote:This is a waste of our time because it is history but if one believe that Boy George won 'fair and square' then you must not recognize the deployed strategy of limiting Democratic voters by closing voting precincts with voters still present and requiring two id's is very very similar to the mindset of the past election where the Republicans limited early voting as just one example.  Americans, Democrats, Republicans, Independents are capable of accepting what is viewed as a fair election process but the Bush/Gore election was an example of political massaging and done so in the open with all to see.  It's amazing to me that we did not experience riots and insurrection after such an embarrassment to our nation.

Nekochan wrote:Hundreds of thousands. 

knothead wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Hundreds of thousands. 

Neko, each and every time this old and tired subject comes up those on the right assert a fair process was followed but if you are one who also believes that how are you able to disconnect yourself from what actually happened? It's a matter of historical record and really cannot be defended on a factual basis other than to claim that information comes from biased sources.  So, go toward the light . . . . Boy George and the Florida Republican machine stole that election and the nation has suffered mightily since.

Bob wrote:The election was a virtual tie.  They had to pick one or the other assholes for a reason.
They knew that if they let it play out for months that we wouldn't have a president and we would have all found out that it didn't make any difference that we didn't have a president.  They couldn't let the people know that would happen because it would have been like pulling back the curtain on the wizard of oz and seeing nothing was back there.

PkrBum wrote:I say it's irrelevant... I see no distinct differences between the parties or their results... just small insignificant social trigger points.

Nekochan wrote:

knothead wrote:

Nekochan wrote:Hundreds of thousands. 

Neko, each and every time this old and tired subject comes up those on the right assert a fair process was followed but if you are one who also believes that how are you able to disconnect yourself from what actually happened? It's a matter of historical record and really cannot be defended on a factual basis other than to claim that information comes from biased sources.  So, go toward the light . . . . Boy George and the Florida Republican machine stole that election and the nation has suffered mightily since.

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I do not see a credible source for this claim.   If you believe the loony websites that FT presents, then maybe you believe that Bush Sr. killed Kennedy, too. 
If I called Obama "Boy Obama" or "Boy Barack" I'd be called a racist by at least a couple of members here.

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Neko, my reference to the 2nd Bush as Boy George is splendidly appropriate for such a character . . . . . I despised him then and I despise him today.  He did the bidding of Cheney/Rumsfield and the entire Oval office crowd and what is so sad is he didn't win it fair and square . . . . . . he stole the election! What did Gore do? He was man enough to not put the country through more angst but showed he has a pair for the sake of the country.

There will always be an asterisk beside this man's name.